It's the color version. I remember seeing that DVD in stores at the time; I don't think many were pressed.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 18:59 (three years ago) link
I've only seen it in color, there's a B&W version? This film was not to my tastes in any event.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link
Bogdanovich wanted to shoot it in b&w, but the suits said no. He ended up with the rights to the film and many years later digitally removed the color with both versions (same cut) bundled with The Last Picture Show in a 2-DVD set.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:30 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I was just reading about this.
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:26 (three years ago) link
IMDB says the B&W version is 7 minutes longer.
I really enjoyed it. It's flawed but fun, kind of a claustrophobic caricature film. Oddly enough, it reminded me a lot of Heaven's Gate, in that the period detail is so loving and that so many scenes are filled to the brim with actors doing stuff (shades of Altman).
Prime also has The Fortune by Mike Nichols leaving today, so I think I'm gonna do a mid-'70s buddy film diasterpieces double feature.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link
Bogdanovich and Kovacs actually lit the movie thinking they would strike some B&W prints, or get to it eventually, so it's more than an afterthought effect (according to him). Had no idea that DVD was bundled with Picture Show, no wonder I've had such a hard time finding a copy. I figure if I'm gonna see it, I should just wait until I find a reasonably priced copy of that DVD. As a massive fan of They All Laughed, I'm much more eager to see this because of John Ritter.
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 00:22 (three years ago) link
wish i'd realized Nickelodeon was on there sooner! i'm sure i'll roll the dice on it somewhere down the line...The Fortune is *dire* imo, with an enormous, painful gap between the talent involved and what's onscreen.
― this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 11:31 (three years ago) link
This is gonna sound all Mr. Burns "I once saw Gentlemen Jim Corbett box an eskimo; back then if a fight didn't go 15 rounds we'd demand our nickel back" but I recall seeing Nickelodeon when it came out - the gimmick was that theaters charged 5 cents for admission.
― henry s, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link
RIP. L.A. Times obituary
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 6 January 2022 18:41 (two years ago) link
Polly Platt very thoroughly sidelined by both that text, and even moreso by the NYT's much longer and superficially more comprehensive obit. Kind of stunning. Gee, wonder why the first few films were such huge successes and completely-realized statements, and things seemed to go somehow awry after Paper Moon....
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 6 January 2022 19:11 (two years ago) link
Among the many amazing things you could notice in this picture, Orson Welles is smoking a cigar in a grocery store. https://t.co/7hPew8kL3h— Tom Nichols (@RadioFreeTom) January 6, 2022
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 6 January 2022 22:03 (two years ago) link
Wild story of Bogdanovich fandom and the recovery of Squirrels To The Nuts, the original cut of PB's last narrative film, She's Funny That Way.
https://tremblesighwonder.com/2022/01/20/you-saved-one-of-my-best-pictures-my-adventures-with-peter-bogdanovichs-lost-last-picture-show/
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 20 January 2022 22:01 (two years ago) link
Wow. I was on the edge of my seat!
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 January 2022 22:26 (two years ago) link
Can They All Laughed currently be screened/streamed? Want to see if it still, um , holds up.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 20 January 2022 23:13 (two years ago) link
Such a great article, thank you!
― assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 20 January 2022 23:23 (two years ago) link
A bit OT, but has anyone read Karina's book?
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 20 January 2022 23:26 (two years ago) link
Oof, just tried to JustWatch search They All Laughed, and it's not even in their database!
YouTube sez HI DERE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNYsas5qdl0
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 January 2022 00:09 (two years ago) link
^^Looks alright, audio a little tinny.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 January 2022 00:18 (two years ago) link
Thanks!
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:06 (two years ago) link
Feel like the guy gets a somewhat deserved bum rap for being a pompous ass, but he definitely made a valuable contribution more than once.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:08 (two years ago) link
He is the voice of the DJ on the country music station in this movie!
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:09 (two years ago) link
Probably worth watching now if only for the Old Weird New York.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:11 (two years ago) link
Probably took me a few viewings back when it came out to not get creped out by Ben Gazzara flirting with Patti Hansen, to name one thing.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:13 (two years ago) link
XPS Iirc, he did same thing in TLPS. Dude liked his C&W.
He really comes off well in that Squirrels To The Nuts piece.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:13 (two years ago) link
I'd honestly rather watch movies about They All Laughed than the picture itself
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 21 January 2022 01:14 (two years ago) link
XPS, well remember that Patti Hansen eventually became Mrs. Keith Richards...
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:15 (two years ago) link
Yes, I remember it well, and in that article, I think, no some interview on rogerebert.com, PB claims that what killed her incipient acting career.Trying to figure out what school Gazzara’s kids are going to.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:17 (two years ago) link
Come to think of it now I wish he had been the DJ on the one country station we had back then, which he mentions in that same interview.
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:23 (two years ago) link
xpost P.S. 40, on 20th Street!
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:27 (two years ago) link
He meets them outside of Stuyvesant Town on 1st Ave... nice that the film respects the geography even though there's a cut in there and they could have used any school.
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:28 (two years ago) link
And yeah, wow, that article is some kinda wild story. What an absolute dream. (I'm being vague to avoid spoilers for those who haven't read.) Agreed that Bogdanovich comes off well as an older dude writing really sincere and enthusiastic emails. A good mode for him.
I was at the Quad screening of They All Laughed that comes up partway through the story! And I remember the kid asking that question, it was cute and well-handled by Bogdanovich. It was kind of welcome because the atmosphere was a little bit charged --- Bogdanovich got really choked up talking about the film, trying to express how special the cast was to him, and how so many of them were now gone. And then somebody tried to ask him for Dorothy Stratten anecdotes or something, which was very awkward. Anyway, I remember really liking the film, more than I expected - the Hepburn/Gazzara material got to me, and I remember Ritter just floating around on roller skates like Chaplin.
― I Am Fribbulus (Xax) (Doctor Casino), Friday, 21 January 2022 01:42 (two years ago) link
Thanks for that, Doctor Casino.Here’s one of my favorite stories about him and Orson Welles
― Tapioca Tumbril (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 23 January 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link
Somehow Targets had been completely off my radar until this year, and I was pretty amazed by it. Reading about the circumstances around it, it really makes a great case for setting arbitrary limits in the creative process - having to incorporate another movie's footage, with only a few days to film the star, works out wonderfully. It's probably the hackiest possible thing to call it prescient, but more than anything else, the shooter's last words as he's led away really stuck with me. And Karloff is so great, the movie's worth seeing just for his delivery of the "Appointment in Samarra" story.
― JoeStork, Wednesday, 26 January 2022 07:21 (two years ago) link
re: that wild narrative we were just discussing, MOMA has big news:
The series concludes with the world premiere of Squirrels to the Nuts, Bogdanovich’s long unseen original edit (he called it “the Lubitsch cut”) of the 2014 romantic comedy that was taken out of his hands, recut, substantially reshot, and retitled She’s Funny That Way for a brief release.
― The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 February 2022 18:51 (two years ago) link
(also stoked to maybe catch At Long Last Love and Saint Jack, which I couldn't get myself to when they played at MOMI soon after his passing)
― The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 February 2022 18:58 (two years ago) link
_The series concludes with the world premiere of Squirrels to the Nuts, Bogdanovich’s long unseen original edit (he called it “the Lubitsch cut”) of the 2014 romantic comedy that was taken out of his hands, recut, substantially reshot, and retitled She’s Funny That Way for a brief release._
― circa1916, Saturday, 26 February 2022 19:39 (two years ago) link
Now on the calendar with a seven-screening run from March 28 to April 5!
― The creator of Ultra Games, for Nintendo (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 8 March 2022 16:15 (two years ago) link
Brody: https://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/squirrels-to-the-nuts-reviewed-the-directors-cut-of-peter-bogdanovichs-last-feature
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 19:44 (two years ago) link
Link to discussion of his passing on the appropriate thread: Rolling Obituary Thread 2022
― The Central Rockaliser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 22:40 (two years ago) link
And oh yeah, friend who has had to watch the director's cut a few times told me it really wasn't that great as well.
― The Central Rockaliser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 22:41 (two years ago) link
Now friend is telling me I should watch Dorothy Stratten’s other film, Galaxina.
― The Central Rockaliser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 23:05 (two years ago) link
But Josefa hated it, so I’m torn.
― The Central Rockaliser (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 30 March 2022 23:07 (two years ago) link
Reading Ron Brownstein's Rock Me on the Water (long subtitle...), about L.A. in 1974. Brownstein probably epitomizes everything people hate about CNN, and he's not a film guy, so I'm surprised to say the film part of the book is good.
"Bogdanovich calculated that from 1952 to 1971, he saw 'something like 6,000' movies."
20 years, 300 films a year, 6 a week...pretty impressive without even home video. There are people who post in the "last X movies" thread who see even more, I think. Not me.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 17 May 2022 12:49 (one year ago) link
Watched The Last Picture Show and Klute, both from 1971, in the last couple of days. They are so different
― Dan S, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 00:32 (one year ago) link
I find Klute harder going these days. Pakula often reaches a point where he's half in love with the easeful shadows of his cinematographer.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 00:42 (one year ago) link
They were the second feature films by both directors. The Last Picture Show had a better story and better cinematography and Klute was more atmospheric, less straightforward
― Dan S, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 00:46 (one year ago) link
(The best film from 1971 though is still McCabe & Mrs. Miller)
― Dan S, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 00:59 (one year ago) link
Watched Daisy Miller in conjunction with the Tarantino book and--expecting nothing--thought it was pretty good, especially the last 20 minutes or so. (As Tarantino points out, it starts out like Bogdanovich wants to show he can transform official literature into screwball comedy, and the rapid-fire dialogue feels pushy.) I don't remember Barry Brown at all from that era, and it indeed looks like he was more of a TV guy.
Jeff Bridges, Timothy Bottoms, Charles Grodin, Brown, Robert De Niro, Bogdanovich--Cybill Shepherd sure drove men around the bend in the first half of the '70s. (Add me to the list.)
― clemenza, Friday, 6 January 2023 05:23 (one year ago) link
Hadn't finished the Tarantino chapter when I posted that last night...Got my answer: he committed suicide in 1978. Tarantino draws a nice analogy between Brown and the character of Daisy.
― clemenza, Friday, 6 January 2023 21:10 (one year ago) link
I recently watched They All Laughed - another Tarantino recommendation - and could not fucking believe how bad it was. And I'm generally a fan of Bogdanovich. But that film does not work in any way. Colleen Camp's character in it has to be one of the most irritating creations in cinema history.
Sometimes I really just don't understand Tarantino's taste.
(New Years Resolution: try to be more positive about things)
The Tarantino book has a lot of interesting insights in it (as well as lots to disagree with).
― Josefa, Friday, 6 January 2023 21:38 (one year ago) link