Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

lol, but I only saw this after buying a box of Cinnamon Toast Crunch Churros on sale at Walgreen's. I have no idea who those people are either ... though I had heard of the gallery and in my mind it is somewhere in the historical progression from high art to NFTs

In light of the reporting on Scott Rudin, I am thinking a lot about this interview I did in 2017 with Steven Soderbergh. In it, he said that when he talks to students, part of the discussion is about running a humane set. https://t.co/eto1u8pqc0 pic.twitter.com/HjpVOLPsTS

— MZS (@mattzollerseitz) April 10, 2021

Scott Rudin story (huge temper, volatile, no sexual harassment, classic “lol Ari Gold” material):

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/everyone-just-knows-hes-an-absolute-monster-scott-rudins-ex-staffers-speak-out-on-abusive-behavior

I mean, fkn SPY reported on Rudin 30 years ago. This is not a breaking story.

disclaimer: back in the 90s I worked briefly in the offices of both Rudin and equally famed bully Lynda 0bst. Good times. It was no secret.

The THR article cites several other reported pieces, as well as the 1994 film Swimming With Sharks. It is not pretending to break the story.

I mean, fkn SPY reported on Rudin 30 years ago. This is not a breaking story.

Neither was Weinstein having a rep.

I just saw somewhere that the Weinstein-inspired Law & Orderverse ep w/Jeff Garlin as HW is over 10 years old.

love the 'oh, this is news to you? *i* always knew better' response

go on. I’d love to know what the story is here beyond “known asshole remains asshole.”

is it that the industry still tolerates all sorts of cruelty? is it that the streaming revolution has shaken up previous hierarchies sufficiently that people feel more empowered to speak out? is it that a new generation is coming up that might do things differently? is it that Rudin’s weak enough now that this can be said out loud in the trades?

MZS tweet says more than the THR piece does.

so i guess you were there first? and did nothing? kudos?

If any reporter or screenwriter ever writes about humans, corporations or governments doing bad things, nobody must ever report on those subjects again, especially if they continue to do the same bad things for decades

not going to bother responding seriously.

Followup piece on Rudin:

https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/scott-rudin-abusive-behavior-allegations-career.html

Looks like Jackman did have a word: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/17/theater/scott-rudin-steps-away-from-broadway.html

(sourced from the slightly less sceptical)

"Why Some Hollywood Execs Are Hoping for Scott Rudin to Return":

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/scott-rudin-claims-some-execs-are-hoping-for-scott-rudin-to-return

33 Rudin assistants interviewed:

https://www.vulture.com/2021/04/scott-rudin-as-told-by-his-assistants.html

Meanwhile at Jake Paul's influencer "collab house," bullying, wage theft, racist abuse and sexual assault:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/22/style/jake-paul-team-10.html

lol at scott-rudin-claims-some-execs-are-hoping-for-scott-rudin-to-return

"Some Execs Are Rudiner Than Others"

why ya gotta be so Rudin

some execs' mothers are Rudiner other execs' mothers

Chabon lengthily acknowledging his two-decade complicity:

https://michaelchabon.medium.com/apology-of-a-rudin-apologist-85bec4879119

English actor, writer/director and producer Noel Clarke thoroughly #MeToo-ed in the Guardian, with 20 accusers so far, and comments suggesting this is the tip of an iceberg. His and his lawyers' statements to the paper, and phone calls to women they suspected of being sources, are flashing neon signs, too.

More anecdotes and statements about Clarke have continued to come out, such as this from the London School Of Dramatic Art.

can we not use “#me-tooed” when the article doesn’t say that, and it’s used as a shorthand by conservative pundits as a way to say “this person is a victim of mob action and he probably did nothing wrong”?

sorry, you said “#metoo-ed”

I still think of it as a righteous reckoning, apologies if anyone reading has converted to reading it otherwise.

(I'm personally inclined to not surrender useful language to those who deliberately try and divert it - it's certainly easy to tell when people are using "woke" sincerely, vs gammons steaming their hamheads about "wokery" and "gwgb" - but will be cautious around that one.)

fwiw, i also read "me-too'd" as shorthand for "Caught" and not much else

(The fact that so many women were able to say "me too" when told that others had spoken to the reporters, and more did so in response to the article about the first 20 dropping, supported the value of the phrase imo)

can we not use “#me-tooed” when the article doesn’t say that, and it’s used as a shorthand by conservative pundits as a way to say “this person is a victim of mob action and he probably did nothing wrong”?

I think it's probably tactically useful to tie it to "remember that time when we decided this wasn't okay (and that time a bit later when we remembered that we decided that again)" - I agree it's not useful to over-consider conservative media's smearing of terms (or there'd be no BLM or Antifa).

the hashtag as a verb is best avoided unless you want to sound like kanye

Mh’s explanation is useful, but I’d add to it. The term puts the focus on the person being accused and inverts the actors and victims in a really perverse way, to the point that it flattens out the actual happening(s) and the pain caused by it(people talking about what has happened to them) to this very cynical sort of “so and so got targeted by these accusations”. It’s a really unhelpful term at best and I’d encourage those of you determined to use it who you think you’re doing it for.

*to ask who you think, gah

I'd see the focus being switched to the accused as a good thing though, it takes it as read that there's a preponderance of accounts against him and short-circuits any he-said-she-said.

I mean, I'll be happy if and when it gets to the point where a single accuser has more weight than the accused, but the power imbalance in the stories itt suggests that'll take more than parity.

Four women sexually harassed and bullied by Clarke on the set of Dr Who, before he began writing/directing/producing, have also given accounts to the Guuardian. His legal responses continue to be persuasive.

...another former runner on Doctor Who alleges Clarke sexually harassed her and another female coworker in a bar at the Holland House Hotel in the mid-2000s in Cardiff, following a work event. When the women rejected Clarke’s advances, she alleges, he became “rude” and “aggressive”. The following day, she said Clarke spread false rumours about both women on set.

Clarke strongly denied the allegation. His lawyers said there would have been no real need or purpose for him to be in the hotel bar because he does not drink.

I really fucking hate this. Dude was set up to be the fucking Golden Child and he wiped his ass all over the opportunity.

DJP otm

disgusting entitled toxic bullshit

when these are the "further reading" headlines about you in one week

https://i.imgur.com/bvd3fXv.jpg

your best move is probably to respond to an ex's accusation of “abusive, manipulative, and predatory” behaviour with instagram posts saying things like "do you know what’s ‘predatory behaviour’? When we were having a fuckin’ threesome with your fuckin’ weird mate from the fuckin’ bar and I was having a fuckin’ diarrhea shit on the toilet and you were trying to kick the fuckin’ door in to fuckin’ sit on my dick." and "I’m confused as to where the predatory thing is coming from. What even is the accusation?… If it’s the predatory thing, it’s false. Also, I was 29 at the time. What’s the problem with trying to find a 19-year-old?"

There has been a mini reckoning with harassment/discrimination in the beer industry in the last week. A female brewer began soliciting stories from women and POC of issues they have faced working in the industry and started receiving an avalanche of stories related mostly through Instagram. Specific bad actors were named and shit popped off:

https://www.goodbeerhunting.com/sightlines/2021/5/18/beer-industry-allegations-legal-vulnerability

wasn't sure whether to put this here or in the "shit that looks like an onion article" thread

Kevin Spacey ‘to play sex abuse investigator’ in acting comeback https://t.co/jdyLttrySq

— The Independent (@Independent) May 24, 2021

.....

Given how #metoo was received in Italy, I can't say I'm surprised.

Is this the movie/metoo thread? This is tangential, but interesting:

Does my name belong to me? My face? What about my life? My story? Why does my name refer to events I had no hand in? I return to these questions because others continue to profit off my name, face, & story without my consent. Most recently, the film #STILLWATER.

/ a thread

— Amanda Knox (@amandaknox) July 29, 2021

Nice how she gets a plug in for her podcast there

cmon she has been through total hell and then some -- for some movie to use her story and publicize it with her name without her consent is gross and very wrong imo

I think I’d have more sympathy if she hadn’t falsely accused her (black) boss at the bar she worked at of being the murderer.. and making up details to support that story. It completely wrecked the guy’s life. She was convicted of that. Is that “morally vile”? I’m going to say yes. But Patrick Lumumba doesn’t have a podcast and doesn’t do “threads”.. so who tells that story (and does Knox get final sign-off??)

I guess I forgot about that part. I can’t help but have some sympathy for her even though she’s clearly some variety of asshole.

Was this the accusation that was after days of abusive interrogation without a lawyer and that was basically concocted by the police themselves?

Hoo boy

Do enlighten me! I didn't think "it's the police who are the bad guys" was such a hot take but I'm happy to be proved wrong.

At this point we should probably create a bot that ingests all of truejustice.org and a bot that ingests all of amandaknox.com and have them collaborate on a DLC of Ace Attorney

I can’t imagine what it’s like to be her, or Monica Lewinsky, or anybody else “embroiled” in a huge public scandal. But I think people do get to make movies about your story, or based on your story, without asking your blessing probably.