Thanks! I like Mark Stewart but I'm probably more interested in the dub-ier side of things
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link
there was a Tims Listening Party last night for the NAS debut.Mark Stewart did very little, other than post a picture of neneh cherry, but adrian dropped loads of details.was a lot more enjoyable than i expected.
― mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
I thought about buying that box — the music's great at times, but the vocals are a huge stumbling block for me.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link
yeah, i totally agree.i have had a couple of their cds in the archive for years, but it's not often i put them on.got the boxset out of a sense of duty more than anything.even now in this digital world, i still have full on pokemon thing re the label re their cd releases.
― mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:15 (three years ago) link
still waiting on an adrian sherwood remixes compme too.never going to happen though is it, label/clearance chaos.― mark e,
to answer my own negativity.this has kind of happened actually.2 volumes of 'sherwood at the controls'.of which volume 2 is by far the most interesting
https://sherwoodatthecontrols.bandcamp.com/
― mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
there was a Tims Listening Party last night for the NAS debut.
i wish i had known!
i LOVE New Age Steppers and would find it hard to narrow it down to one but i might just be swayed towards the debut, but then you'd miss out on "Some Love" which surely could win over anyone who had issues with the vox?
"Threat To Creation", the split album with Creation Rebel is maybe the one for the vocal averse though i'm not sure that one was reissued.
i'm loving the "Avant Gardening" comp of "Rare dubs, version excursions and unreleased tracks". The dubs of "Some Love" are swoonsome.
― stirmonster, Saturday, 27 March 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link
argh every time this thread gets bumped I get mad again about missing the boat on the first AHC boxset
― rob, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:08 (three years ago) link
and this is my point.the On-U cd boxsets are really lovely (heavy box, excellent booklets etc), and they clearly sell out.so, despite the fact i am not a massive fan of NAS, i had to order it.
― mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link
if I wasn't in Canada, I would absolutely buy these without hesitating. If nothing else, the only available copies of the AHC set I could find just now were selling for 3x to 4x the original price
― rob, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link
the best thing on the AHC boxset was an edit by someone from the fan community (who is very involved with the reissues to be fair, but still .. )proper old school on-u noise xs vs AHC.
https://africanheadcharge.bandcamp.com/track/pursuit-underpulse-motion-dj-edit
― mark e, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link
actually that set is still available, but I wasn't sure about it since I already own Songs of Praise
― rob, Saturday, 27 March 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, March 27, 2021 2:09 PM (four weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
yep, as a first time listener, this is my problem too. Not to disrespect the dead (and I love The Slits), but Ari is terrible on these tracks (including "Some Love," on which she sounds utterly tone deaf). I generally have a high tolerance for singers who can't sing, but I found a few songs, like "Stormy Weather," so unlistenable and unpleasant I had to skip them halfway through. Maybe I need to buy the dub album? Because like unperson says, the music is often pretty great.
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 24 April 2021 11:38 (three years ago) link
hence my point re how NAS is not part of the On-U catalogue i often turn to.i do love 'Some Love' just cos its a massive tune, and a big part of the On-U story, but i totally get the negativity.which is a shame as Adrian really put everything into the production for their releases.not so sure there is an actual dub album.the recent 'extras' album still has vocals.it's not a dub album per se, just has the odd dub version ..
― mark e, Saturday, 24 April 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link
there are 2 really good versions of Some Love on the recent comp, one without Ari but with some added DJ action and one with a touch of very dubbed ari.
i love Stormy Weather too :-)
i love Ari in or out of tune but think she stays in tune on My Love and Fade Away, both of which are also very close to my heart.
what's yr thoughts on Mark Stewart?
― stirmonster, Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link
me ? to be honest, i went through a phase just buying his releases out of duty, whereas now, i absolutely love his vocal stylings.was lucky to see him with the mafia a few years back in bristol, and it was insanely loud/heavy, but what struck me the most is that he can really sing.without all the excess, his voice is really lovely.that said, i would never ever want to get on the wrong side of him.someone in the audience shouted something and the ice cold death stare that mark gave the bloke still sends shivers down my spine.
― mark e, Saturday, 24 April 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
actually, was curious what paul thought as i know a lot of people find his voice difficult to deal with. my partner cannot handle it whenever i play any of his stuff. i figured Stranger Than Love might win her over but she thought that was one of the worst.
― stirmonster, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:26 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RTCEvILZEE
― xzanfar, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfHsBLuhHo
― xzanfar, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:59 (three years ago) link
bristol gig : april 22nd - tackhead + mark stewart/mafia + african headcharge + adrian.if it actually happens (i have my doubts), then this could be the best gig of my life.
― mark e, Thursday, 21 October 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link
duhh .. april 29th of 2022.
― mark e, Thursday, 21 October 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link
Do you know the The Justice League Of Zion album? I just discovered it recently (it's called Discoverers btw). No Sherwood but otherwise a lot of On-U affiliates. I've been a bit obsessed with this beauty, it doesn't say who the vocalist is but the group Akabu are on backing vocals on other tracks so I guess it's one of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WSGXRzwx2I
― Noel Emits, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:25 (three years ago) link
not one i have ever seen out in the wild, so, no don't have it.i seem to recall that the cd is a bit of a rare one.
― mark e, Monday, 25 October 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link
prince far i comp. digital and also on tape with tote bag and fanzine. every track on this is gold.
https://bleep.com/release/257636-prince-far-i-cry-tuff-chants-on-u
― stirmonster, Friday, 3 December 2021 01:14 (three years ago) link
New Creation Rebel album coming out in October!
https://creationrebel.bandcamp.com/album/hostile-environment
Two tracks featuring leftover vocals by Prince Far I, one of which also features Daddy Freddy. Otherwise it's deep psychedelic dub instrumentals like they used to do. I love the old Creation Rebel albums so much that this is immediately one of the most exciting albums of the year for me.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 3 August 2023 01:58 (one year ago) link
I wrote about the new Creation Rebel album (and their whole awesome catalog) in this week's newsletter. It rules.
― read-only (unperson), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 15:50 (one year ago) link
What's the deal with the name? Is there a pun i'm not getting? "On - U Sound?"
― Cow_Art, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link
cheers for adding to the build up unperson.really looking forward to this.
adrian has been on an amazing roll of late : LSP, Horace Andy, AHC etc ..
would have loved to been at the 3d surround sound gig he did recently.the track he released to coincide with the gig sounds fantastic even in basic stereo.would love a whole mixtape/album in that kind of style.
― mark e, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:22 (one year ago) link
‘More delay! More reverb!’ UK dub legends Creation Rebel return after 40 years
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/oct/03/uk-dub-legends-creation-rebel-return-after-40-years-hostile-environment
― stirmonster, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 17:44 (one year ago) link
It's here at last — a 6CD Creation Rebel box set encompassing Dub From Creation, Close Encounters of the Third World, Rebel Vibrations, Starship Africa, Psychotic Jonkanoo and Hostile Environment, plus bonus tracks. Out March 29.
― Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:02 (eleven months ago) link
Sweeeeeet
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 15:27 (eleven months ago) link
i've never managed to locate a Close Encounters of the Third World so delighted to find this out.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 16:53 (eleven months ago) link
Another box set coming in February 2025 — Dub Syndicate, Out Here On The Perimeter: 1989-1996.
https://dubsyndicate.bandcamp.com/album/out-here-on-the-perimeter-1989-1996
Contains the albums Strike The Balance, Stoned Immaculate (the first thing of theirs I ever heard), Echomania and Ital Breakfast, plus a new bonus disc of rare tracks. I've already ordered my copy.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Tuesday, 26 November 2024 20:03 (one month ago) link
I finally found a used copy of the first Dub Syndicate box. That thing is pretty hard to come by.
I love the On-U box sets, New Age Steppers is my fave.
― Cow_Art, Tuesday, 26 November 2024 20:29 (one month ago) link