Pier Paolo fucking Pasolini: Search (I don't want to hear your destroy choices cause they're of no fucking interest to me)

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However you see it, don't watch the colourized, cut and English-dubbed version from Legend Films!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 2 April 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link

However you see it, don't watch the colourized, cut and English-dubbed version from Legend Films!


Are you joking? The same people who have is colorized Plan 9 From Outer Space and Rifftrax? Dare I hope Rifftrax have a version of that in the can?

In on the killfile (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 2 April 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link

the colourized, cut and English-dubbed version from Legend Films!

why the fuck would anybody do this??

Call of Scampi: Slack Nephrops (Noodle Vague), Friday, 2 April 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link

I think it's meant for American Christians who presumably don't want to watch a long black-and-white film in Italian, whoever the main character is.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 2 April 2021 16:17 (three years ago) link

I rented a DVD of Gospel According to Matthew, was pretty old tho (Window-boxed)

flappy bird, Friday, 2 April 2021 16:54 (three years ago) link

Presumably whoever scripted the English-language version downplayed the Communist angle for the US audience too.

gordon whippoorwilltrap (Matt #2), Friday, 2 April 2021 17:06 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Most of the major work on The Criterion Channel. Have never watched Accatone, doing so tonight.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 22:36 (two years ago) link

"Make sure to bury me over there, in the sunlight".

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 9 March 2022 22:37 (two years ago) link

Presumably in celebration of his centennial.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 March 2022 23:20 (two years ago) link

For most of its running time Accattone plays like Rossellini or early Fellini: a seamier I Vitelloni. I don't know if the dream sequence quite works.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 11 March 2022 13:08 (two years ago) link

Watched the restored Gospel According to Matthew on CC; looks great.

Chris L, Friday, 11 March 2022 13:17 (two years ago) link

It's true that Accattone isn't a formal break from the style and stories of neo-realism; what I love about it is the novelistic pacing and this thick aura of fatalism that overhangs the character, but is subtle enough that you can't put your finger on how it's created. I thought I might have voted for this in the all-time film poll, but instead I chose Edipo Re.

I'm still waiting for Noodle Vague to answer my question from eleven months ago.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 11 March 2022 15:50 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Well that'll do ya

https://www.criterion.com/boxsets/6588-pasolini-101

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 March 2023 18:09 (one year ago) link

I've still only ever see the Trilogy of Life.

niall horanburger (cryptosicko), Thursday, 9 March 2023 19:40 (one year ago) link

just came here to post that. damn.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 16 March 2023 22:13 (one year ago) link

Trilogy of Life.

i have that blu-ray set

ToshirĹŤ Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 17 March 2023 00:17 (one year ago) link

saw The Gospel According to Matthew recently and it seems like his greatest film. Mamma Roma, Accattone, The Hawks and the Sparrows, and Teorema are also really good

I thought Salò, or the 120 Days of Sodom was a tedious and lifeless film

haven't seem the Trilogy of Life, those films are generally not available to rent

Dan S, Friday, 17 March 2023 00:54 (one year ago) link

The documentary about Italian sex life sucks, I must say. It's done after 10 minutes.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 March 2023 01:02 (one year ago) link

Maurizio Viano says the only value the film has is as a documentary of the embarrassment and shame of the participants, who spend most of the time evading Pasolini's questions.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 17 March 2023 01:12 (one year ago) link

NYRB are releasing Teorema on paperback (didn't know it was a novel). I don't particularly care for him as a novelist but I am interested to see how these things translate.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 17 March 2023 11:15 (one year ago) link

My second favourite of his movies after St Matthew, I'm also interested in reading it

satori enabler (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 March 2023 11:29 (one year ago) link

As I recall, the novel is a series of monologues by each of the family members and their relation to the guest.

Here's a thought I posted in the Rolling Stones thread:

On the subject of Metamorphosis, it occurred to me that "Family" has a lot in common with the Pasolini film Teorema: the four characters of the father, daughter, mother and son are very close, even in details like the daughter's attraction to the father and the son's impotent attempts to express himself as an artist...
But! The song was finished in June of 1968 and the film didn't premiere at the Venice Film Festival until September, so that would seem to indicate the film had no influence on the song...
But! Also in June of '68, the Stones filmed One Plus One with Jean-Luc Godard, whose wife Anne Wiazemsky would have just finished acting in Teorema itself at about that same time. Is it outlandish to propose that Jagger might have seen a summary or discussed the plot of the Pasolini film with either Godard or Wiazemsky herself, who appears in One Plus One (though not on-screen with the Stones)?

― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, January 29, 2022 4:28 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 17 March 2023 11:53 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIzA-QJRGV0

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 17 March 2023 11:57 (one year ago) link

After watching The Gospel According to St. Matthew (eh), Mamma Roma (good, but rather too much spirited Anna Magnani laughter), and, tonight, Teorema, I realized we're not simpatico. Teorema is especially grueling. I admired its hesitations and its sketches of provincial life, but it's without a comma of humor -- this is Boudu territory yet it's so lethargic and po-faced.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 March 2023 21:49 (one year ago) link

I like those but I can understand why someone wouldn’t

It’s Only Her Factory, Girl! (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 00:08 (one year ago) link

Terence Stamp, whom I admire as an actor and figure, is so far from an erotic object that my hesitations also throw my sympathies out of whack

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 00:11 (one year ago) link

Hawks and Sparrows is probably his only comedy, and isn't very funny (though maybe someone finds Pigsty hilarious); although, as you mention, his characters seem to laugh a lot, maybe out of cruelty more often than joy.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 00:28 (one year ago) link

The union's reaction to the boss's decision to give away his factory is meant to be funny, surely? But yeah I can't really with Pasolini either.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 09:28 (one year ago) link

To me he is like a reader of texts turning to films. The New Testament, De Sade, old greek plays.

I loved Teorema and probably my favourite though I last saw it then years ago. Didn't feel like Stamp served as an erotic object, more like the thing that was missing in everyone he touched. It's a great idea.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 09:40 (one year ago) link

Pigsty didn't work. Hawks and Sparrows I've yet to see

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 09:42 (one year ago) link

That's how I ultimately regarded Stamp.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 10:09 (one year ago) link

a catalyst, more obvious with the son and his painting ambitions.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 10:09 (one year ago) link

Terence Stamp, whom I admire as an actor and figure, is so far from an erotic object

Jake G has ruined all other men for you.

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 12:53 (one year ago) link

I've been aware of that for quite some time

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 13:42 (one year ago) link

I saw Teorema as a partial remake of My Man Godfrey

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 13:51 (one year ago) link

If William Powell had fucked Mischa Auer.

the very juice and sperm of kindness. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 March 2023 13:52 (one year ago) link

Viano suggests that, despite Teorema having some of the most literal gay content of any of Pasolini's films, it's actually the least concerned with homosexuality as a theme.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 March 2023 14:51 (one year ago) link

I re-watched Teorema. It's very funny and an excellent story idea, and well executed. Beautiful soundtrack. The music was ace.

Deeply cynical film. I kind want to watch recent 'Marxist'/class films like Triangle of Sadness now.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 8 April 2023 18:37 (one year ago) link

It's playing at the BFI soon, might go.

Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Saturday, 8 April 2023 19:26 (one year ago) link


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