~~ Erotic Thrillers of the 80s and 90s ~~

Playing God--paired with Color of Night on a budget Mill Creek Blu-ray--not a whole lot better.

I remember Tarantino saying he saw The Color of Night and skipped Natural Born Killers the weekend both opened.

gotta support your bois

Chloe is a riot.

I thought this might be chiming in on the recent discussion of hollywood being worryingly sexless in the recent past. Has this been in any of our threads?

Are you referring to this (fantastic) article?: https://bloodknife.com/everyone-beautiful-no-one-horny/

Lots to discuss there, but I am also wondering if there is a more appropriate thread in which to do so.

Yeah, it's funny that blew up after everyone went nuts at her for shitting on fanfiction

It's been translated into a couple of other languages now

i'd guess one of the main factors in the production of olde tyme horndog films was the relative difficulty (& social opprobrium) of acquiring quality smut back in the dark ages. whereas now once you're old enough to type naughty words into google without a parent hovering nearby the entirety of human sexual ingenuity is available in 4k surround sound smellovision, and if you're kind of a scumbag you can pretty easily find nudes hacked from celebrities' phones. erotic thrillers pale in comparison. the big money'd be in films for the whole family that kids will drag parents to twenty times, and you can't have titties in those or the children will get possessed by satan and then good luck because it's fountains of blood vomit and locusts scourging the fields, nobody's got time for that

which bland & obvious normie take has probably been expressed more succinctly several times upthread, but the thread is long and i am lazy, you're welcome

oh, and the international market. china doesn't want sexy sex in their movies.

first response otm

im sure its a great article but i need to take a deep breath and count to 10 after this opening sentence: "When Paul Verhoeven adapted Starship Troopers in the late 1990s, did he know he was predicting the future? The endless desert war, the ubiquity of military propaganda, a cheerful face shouting victory as more and more bodies pile up?"

GOSH YEAH I WONDER

that article sucks ass ftr

good quality actually sexy erotica is as rare as it ever was imo

Karina Longworth has a new package of You Must Remember This podcasts that focuses on erotic thrillers. The first batch out this spring is called Erotic 80s, to be followed (after a summer hiatus) in the fall by Erotic 90s. The first episode, which sets the scene by covering the porno chic of the '70s and the rating system, is up now. She promises eventually to deal with the "sexless Hollywood" phenomenon of today.

Great episode and start for the series for sure -- the focus is on Deep Throat and Last Tango In Paris for that.

Should Angel Heart have been on this list?

Cool! I haven't listened to her in a while, but she is great.

So far so good on this series.

The non-anglo film doesn't really go anywhere much for me in this list but it reads nice enough

https://www.vulture.com/article/best-erotic-thrillers-streaming-netflix-hbo-showtime.html

Rating Jade over the Last Seduction is kind of a challop

Loving this season of the Longworth podcast. The episode on Bo Derek is both enlightening (to someone who was an infant at the peak of her fame) and infuriating (to someone when knew John Derek was a piece of shit but maybe just not how much of a piece of shit). Longworth’s comment about 10 being all but forgotten today was curious; I had assumed it still held a reasonably “classic” status, but when I looked I couldn’t find it either on any of my streaming services or at my local library.

Thanks for thr alert.

yeah am enjoying the series so far, learning a lot.

re the poll, i had the deep misfortune of seeing Color of Night in the theatre. My roommate wanted to see it & he paid so i went along for the free movie. Bleuchhhhh no free movie is worth that

i would have voted Sea of Love. i think it’s underrated. it’s a great thriller & pacino & barkin have such great chemistry. i think Richard Price wrote it iirc?

Listening to the second episode of the podcast. It's interesting, but Longworth's delivery is weird; every other sentence, she'll pronounce an ordinary English word like she just learned it.

That’s canonical longworth

My theory is she over-pronounces to compensate for natural under-pronunciation

I don’t know what her pronunciation deal is, but I know there’s no excuse for it. You can’t mispronounce “Lovelace” 100x and expect us to take you seriously

Perhaps this podcast is not for you

That said, focusing on 10 is interesting, and something I wouldn’t have thought of, but it might make some kind of sense. I do remember when that film came out. It’s erotic but in no way a thriller. Yet it may have paved the way for the genre.

The delivery is … pretty unerotic, fwiw.

Karina Longworth treats Jagged Edge as a kind of forgotbuster, which actually makes sense--I'm old enough to remember my parents going to see it (I would catch it on cable some years later) and the still-hilarious controversy over the ending*, but from my Letterboxd feed, it looks like the film is now unknown to most people who were not alive and/or paying attention to film in 1985. The film's status rather perfectly reflects its quality, I think: a solid, enjoyable thriller (albeit one with a sloppy conclusion) that needed the hand of a Brian De Palma or even an Adrian Lyne to distinguish it, but instead got the guy who did Return of the Jedi. Oh, and Robert Loggia somehow got a Best Supporting Actor nomination out of the whole thing.

*on that ending, fast forward to the last segment of this (SPOILER-y!) Siskel & Ebert episode if you don't know but care about what I'm talking about: https://siskelebert.org/?p=3635

This was big news in my household, if only because my older sister and mum were majorly crushing on Jeff Bridges at the time

Bridges is definitely at his hottest in Jagged Edge.

This plus Fatal Attraction/Someone to Watch Over Me/Cape Fear all seem to merge into a single blob in my head even though they’re very different films

I remember my folks seeing Jagged Edge and catching the end with my mom once when it hit cable the following year, and it was legit huge indeed. But when Karina teased Glenn C would be featured in discussions of two movies in the series, I went "Well Fatal Attraction...wait, what's the other one?" and absolutely had no idea it would be Jagged Edge until the episode hit, and hadn't thought about it in DECADES, though the poster immediately came to mind after the mention. Truly a memory hole of a movie. (Marquand, said ROTJ director, really had a weird career in retrospect -- he followed up said Star Wars entry having gotten the job with Eye of the Needle with a romantic melodrama with Karen Allen, Until September, then Jagged Edge, then Dylan's Hearts of Fire! Then the poor bastard dies of a stroke.)

Poor guy!

Maybe it was different in a pan and scan vhs version but I don’t recall the last shot being very confusing?

Bridges is definitely at his hottest in Jagged Edge.

― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko),

And how!

My unofficial theory about the demise of the erotic thriller: Joe Eszterhas killed them.

For those who haven't heard the Longworth podcast, Eszterhas's current political (and religious) allegiances are pretty much what you'd expect.

*on that ending, fast forward to the last segment of this (SPOILER-y!) Siskel & Ebert episode if you don't know but care about what I'm talking about: https://siskelebert.org/?p=3635

― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, May 26, 2022 7:32 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

off topic but: oh man, i've been watching old siskel & ebert episodes all week so thank you for this resource

(they loved to spoil the best parts of movies and the show comes off like on cinema... more often than i even expected)

lol i watched jean claude van damme vehicle nowhere to run a couple of weeks ago -- not an erotic thriller unless you count JCvD perving on at rosanna arquette's butt thru a window bcz but it does have an eszterhas script (which is just pitiful garbage)

I’m pretty sure that NTR had a soft-cory sex scene as well, which makes perfect sense given Eszterhas

ill have to quiz my co-watchers, it was empirically unmemorable

It’s the only thing I remember!

oh man, i've been watching old siskel & ebert episodes all week so thank you for this resource

― flamenco drop (BradNelson),

Same! They keep popping up on YouTube.

I get the podcast is shifting talk on these films and category but c'mon Jagged Edge in no way fits

as an erotic thriller? Why not? Wouldn't you kill for Jeff Bridges?

Wouldn't we all

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