Stratocaster vs. Telecaster

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I'm smitten with these Rivolta Combinata line guitars that are obvs inspired by Ric but not direct copies. If the inlays didn't go from edge to edge on the fretboard (which seems a little much), they'd be an absolutely perfect match with my tastes.

https://i.imgur.com/GtWLiXz.jpg

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 10 April 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

ugh yes that inlay is awful

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 April 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

So bad. Rest looks cool. Do we have a general gear show n tell and want list thread?

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Saturday, 10 April 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

that is a good idea

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 April 2021 20:55 (three years ago) link

I Make Music has a couple of threads where folks have shared their stuff.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 10 April 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

(also that Rickenbacker bass is $1900 and I just received a credit card that's 0% interest for the first year and $300 back after I spend x dollars and it's real tempting to make a poor life choice)

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 10 April 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link

DO IT

Jurassic parkour (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 10 April 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

this has been on Craigslist, Melody Maker with what looks to be Gretsch Filter'tron type pickups, would love to get this and put a Bigsby on it

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 April 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

yeah that’s dying for a bigsby

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 April 2021 21:55 (three years ago) link

(also asking price looks a little steep based on a quick search)

call all destroyer, Saturday, 10 April 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link

I thought so, the big attraction is the color and I love those Gretsch/TV Jones style pickups but feels at least a couple hundred high

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 10 April 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link

Why do I dislike painted necks so much? It’s not like there is any material difference to a clear coat.

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 10 April 2021 22:33 (three years ago) link

late to thread but yeah I love the look of the combinata and could live with the headstock but the inlays absolutely kill it for me.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 10 April 2021 23:08 (three years ago) link

xpost It's a '61 reissue with '57 classic PAFs, have to check the actual year of reissue (I think '99?). The guy I got it from had an active Duncan pickup put in the bridge and Sperzel tuners, but I had the original reissue stuff put back in. Still have all that extra stuff though.

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, April 9, 2021 5:47 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh nice. let me know when you want to sell i may be interested.

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Monday, 12 April 2021 16:11 (three years ago) link

Spottie - what's your opinion on the Telecaster Cabronita (MIM) w/the Filtertron style pickups?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 April 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link

those are awesome imo. i remember them a/b testing the custom shop one vs the mim one and it was pretty close. those fidelitron pickups are good. visually i liked the thinline version a bit more. they even did a squier one with a bigsby that people were into.

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Monday, 12 April 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link

cool, they are nice looking. i love filter'trons, had a gretsch electromatic i really regret trading

lol i'm having such g.a.s. that i'm looking at a brian may guitar

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 12 April 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

well shit...thank you to everyone for getting me all tele nuts bought something I don't really need....however this is EXACTLY the guitar I've wanted, tele with a bigsby and filtertron at the neck...big thing was it has a Mastery bridge AND a replacement Lindy Fralin bridge pickup and locking tuners

https://reverb.com/item/39853390-squire-vintage-modified-cabronita-telecaster

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link

That guitar is rad.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 15 April 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

wow man thats super nice

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Thursday, 15 April 2021 22:02 (three years ago) link

i'd been looking at cabronitas, but still wanted the trad telecaster sound too. this one, i figured buying the pickup, tuners and bridge and getting them professionally installed would be getting close to the price he's selling it for

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 April 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

spottie - be curious on your opinion but i don't detect a ton of different between the higher end squier stuff (classic vibe, vintage modified, etc) and the MIM stuff anymore

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 April 2021 22:16 (three years ago) link

looks great! big fan of buying stuff with the mods you want already done so you can get right down to enjoying the guitar.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 15 April 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

the good squier stuff is really good. loads of pros use squier and just mod them like what you're doing. that one you got will hold value, if not increase (if you care about such things). the mim stuff is really great. there was always this unspoken competition between the corona factory and ensenada factory. the mexico factory had a ton of pride in their work and wanted to show they could make guitars better or at least as good. they would take on some pretty cool projects (like the troy van luween jazzmaster). the main issue you'll find with mim stuff is like fret sprout. tonal differences and playability are minimal between mim/squier and if you're putting new pickups in and coloring it with pedals/fx then it doesnt matter. classic vibe/VM squiers are almost too good, there was rumblings of making them worse to not eat into the fender line but in the end i think they just raised the prices.

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Thursday, 15 April 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link

that's interesting, love all the inside baseball stuff like that

shit that blows my mind is the custom shop stuff people pay so much money for something that still like 90% a stock American strat with a cool color and a couple interesting wiring gimmicks

https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/fender-custom-shop-1960-stratocaster-chicago-special-1026985?variant=39299360161927

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 15 April 2021 23:55 (three years ago) link

custom shop is mostly all prestige collectibles for rich boomers, not really much more to it. they sell like CRAZY tho believe it or not. even inside a lot of the people roll eyes at the relic stuff but when they do their showcase at namm that stuff sells to dealers really fast. the master builders are mostly all super nice though and they really love what they and they do some incredible work (yuriy shishkov's stuff is insane and super gaudy but if that's your thing and you have unlimited funds then there's no one better). it's not unlike the sneaker head market really, most people dont get it but it's not for most people. the custom shop calendars are hilarious, just so much nonsense made for people with zero taste. having said all that i own a (non-relic'd) master built strat :)

there was pretty big drama when we got this one new ceo and he wanted to create a regular fender line (fender select) with like all snazzy appointments and figured woods and what not and it was basically just a custom shop guitar for a few hundred less. so much dumb leadership in my tenure but they seem to be in a really great place right now. he was trying to take them public but luckily it fell through at the last minute.

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Friday, 16 April 2021 00:49 (three years ago) link

lol at 9.5" radius being "a modern upgrade" as if it wasn't possible in the 60s.
7.25 til I die baby, except of course for acoustics and my wonderful Casino.

assert (MatthewK), Friday, 16 April 2021 00:54 (three years ago) link

xxxposts congrats on going with it ums. that looks like a glorious ride.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 16 April 2021 01:45 (three years ago) link

like renovating a kitchen by leaving all functional equipment the same but replacing the floor with rope netting

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

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Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 17:41 (three years ago) link

Always impressed by/jealous of the self-confidence of these people - he didn’t just take a chance on ruining one guitar to see how people would respond, he ruined perhaps dozens of them just knowing in his heart people would love them.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 17:47 (three years ago) link

when you're torn between being a vintage fender enthusiast but also really love steinberger basses

joygoat, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

"mostly I squeeze the guitar body through a somewhat H-shaped hole. this is an upgrade to the old guitar shape, which was not looking like an H at all."

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

i ... don't hate the body shape. it's mostly the body shape combined with the standard strat/tele pickups and pickguards that looks dumb

na (NA), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

bizarrely reminiscent of those no-headstock steinbergers

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

it's like an 8th grade shop class tried to make an Ovation Breadwinner

https://reverb.com/item/39403721-ovation-modified-rat-rod-electric-guitar-rebuilt-breadwinner-1970s-black

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 21 April 2021 18:10 (three years ago) link

One of the best threads on Offset Guitars details the "un-Voxing" of a 1961 Jazzmaster.
https://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=111273

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 21 April 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

the "butchering of a classic" aspect of that reminds me that somewhere in the woods next to my parent's old house is my uncle's original late 60s dallas arbiter fuzz face (Reverb Estimated Used Price $1,340 — $3,035) that my cousin and I buried because it looked like a land mine

joygoat, Thursday, 22 April 2021 01:07 (three years ago) link

hahaha wow

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 April 2021 01:17 (three years ago) link

lmao incredible

call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 April 2021 01:52 (three years ago) link

you need a metal detector
geddit?

assert (MatthewK), Thursday, 22 April 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link

One of the best threads on Offset Guitars details the "un-Voxing" of a 1961 Jazzmaster.
https://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=111273

― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, April 21, 2021 5:20 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is absolutely amazing. i'm so impressed at people who can do stuff like this.

call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 April 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link

well, it's been an emotional roller coaster! found my dream guitar upthread...bought it

right away get a message from the seller, hey thanks i'll ship it asap, all cool
next day he's like UPS location closed early, couldn't get it all the packing stuff and get it out, okay cool no worries

weekend goes by...no word...write on monday, write hey just wondering if it's going out today, just let me know

he writes back:
Hi there, I want to greatly apologize for this inconvenience, but I won’t be able to ship this out anymore. It’s my first time dealing with this situation, and to proceed I am initiating a full refund here through reverb. Again, I apologize for this whole situation.

so I write back, i'm a little confused here, anything can be shipped. do you want $75 for shipping instead of $50 (this is chicago to minneapolis so i think that's more than generous), never writes back...i get a refund to my account, write again hey if we can work something out let me know...never hear back

today though I went to Music Go Round to check out this Godin guitar. I'm a huge fan of their guitars especially the Seagull acoustics. Quality wise they are really amazing for the money. Only problem, usually their designs are a little "off" and dorky looking, but this new model looks pretty cool (looks better in IRL than in photos)

https://godinguitars.com/product/radium-winchester-brown-rn

not as cool as the tele, but honestly this thing just feels and sounds so good. it's weird, tele shape but it has a belly cut like a strat...neck is actually shorter, like a gibson sg neck kinda?

HSH pickups, tele style switch but 5-way...coil tap for the humbuckers so it can basically be a strat or super strat

the woodgrain looks really nice IRL, the shape is decent, not quite tele but close enough. the whole guitar just feels exceptionally high quality, got a good price on it. for a (mostly) home recording guitar it's got about as much flexibility as you'd want.

i think it might look good with a bigsby down the road

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link

that's nice looking, especially as godins go. are you thinking about doing a filtertron in one of the HB slots?

call all destroyer, Thursday, 22 April 2021 23:20 (three years ago) link

yeah I think so, the humbuckers do sound good though

the fit/finish is pretty incredible for a $750

I think a Bigsby will make it look better

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 22 April 2021 23:35 (three years ago) link

bummer about the offerup fiasco. wonder if he got a better offer after the fact and bailed.

i was too much listening to your accent (Spottie), Thursday, 22 April 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link

yeah sounds like. randos are gonna flake whether it's on reverb or anywhere else.

just noticed that the godin has that kind of open routing around the pickups. nice utilitarian vibe.

call all destroyer, Friday, 23 April 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link


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