Yeah, the first one was such a success theatrically - a) financially, b) maintaining a long-tail extended run, and c) as a delight to hear audiences reacting to gags and twists - that even a "standard" Netflix two-week theatrical window would be a terrible letdown.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link
That much money for two murder mystery movies? And Rian Johnson has a spotty track record. I dislike his first two movies, and his Star Wars entry has some big problems.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link
and that's just for the rights aiui. throw in another $100M to actually make them.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link
If the first movie made $311M in worldwide box office, and that's before video/streaming sales, $450M for two sequels actually sounds kind of reasonable + basically acquiring Rian Johnson and Daniel Craig's goodwill and a legit franchise for Netflix. I am assuming the $450M includes production costs, though.
― Nhex, Thursday, 1 April 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link
Yeah me too.
And Rian Johnson has a spotty track record. I dislike his first two movies, and his Star Wars entry has some big problems.
I love his first feature, and his Star Wars entry is the only good Star Wars film after 1983.
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 1 April 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link
I will gladly watch any number of Benoit Blanc mysteries written and directed by Rian Johnson, director of the best Star Wars movie and the best Benoit Blanc movie.
― Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 1 April 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link
afaic there are no star wars movies after 1983 but eh obligatory comic store guy rogue one actually
i have no energy for star wars and will not die on this hill lol
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 1 April 2021 03:53 (three years ago) link
silby OTM
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 April 2021 09:30 (three years ago) link
I won't watch his Star Wars movie either, but I definitely know it's the only not awful Star Wars film since 1980.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link
not watching it allows you to be perfectly impartial
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 1 April 2021 14:41 (three years ago) link
c) as a delight to hear audiences reacting to gags and twists
Yeah, this was a really fun movie to watch in a packed movie theatre. I suspect that I would not have enjoyed it nearly as much if I just watched it at home. I am hoping I get a chance to watch the sequels in a theatre.
― silverfish, Thursday, 1 April 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link
look I liked this movie a lot as well but the fact that Netflix is willing to throw half a billion dollars at the one recent movie that was A) actually good and B) not based on an existing property is kind of depressing
― frogbs, Thursday, 1 April 2021 15:42 (three years ago) link
Did you dislike Parasite?
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Thursday, 1 April 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link
Or, speaking of Netflix, The Irishman?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 1 April 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link
tbf that one benefits heavily from knowledge of the Scorsese Cinematic Universe
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Thursday, 1 April 2021 16:57 (three years ago) link
forks outspoons out
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 April 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link
forks out
I hope this feature Insane Clown Posse
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Thursday, 1 April 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link
oh hey i finally just saw this the night before last. fun stuff, turns out i like woke agatha christie
― davey, Thursday, 1 April 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link
it's the only star war I've seen since 1985 but I'm also correct about the 1985 one
I have been reading these all day and gotten zero writing done https://t.co/hx3740K76A— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) February 11, 2020
tbf
https://i.imgur.com/uieWtsN.jpg
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 1 April 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
woke agatha christie
it’s been a while since i read christie but i always had the impression she intentionally wasn’t very subtle calling out misogyny and xenophobia in her books.
― scanner darkly, Thursday, 1 April 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
have you read the original version of And Then There Were None?
― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 1 April 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
ok yes Parasite was good but I feel like big arty foreign films are kind of a different thing, what made Knives Out so unique is that it was a big budget film featuring a lot of recognizable actors playing characters that are not based on any existing IP which is for some reason very rare these days
― frogbs, Thursday, 1 April 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
$40 million counts as "mid-budget" these days
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 1 April 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
oh shiiiit, Scanner Darkly you are probably right about that
― davey, Thursday, 1 April 2021 19:18 (three years ago) link
xp yeah i know she had her own share of things that would be considered problematic now (like poirot often being portrayed as a victim of xenophobia - while saying many xenophobic things himself - but maybe that was the point she was trying to make..). still, considering the time and the genre her mocking of stereotypes is an integral part of her writing imo.
― scanner darkly, Thursday, 1 April 2021 19:36 (three years ago) link
And why not
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/knives-out-sequels-the-whodunit-behind-netflixs-469-million-power-play
Sources say that Rian Johnson, Ram Bergman and Daniel Craig stand to walk away with upwards of $100 million each.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link
the REAL murder mystery was how they absolutely killed this fuckin deal bro
― class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link
so that # didn't include production I guess? obscene
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
After expressing disgust with how arduous acting in James Bond movie is, but continuing to accept the part as they ramped up the pay scale, Craig has to be happy to get that money for walking around and doing a Foghorn Leghorn impersonation
― mh, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
What does someone even do with that kind of money
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link
watch impotently as the help inherits it iirc
― imago, Tuesday, 6 April 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link
walking around and doing a Foghorn Leghorn impersonation― mh
― mh
As I reported upthread from Rian Johnson's in-theater commentary track, it's a Shelby Foote impersonation
― Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link
just watched this, enjoyed it a great deal, cannot imagine how a sequel could possibly work, so basically have nothing new to add to this thread, sorry.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Tuesday, 13 April 2021 23:13 (three years ago) link
do you want to know how though
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link
KNIVES OUT -- dir. Rian Johnson; Daniel Craig, Michael Shannon, Jamie Lee Curtis, Chris Evans, etc. etc.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 00:18 (three years ago) link
feels appropriate that a self-contained movie extolled as an example of the commercial viability of non-franchise original screenplays at the time it came out is immediately given a billion dollars to make a trilogy
― flopson, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link
I want to see two more Benoit Blanc mysteries.
― DJI, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 00:55 (three years ago) link
especially if they involve snooty rich people getting a well-written beatdown
― "Gaspar? No way." (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link
how will they ever followup a murder mystery, can't be done
― lukas, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link
Next one will be a jaywalking mystery
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 01:52 (three years ago) link
STRIPES OUT
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:00 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I mean, turning Blanc into a Hercule Poirot guy who just shows up to signal "this is another twisty-turny mystery" isn't the worst thing in the world. If they try to make some Knives Out universe where you have to remember characters between each film then barf.
― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link
Benoit Blanc gritty origin story
― P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link
Casino Knives
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 02:42 (three years ago) link
future thread state where it’s just sic recursively linking to his own posts in the thread
― mh, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 03:19 (three years ago) link
Quote tweeting for ilx
― Canon in Deez (silby), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 03:20 (three years ago) link
Twitter account where I only quote tweet my prior tweets about Danyo Craigo
― mh, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 03:24 (three years ago) link
why would i repeat or restate my thoughts when i can just link to them #thoughts
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 03:26 (three years ago) link
every film as a homage to different era murder mysteries“WHO’S DOING THIS TO YOU, BOND!”
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 14 April 2021 03:29 (three years ago) link
Andy Dick recast as Blanco
― P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 14 April 2021 03:41 (three years ago) link