Best track on Trout Mask Replica

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I'd wager that most people on this board are well aware that the entire concept of rock and roll was pretty much swiped wholesale from underacknowledged Black musicians. That fact alone doesn't exactly clear the way for referring to music you dislike as 'minstrelsy' because it reminds you of the work of Black artists.

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

yeah it's not that anyone doesn't acknowledge all that, left, i'm not discounting it at all - just, to quote, you rhetorical style is often "the closest weapon at hand"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 17:21 (three years ago) link

I mean, there are certainly plenty of problematic aspects to white electric blues (the Blueshammer problem, you might call it) but I would source them to racist interpretations of 1930s delta blues, rather than to the minstrel show. This is a world where actual minstrel show songs or "c**n songs" (Hello! Ma Baby, Bill Bailey, Mighty Lak a Rose, Swanee) are still remembered in the lineage of the Great American Songbook.

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 17:26 (three years ago) link

listen to the aerosmith's "honkin' on bobo"

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JoeStork, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

lol, got to that part of Left's post and was like 'that's a hard no'

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

Listening to Aerosmith's "Honkin' on Bobo" seems to have had a trauamtic effect, so I'll pass.

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

When I listened to it I wound up honking all over my bobo, took me an hour to clean up

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link

Once you honk you just can't stonk.

(pls refer to educational video about "The Stonk" on youtube if you don't understand this)

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link

Surprised to see 0 votes for "my human gets me blues."

trip maker, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 18:43 (three years ago) link

it's not a coincidence that a huge number of white rock vocalists sang or sing the way they do and it's not something without historical precedent. listen to the aerosmith's "honkin' on bobo" and tell me it's a) racially unproblematic and b) totally different from what beefheart was doing (yes he did more interesting things with it, that's not the point)

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This how the capitalist bosses talk about Beefheart?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

what

new display name (Left), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

The album title was suggested by Steven Tyler, who heard the phrase somewhere and the band found it funny.[4]

soref, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

(xp) Trout Mask Replica?

Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 21:31 (three years ago) link

https://worldscinema.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/The-Bobo-19672-e1544456799524.png

I don't care if you're black, white, blue

soref, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link

this album would be great if it was instrumental but the captain's beat/bluesman minstrelsy shtick is insufferable and sinks the whole project

You should check this out:
https://cuneiformrecords.bandcamp.com/album/pork-chop-blue-around-the-rind

o. nate, Friday, 9 April 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link


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