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yes. page 51 of the ruling starts going into the rationale. IANAL but basically it is illegal to tell employees that if you vote to unionize, we will take away a benefit you currently have - it's a form of intimidation. the NLRB finds that this is the most logical/likely interpretation of the tweet.

bear in mind also that, threatened in advance or not, if employees chose Union Yes, employers are barred from making unliateral changes to things that are subjects of bargaining, even before a contract is ratified. (they may try anyway, but they can be challenged for doing something illegal.) so tesla also could not legally do this stock options thing that he was implying/threatening would happen.

basically a more sophisticated sleazy employer would have listened to his sleazy anti union lawyers, who would have told him "you have to phrase it like you're deeply concerned that a possible outcome *of collective bargaining* would be a contract where for some reason the union's representation agrees to give up this benefit and everybody loses out, bizarre though that might be." employers use this schtick all the time - for example fretting that somehow a union would ratify a contract where workers lose more by paying dues than they gain in take-home pay. never mind that this will never ever happen, because what bargaining unit would vote yes to ratify such a contract? the employer can legally speculate that gosh, it's *possible*! watch out guys! musk didn't bother with that, so it seems like he's just saying "an outcome of you voting yes is i will punish you," which is not allowed.

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Friday, 26 March 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link

gotcha. ty!

Nhex, Friday, 26 March 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link

'Investors are pouring money into unprofitable companies more than any time since the dot-com bubble.' https://t.co/myvYqbQYR7 pic.twitter.com/EOuevP70ZU

— Jesse Felder (@jessefelder) March 26, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 26 March 2021 15:29 (three years ago) link

what could go wrong

sean gramophone, Friday, 26 March 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link

no future no past

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 26 March 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link

Elon Musk, Texas: Apartheid. https://t.co/xzOglJuRyV pic.twitter.com/SSlqHlD3sM

— The Onion (@TheOnion) March 25, 2021

can't believe this dumb herb actually replied

rob, Friday, 26 March 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link

this guy

lag∞n, Friday, 26 March 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

apparently bitch-ass-ness is as unlimited as income growth for the wealthy these days

John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Friday, 26 March 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

this dude sucks

Clay, Friday, 26 March 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

I have been told of this creep's genius mind for almost ten years now and I have yet to use any of his products, and most of the people around me can say the same. Dude is the ultimate snake oil vendor and I hope unionization drives his ideas out of the highway and into the precipice.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 27 March 2021 00:38 (three years ago) link

Lmao the Babylon Bee fucking suuuucks

frogbs, Saturday, 27 March 2021 00:45 (three years ago) link

on the upside there's a lot of gold in that Onion slideshow

rob, Saturday, 27 March 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link

I found a video about Tesla's autopilot in Vietnam.
That poor system just gave up. pic.twitter.com/9J3FlL2tsw

— Tu Minh (@TuhmSG) March 30, 2021

lag∞n, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

Lol

lots of FSD failure vids going on right now. Clearly not close to ready.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

Lol I didn't realize anyone owned a Tesla here in Vietnam. I have often thought when driving here that this might be the toughest challenge on Earth for their autopilot

Vinnie, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

Athens, Greece is also pretty nuts with all the motorbikes.

DJI, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

It’s fine SpaceX. I’ll just reschedule my field work until next year again because I can’t drive down a state Highway or state beach. It’s only public land and critical habitats you just showered with rocket parts. pic.twitter.com/gTj9l5SXrV

— Ross Winton (@rosscwinton) March 31, 2021

armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 1 April 2021 01:03 (three years ago) link

Technoking indeed

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 1 April 2021 02:55 (three years ago) link

The explosion of yet another (3rd so far this year) SpaceX rocket prototype yesterday showered metal and potentially toxic debris far into the sensitive tidal flats of the South Bay Coastal Preserve, Boca Chica State Park and the Lower Rio Grande Valley National Wildlife Refuge. On the right side of the highway is the SpaceX fenceline, and on the left is what has historically been one of the single most important sites for wintering Piping Plovers and thousands of other shorebirds. Since SpaceX gets County orders to close the highway and beach most weekdays we have had to cut back extensively on our monitoring there. Sadly, most news stories about these explosions neglect to mention the extensive damage being done to these highly unique coastal public lands.

https://www.facebook.com/CBBEPCoastalBirds/photos/a.1410276219230980/2985174601741126/

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Friday, 2 April 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link

Lmaoooooooo pic.twitter.com/DXU5e3dGJ7

— logo, uncool zoned dad (@logophobe) April 5, 2021

lag∞n, Monday, 5 April 2021 15:05 (three years ago) link

this is really something!

Footage of what it looks like when a @Tesla is traveling through the @boringcompany’s Convention Center Loop. #vegas #boringcompany pic.twitter.com/ph1DJoTYBi

— Mick Akers (@mickakers) April 9, 2021

lag∞n, Friday, 9 April 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

remarkable! maybe they can build a scale model of london in the parking area and play the peter pan title music.

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:52 (three years ago) link

Apartheid guy is an arsonist

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

Lol fair

behold: the las vegas tradition of using light design to distract you from what a bad time you're having https://t.co/Yaot4SRTPJ

— Scott Frazier (@safrazie) April 9, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 April 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

can you carry open bottles in the tunnel, though

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 9 April 2021 18:09 (three years ago) link

My neighbor just bailed on getting a Tesla solar roof installed after like 8 months of runaround from the company.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 9 April 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

Actual footage of Elon's Tesla submarine attacking a competitor's loop prototype:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/5e/23/9b/5e239b8a83739df81702fdd2e80af52d.gif

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link

In more serious/interesting news, I did hear a good Freakanomics episode that addressed the challenges self-driving cars face with roundabouts:

https://freakonomics.com/podcast/roundabouts/

When a human driver enters a roundabout, Cameron explains:
CAMERON: What you’re doing is having to do this intricate dance almost, with all of these other people. You’re basically taking social cues from all of these different vehicles and you’re doing that visually.

As we’ve been hearing, learning this roundabout dance can be a challenge for human drivers.

CAMERON: In a robo-taxi, that same challenge is present. You have to be able to perceive these objects early.

Objects including not just other vehicles but pedestrians, cyclists, dogs.

CAMERON: You have to be able to understand their intent, understand their direction, their speed. And all of these things make for a particularly interesting challenge. And a robo-taxi is not quite as aggressive as a human driver. So it’s very conservative.

And in some circumstances:

CAMERON: You cannot be conservative. It just doesn’t work. You’d be stuck there at the entrance to a roundabout forever.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

"Hey, kids --- Big Ben! Parliament!"

sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Friday, 9 April 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link

lol that's in the episode!

BERESFORD: It was that Lampoon with Chevy Chase — that’s so much stuck in the psychology of the Americans, that you’re just going to go ’round and ’round forever on a roundabout.
You may remember this scene:
Chevy CHASE: I guess what we do is just drive around the circle here.
It’s from the 1985 film National Lampoon’s European Vacation. Chevy Chase plays the American dad Clark Griswold, driving around a London roundabout with his family.
CHASE: Hey look, kids! There’s Big Ben and there’s Parliament!

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

hahahahhaa

sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Friday, 9 April 2021 19:23 (three years ago) link

Stephenson's Rocket, a fucking oak barrel on wheels, went faster than the Las Vegas Loop in 1829 and hauled more people pic.twitter.com/X90A3uWZfe

— 🌈Wings & Strings (@TomColetti) April 9, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 9 April 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

Elon would go faster if he sealed himself in a barrel and got thrown over Niagara falls.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 9 April 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

I like subways.

Why would you replace subways?

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 10 April 2021 02:32 (three years ago) link

because theyre competition for your car business

lag∞n, Saturday, 10 April 2021 02:33 (three years ago) link

Seems very unsafe, also.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 10 April 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link

Kylie Jenner drives through Deathtrap Tunnel

Kylie Jenner showing off The Boring Company tunnel in Las Vegas 👀

🔥 @elonmusk pic.twitter.com/wwN0yc9zIx

— SAINT (@saint) April 14, 2021



how long before someone crashes their car in here and they can't get it out? like, a week?

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 16 April 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link

the cars must be on self driving mode in the tunnel no

lag∞n, Friday, 16 April 2021 13:52 (three years ago) link

makes sense, but doesn't look like it from that video.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 16 April 2021 13:55 (three years ago) link

good, because Jenners don't have a good track record when driving their own vehicles

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link

thankfully there have been no incidents to date of accidents involving self-driving cars

sgt. pepper's one-and-only bobo honkin' band (Doctor Casino), Friday, 16 April 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link

That's what the 🔥 emoji represents

— G (@grova) April 15, 2021

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 16 April 2021 13:59 (three years ago) link

feels like an admission that their self-driving tech is at the single lane tunnel level.

microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link

how long before someone crashes their car in here and they can't get it out? like, a week?

That's the whole plan: a car will get stuck, and Elon will announce a new Land Submarine that will drill down and rescue it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

until he is then stepped on by a Kaiju

P-Zunit (Neanderthal), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:10 (three years ago) link

feels like an admission that their self-driving tech is at the single lane tunnel level.

― microsloth fig stimulator (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, April 16, 2021 10:00 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

at 35mph max lol

lag∞n, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:23 (three years ago) link

I'm more confused by the fact that Tesla actively chose to release videos of it than I am at how much it sucks.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

i feel like a lot of the excitement & novelty theyre feeling in that vid has got to be down to the fact that ppl that wealthy are never actually in the front seat of a moving vehicle seeing the road through the windshield

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Friday, 16 April 2021 14:32 (three years ago) link

the indescribable thrill of crushing claustrophobia

rob, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:48 (three years ago) link

going to redub the clip with the tunnel scene from willy wonka

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Friday, 16 April 2021 14:51 (three years ago) link


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