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From the thread that kicked things off:

It occurred to me that, with 18 LL categories, the number of ways to order the categories far, far exceeds the number of active LL players (or humans in general). In principle, then, everyone might be expected to have a unique category ordering by Q% and that be a "fingerprint" of sorts.

Then Thorsten in a fit of procrastination decided to add it to the site, and now it's a thing.

Ovid-19 (Leee), Thursday, 1 April 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link

yikes, okay.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 1 April 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

It's hard for me to imagine that *no one* else shares my fingerprint (6BGE147FA8D9I2H53C, if you must know), given that there are some correlations between strength in some categories and weakness in others. But maybe!

jaymc, Thursday, 1 April 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link

Wait, Thorsten’s fingerprints only use letters.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 2 April 2021 23:47 (three years ago) link

Just submitted the draft questions for my 1DS. Feel kind of weird.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 April 2021 03:38 (three years ago) link

Looking forward to the 1DS this week that one of you smithed.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 April 2021 14:25 (three years ago) link

And just got my first feedback from a tester. Good stuff.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 11 April 2021 23:26 (three years ago) link

Thanks James! We're still polishing it a bit, so we're cutting it close.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Monday, 12 April 2021 14:41 (three years ago) link

Think I just read on the magic spreadsheet that one has to turn it in two days before it goes live.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 14:43 (three years ago) link

Yep! And just submitted, so it's all ready to go.

Is yours "Dude, Where's My Car?"

Tahini Coates (Leee), Monday, 12 April 2021 18:19 (three years ago) link

Ha, no. Did you use the Bulk Uploader?

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

I did (definitely beats copy-pasting a dozen times). It can however be a little wonky, but trying again seems to iron out the wrinkles.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Monday, 12 April 2021 19:53 (three years ago) link

Mine is not live until May.

Yeah, there are some subtleties to the Bulk Upload, but overall seems to work pretty well.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link

By the way, may I ask how many people ended up giving you feedback?

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:44 (three years ago) link

12/12 for the second one; the first one I think was 11/12.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:48 (three years ago) link

Thanks. How long did it take from them all to come in after you submitted?

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 April 2021 23:50 (three years ago) link

For the second one, we got about half of them within the last few days before the testing deadline (though a whole bunch right after I submitted the drafts). They definitely came in in waves.

I'm not as sure about the first one because forks took the lead there (and only one smith gets notified as the feedback comes in).

Tahini Coates (Leee), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 00:05 (three years ago) link

Dribbled in till a few day before iirc

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 12:01 (three years ago) link

Thanks. Did you actually get an email when someone submitted?

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 12:37 (three years ago) link

Yep

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 12:38 (three years ago) link

I have created a couple of Alpaca Farm quizzes, which I had fun with, but maybe I should try to do an official 1DS at some point. It's always just seemed like a long and complicated process.

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:28 (three years ago) link

Maybe, but there’s just something about seeing something you wrote come out in that format.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link

My 1DS comes out May 3. I have 11/12 feedback right now (the 12th still has a couple weeks and I personally almost always submit my feedback on the last day so I can't really complain).

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:46 (three years ago) link

Smithing 1DS's is definitely a time consuming and pretty thankless process but it's one of my favorite things about LL. Not something I would do if I didn't find writing and tinkering with questions fun though.

justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link

Same here, even though this is my first one. Yours looks interesting, mine comes out two days later.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 14:57 (three years ago) link

Anyway, who else is signed up for the American Revolution ML?

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

Me. I think I'm going to do all four MLs during this off-season, which may be a first for me.

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 15:59 (three years ago) link

Considered that, but not really feeling 21st Century Literature.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 16:01 (three years ago) link

That's probably the one I'm most excited about. (LGBT 2 should be good, too, but not as novel since I did LGBT 1.)

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link

today's "instructions" is INSANE

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link

My brane hurt! Some people have too much time on their hands!

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link

I ain't reading all that

jaymc, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

It’s like the worst excesses of the NPL Enigma puzzles

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

xp yeah i accidentally wasted like well over an hour on that and im pretty mad at myself for it

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

like that's time i dont have doing a thing i dont particularly like and am not particularly good at lmao

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 18:40 (three years ago) link

I remember doing the Pen and Paper Math one weekend and spending a lot of time and getting maybe 9/12, maybe one stupid error and two others that were quite hard computations then seeing how many people got 12/12 and wondering how much time they had spent or how in practice they were.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

Famous crossword solver was one of the top three among many.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 18:46 (three years ago) link

...and the same thing just happened to me on Optimizations. Got nine right and was ranked in the 600s.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 19:39 (three years ago) link

I got 8, which is pretty good for me, especially on a 1DS that I didn't expect to participating in.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

And interesting that all of the questions except two in Optimizations were worth < 50 points.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah. I couldn't quite conjure up either of those two *sigh*.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link

In other news: The Loneliness of the LLama Smith Waiting for 1DS Feedback

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link

Anyway, who else is signed up for the American Revolution ML?

hi dere!

I'm surely gonna get hammered; expect a lot of USers are experts on that; I hardly know my Saratoga from my Yorktown.

anatol_merklich, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

expect a lot of USers are experts on that; I hardly know my Saratoga from my Yorktown.

lol, you're giving the American school system too much credit.

Tahini Coates (Leee), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 22:49 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I am expecting to get krushed as well.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 13 April 2021 23:53 (three years ago) link

Only three of us are doing it as far as I can get. Quite a few more for the General Knowledge Puzzle League though.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

I'm doing American Revolution and it is tuned very hard imo

Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 16:50 (three years ago) link

I overthought the Phillis Wheatley question and thought that the reference to "religion" in the Jefferson quote was a clue pointing to Mercy Otis Warren.

jaymc, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

Maybe I should have submitted on Dude, Where's My Car? It was fun to review after the fact, in any case, more than I can say for Instruct 2.

It Is Dangerous to Meme Inside (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link

I picked up on the "liberty"/"death" clue in Q1 of American Revolution, but then answered...Thomas Paine. D'oh.

jaymc, Thursday, 15 April 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link


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