clearly I'm missing something about Evermore, which came across as Folklore-lite to me last time I tried
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Thursday, 8 April 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Friday, 9 April 2021 00:01 (two years ago) link
bizarre
― J0rdan S., Friday, 9 April 2021 00:03 (two years ago) link
this is why we can't have nice things!
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Friday, 9 April 2021 00:08 (two years ago) link
I think I'd like "The Last Time" more if it was more meta, and Taylor had never written a song again about an ex turning up and asking to be taken back.
― Tim F, Friday, 9 April 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link
As time passes, 1989 is moving past Fearless to settle itself as the most successful album in Taylor Swift‘s career.
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Friday, 9 April 2021 00:15 (two years ago) link
her weakest record outside of the s/t won. interesting
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 April 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link
1989 is her best Pop album but idk those results are bizarre. it's great if you cut "welcome to new york" and "bad blood" and maybe "shake it off" depending on how you're feeling and throw in "you are in love" and "new romantics" into the album proper but those duds on the official tracklist are truly dreadful
― ufo, Friday, 9 April 2021 01:22 (two years ago) link
tbf, “I Know Places” is the only true dud. It’s a good album!
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Friday, 9 April 2021 01:35 (two years ago) link
Lover 1reputation 0
^^^ correct, at least
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 April 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link
reputation with 0? this board needs more contrarians
― josh az (2011nostalgia), Friday, 9 April 2021 04:11 (two years ago) link
i should've voted for reputation
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 April 2021 04:17 (two years ago) link
It's so good, and so much fun
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Friday, 9 April 2021 04:24 (two years ago) link
I can't even remember if I voted (lmao), but if I did, I should've voted for reputation
― winters (josh), Friday, 9 April 2021 05:05 (two years ago) link
would any 1989 voters like to explain themselves?
― winters (josh), Friday, 9 April 2021 05:06 (two years ago) link
I voted for Red, but 1989 is probably my second favorite because sequenced synths inna 80s style.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 April 2021 05:28 (two years ago) link
1989 is still really good except for those few duds though
red's weaker tracks aren't anywhere near as bad but i still hate the sequencing jumping all over the place stylistically, my preferred version cuts the three max martin pop hits (which are all underwritten imo), the duets (which aren't terrible but still relatively weak), and "stay stay stay" which is horrible twee grocery store commercial music. that leaves it at a very tight & perfect 10 tracks.
― ufo, Friday, 9 April 2021 05:35 (two years ago) link
folk-more combined wins tho
― abcfsk, Friday, 9 April 2021 05:57 (two years ago) link
“Stay Stay Stay” is amazing though?
― Tim F, Friday, 9 April 2021 08:27 (two years ago) link
otm
― horseshoe, Friday, 9 April 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link
― winters (josh),
really amused at the total inability of this board to process that her most overall-popular album won for good reasons. it's also obviously her best, the only one I even momentarily considered voting for instead was Folklore. It also has the largest cultural footprint imo, and it has "Style".
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Friday, 9 April 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
i.e. people who aren't fanatics (like me) find 1989 to be the best
I really like 1989 now - even Welcome to New York!
― peace, man, Friday, 9 April 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link
oh totally, good opener
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Friday, 9 April 2021 14:57 (two years ago) link
every time i revisit 1989 i like it less... and the transition from "i wish you would" to "bad blood" still makes me want to shut it off. obv i'm a fanatic though, and have come to think of reputation as the better and more interesting pop record (also profoundly misunderstood, which makes me like it more... beneath the "i live 4 the drama" exterior it's almost all love songs)
1989 also def her best ever set of bonus tracks which is also one of my problems with the album lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:01 (two years ago) link
petitioning to be admitted into the alternate universe where "wonderland" was a hit instead of "bad blood"
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link
or 'Clean"!!
― I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:05 (two years ago) link
how do you write a song like "new romantics" and not put it on your album... top 5 t swift song for me
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:06 (two years ago) link
During the mid '10s I listen to her albums less as statements than collections. I skipped around a lot. In 2014, the strength of "Blank Slate" and "Style" as singles reenergized my fandom after Red weakened it. I was wrong about Red and 1989.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link
1989 is a great album and I'm not surprised at all it won, and yes, all the bonus tracks are great. I'm more surprised that there are 9 people who think Folklore is her best.
― Indexed, Friday, 9 April 2021 15:13 (two years ago) link
i like that fearless and speak now tied. that’s a good result
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:18 (two years ago) link
1989 is very good, but it’s not like it’s her Purple Rain or something.
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:38 (two years ago) link
Lover was way too low. Not saying it should have placed in the top four, but it should have had much more than 1 lousy vote.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link
Did anybody say that? She doesn't have a Purple Rain anyway.
Lover might be her Graffiti Bridge tho.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 9 April 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link
We need to do a proper poll for her, damn it
― Indexed, Friday, 9 April 2021 15:46 (two years ago) link
this is probably kind of a good time for it
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
Did anybody say that?
That's sort of what I took sleeve to be saying; no biggie, I just wouldn't have thought it would be a clear-cut/default choice.
― Yawnsomely Literal Cover Band (morrisp), Friday, 9 April 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link
The question is, is Taylor Swift out of her Berlin-era Bowie period?.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 May 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
@DamonAlbarn I was such a big fan of yours until I saw this. I write ALL of my own songs. Your hot take is completely false and SO damaging. You don’t have to like my songs but it’s really fucked up to try and discredit my writing. WOW. https://t.co/t6GyXBU2Jd— Taylor Swift (@taylorswift13) January 24, 2022
I totally agree with you. i had a conversation about songwriting and sadly it was reduced to clickbait. I apologise unreservedly and unconditionally. The last thing I would want to do is discredit your songwriting. I hope you understand. - Damon— Damon Albarn (@Damonalbarn) January 24, 2022
What part of this was reduced to clickbait? You said her songwriting doesn't count as songwriting and then compared her to another female artist with a completely different style.Don't gaslight and throw someone else under the bus because you never thought she'd call you out. pic.twitter.com/Vjupk6XSyT— Alex Goldschmidt (@alexandergold) January 24, 2022
― Indexed, Monday, 24 January 2022 22:46 (two years ago) link
Here is a list of songs where Swift is the only songwriter. All of these I consider among the best songs on each respective album:
The OutsideOur SongFifteenLove StoryHey StephenThe Best DayJump Then FallDear JohnMeanState of GraceRedThis LoveLoverCornelia StreetMy Tears Ricochet
― Indexed, Monday, 24 January 2022 22:49 (two years ago) link
You tell him, Tik Tok guy
― west elm girls (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 24 January 2022 22:58 (two years ago) link
And even in his cagey response he can't even praise Eilish without making sure her brother is tossed in because surely not even Billie can't do it herself. Gross.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 January 2022 22:59 (two years ago) link
But also Tik Tok guy looks a Joel McHale that didn't finish rendering all the way.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 24 January 2022 23:00 (two years ago) link
lol, I just wanted to include the screengrab from the article
― Indexed, Monday, 24 January 2022 23:03 (two years ago) link
He looks like a Nick Kroll character, ha ha
― Rockin’, and rollin’, and whatnot (morrisp), Monday, 24 January 2022 23:15 (two years ago) link
(xp - btw, I generally appreciate both the screengrab and the opportunity to laugh at the conversation-jacker)
― Rockin’, and rollin’, and whatnot (morrisp), Monday, 24 January 2022 23:16 (two years ago) link
lol man, Albarn, of all the people to pick a fight with you pick a fight with Taylor Swift ... where have you been, dude?
I don't know how much she does or does not write all by herself - like screenwriting credits and stuff like that, I'm sure it gets political and stays secretive - but I'm not sure it matters, because no matter who contributes what, or helps with what, her songs would not be what they are without her creative input, whatever percent. The flipside question of course is, say, for all his credits and success, would Max Martin be able to write hit songs for himself? And the answer is no.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 24 January 2022 23:20 (two years ago) link
Taking 1989 as an example, I don't know why they'd credit cowriters for 12 of the 13 songs on the album if she wasn't fully responsible for writing "This Love."
― Indexed, Monday, 24 January 2022 23:24 (two years ago) link
I quickly checked the credits of a few Blur albums; looks like Albarn writes (most of) the lyrics himself, but the music is all credited to the band(?) Is he mainly talking about lyrics here?
― Rockin’, and rollin’, and whatnot (morrisp), Monday, 24 January 2022 23:28 (two years ago) link
she's been pretty open talking about her creative processes in working with varying songwriting partners over the years, none of it's really a secret.
― ufo, Monday, 24 January 2022 23:33 (two years ago) link