From the fire vocaled/Ash and molten glass like EyjafjallajöPOLL - ILM Artist Poll #108: MF DOOM. Voting til April 11.

So what does "there are no maximums" mean in practice for tracks? I'm guessing that a ranked list of all 576 (or whatever) appearances is not really what you had in mind, lol?

Any fans of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_to_the_Kuffs ? To me it feels like the last proper Doom album. I'll probably vote for 'Winter Blues' on the track list. We could live forever like Henrietta Lacks cells

xp Uh,well, OP might've been written on a couple shots and a few beers..but who cares. In practice, placements will be worth the same across all ballots, so if someone sends in hundreds of tracks, their last place will be 1 or 2 points, and on up from there. We could end up with pinball-looking scores. Here's hoping.

xp I think Kuffs could've been a great EP!

Way worse than I remembered: VV2
Way better than I remembered: DANGERDOOM (dump the CeeLo and Kweli tracks for anything from the EP or reissue and this really holds up... not that I can rank it like that exactly)

I remember VV2 being awful, unfortunately. I was so excited that Kool Keith as Dr Doom turning up too.

I actually really like the Cee Lo and Talib joints, makes me wish Doom did more with name artists over the years, I think he could have carved quite the niche for himself. He only ever really got to being like 16th on a gorillaz bill though, when it came to collabs. Rock Co Kane Flow is an obv sign he could have killed it.

Really need to sort a ballot out

I like those guys fine generally, but those two tracks, i dunno, yikes.

Apparently DOOM had a habit of turning down features that didn't come with a payday. At least it's something that came up a bunch of times in coverage this year. Wonder what he was charging some of these kids for features recently.

I've whittled my ballot down to 83 tracks. I'll keep going til the deadline.

I hadn't really paid much attention to JJ DOOM before last week. Often quite good, is my belated impression.

I'll be voting for "Bite the Thong" from JJ DOOM fairly high up. Awesome electro-style beat, with a typically abstract DOOM take on the machinations of the record industry, complete with EPMD references. Magnificent.

xp No need to whittle, can just rank

I used to have a friend when I was 16 and we used to go to Soho to buy records we couldn’t find in our small town. Getting the train back, I remember one of my first instances of annoying-white-guy-says-rap-lyrics about a 12” of Hoe Cakes. He was an indie / jazz type, and even that young he was mad into understanding what was going on deep in 1960s jazz, whether it was free or spiritual or whatever and had a distaste for fusion because people on the internet said that wasn’t real jazz. He hated rap he would hear on the radio.

After that, I tried not to talk to him about rap, there was too much other great music to not talk about something he didn’t like. That train journey always bugged me though cos Hoe Cakes is a fucking journey for anyone who loves both rap and everything weird or different in rap. In a different world, that sample could have been a hit. Instead it’s a deep cut.

A couple years later, when I hadn’t seen him for a while and we had grown a bit, I met him in the street and we ended up chatting for hours. All he could talk about was how much he loved indie rap, and Doom specifically, especially Madvillain, and all I could think was him reading the lyrics off the back of that 12.

Fucking love this shit. Need to make my ballot like yesterday

In which discussion did you guys cover the intricacies of "treat her like a daughter, taught her how to bust a nut"?

I got a copy of that 12 a few years ago on discogs. Every one of the listings didn't get the diner menu back sleeve design and was described like, "back is dirty and has a pricetag on it, otherwise great."

uh this album's the best one isn't it

just gonna vote and live with the regret

just got home for the day and determined to sort mine out,lol

Regardless of your top pick, how do people compare Food and Doomsday? I think Food is the absolute peak and yet.. Doomsday is the original/the return and has more moods..is just more than the sum of its parts.

side 4 of Madvillainy >>>>>> oxygen

Mm Food suffers for having like 10 skits in a row in the middle, makes me wanna skip half the record

It is a weird move. Easy to skip, though I usually don't. Bit of a rest between barrages of classics. What would drag it down for me is if the Paul Barman track (on the Leftovers EP) had made it on there! As it is, pretty much perfect. If you've got that original Kookies beat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhzavmxEzaY

Deadline tonight! I didn't say a timezone, but i won't be doing anything with them tonight, so by Monday 7AM Eastern let's say.

Trying to make my list now and errrr this is a lot harder than I thought it would be. I’ve not even considered kmd yet

Should we maybe extend this? I said I’m doing the graphics for it and even I’ve not had time to vote. Ilx has seemed quiet for the past 2 weeks too, maybe we can hopefully get more folks involved with another weeks drive

Are weekends a bad time to end? Maybe Thursday night? Who else could use a bit more time?

I could get a ballot in by Thursday

Cool. I've heard from others too. We push on to Thursday night.. midnight Pacific. Thanks all.

I just saw this and 100% will vote – might need a day tho to marathon some albums.

oops – thursday is great thx!

Sorry, never voted in one of these things before. Do I have to email or can I just post my votes here?

Email it to the address in the opening post.

Already feels like ages since I voted. Being lazily Sp*tify-centric these days I neglected to check back on VV2 until afterwards. I'll not be losing tooooo much sleep over it, it turns out.

apparently he selected the producers for that one via raffle. and it sounds like it!

"Back End" is nice though -- with a young Diplo producing? And warns you off buying the record in the first line.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7lTrzJGjEw

I was listening to vintage busta today and thought it was a shame no one tried to pair him with doom. He always sounded best on kinda lo fi ummah or DJ scratch beats and he had his own apocalypse comic book shit going on, it would have been really easy to make up a storyline

there was this in 2016 at least

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1uN139ceB0

a random older track he guests on that one my favs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxRGUo4tLjE

THE FINAL (29) HOUR(S) IS HERE FOR THE PEOPLE OF ILX

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKDeN198j8M

i only just noticed the spottify playlist last night!

(i'll be submitting soon tho)

"shame no one tried to pair him with doom. He always sounded best on kinda lo fi ummah or DJ scratch beats"

Idk, rhymes galore, put your hands..., and many other tracks show busta was pretty fabulous, arguable better, on other sorts of beats. Doom on the other hand, was more like nas.

Doom on the other hand, was more like nas.

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candyman please email in a ballot. Dying to read that. To your earlier question about posting it on the board, people often do that following the roll-out (which will be on a new thread linked from here in the coming days). Cheers

Xpost, doom and nas are better on less produced boom bap stuff IMO. I mean that jj doom album was cool, but I prefer him on grittier stuff.

ah ok. i kinda disagree with that re: doom. i wouldn't call madvillain or mm food "gritty" in the traditional sense. viktor vaughn, sure.

Vikster the slickster tho

Umm but uh, he study rhymes and patter-ins
Climb so steep sometimes the beat don't be mattering

I'd close thread there if i could

just sent my nominations. i cant imagine my choices are that different to others tbh (listening back to operation doomsday, i forgot how much i must have listened to it at the time and how many of the songs i remembered so well, really hard to pick standouts) though i did add a top ten doom instrumentals list. madvillainy is overrated a bit i reckon, though i can accept its a good doom album and for people who find his beats a bit idiosyncratic, its prob easier to get into. i really wanted to nominate tick tick feat grimm (white album sample pre dangermouse!) but didnt know where to put it. you need to allow for a mf grimm bonus ballot! grimm and doom were a great duo.

You can totally vote for a Grimm produced by DOOM (or anybody else). Revisions before midnight Pacific are fine as well.

I'm liking the top beats list as well. I will probably be able to produce a "herbs" list just out of the vocal versions people voted for. I mentioned maybe doing that in OP but never suggested sending in a herbs list. Though a bunch of people did include instrumentals among their tracks.

oops that reads backwards. Anybody produced by DOOM is fair game on the tracks ballot, I meant.

Also, I've replied to all ballots. If you haven't heard back from me, shout at me here.

ill prob leave it as is but might do a grimm/doom top 10 list as a bonus ballot (argh i might have to find my MIC album too).