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Gotta love that "this is the African way to apologize" is what he came up with to explain his actions after being called out.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:39 (three years ago) link

Is that from some other media somewhere? H Rider Haggard or the Lion King or something?
or is it simple fruit loopery.

Stevolende, Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:44 (three years ago) link

it's in the news story; he claims a Nigerian father made his son kneel when apologizing, ergo now all Black people must kneel when apologizing otherwise it isn't sincere to him

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:47 (three years ago) link

particularly valid when the offense is *checks notes* being ahead on your schoolwork

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Thursday, 25 March 2021 13:48 (three years ago) link

The headmaster, who is not being named by CNN

Yeah, that is very weird. It almost sounds like the "don't name mass shooters" thing, except that that obviously doesn't apply.

jmm, Thursday, 25 March 2021 14:22 (three years ago) link

this seems like a good way to frame this going forward
https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/ncna1263216

It’s been three months exactly since we watched — on live television — as supporters of former President Donald Trump climbed past barricades, shattered windows and besieged the U.S. Capitol. The president’s name echoed through the corridors of Congress as the insurrectionists unleashed their frustration at a nation they feared would soon no longer be recognizable to them, a rallying cry to defend the man who had positioned himself as their savior.

Since then, we’ve come to learn a lot about the mob that ripped through the building that day. And, vitally, a new study shows that this wasn’t just a group of people primed to believe the election had been stolen. These weren’t just people wracked with economic anxiety, as previously assumed. It wasn’t even mostly made up of members of the far-right’s front-line groups. What we witnessed was a race riot.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 17:57 (three years ago) link

I mean, duh

I feel like Black people have been screaming this into the void for the past 5-6 years

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link

TS: MSNBC vs The Void

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link

Yeah, real statement of the obvious there.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

But, amazingly, there are millions of Americans for whom the obvious is not obvious. For those people, it wold help to have some semi-authoritative voice repeating it endlessly, until they absorb it enough that it becomes obvious to them, too.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

The people who need to hear this will not accept the author of this piece as a semi-authoritative voice.

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

I slightly disagree. Those who need to hear it are not the racists who rioted. They are unreachable. The mushy white middle who are unaccustomed to thinking in these terms and whose thinking about race is grounded on comfortable ignorance might include some who would accept the author as semi-authoritative, if only because the author was 'sponsored' by a huge corporate white-owned media entity.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

The people who need to hear this are not consuming information from MSNBC

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

Take who you can get.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

The people who need to hear this are not consuming information from anywhere.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link

Depending on your definition of 'information', sure.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

ugh idk why this of all things sets me off. maybe it’s the chinstroky nature of the framing, as if this is a purely academic inquiry that like “merits further study” or possibly the self-important “now I, a person whose opinions are important, see things differently...”

gonna log off for a bit I think - this has pushed me over some stupid edge

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

pomemitul (and everyone) *of course*

I’m just seeing too much red to respond to this thoughtfully. as noted, gonna step away.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link

best way to approach this from a personal perspective imo would be to present the capital riots in shorthand as "seditionist race riots" whenever discussing them and see who pushes back

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 7 April 2021 23:11 (three years ago) link

a good inevitable latter half "how it started/how it's going" photo
http://hyperallergic.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Image2-resized.jpg

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 April 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

this should require a link to the "how do you wipe your ass" thread

Heez, Friday, 9 April 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

you don't see the leaves?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 9 April 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link

actually the confederate flag gets usage in the follow-up picture

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 9 April 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link

I would never desecrate my ass by rubbing it on a filthy Confederate flag

Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Friday, 9 April 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

I hear you, but there are ways of making sure it only comes into contact with the expellable contents of one's ass.

pomenitul, Friday, 9 April 2021 19:05 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

His suggestion was immediately met with disgust from fellow Republican state Rep. Stephanie Hilferty, who noted, "there's no good to slavery, though."

succinct and clear! should put a swift end to this--

The bill's committee vote ended up being a 7-7 deadlock, meaning the bill will not move forward to the full House but also hasn't officially been killed.

oh

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

"there's no good to slavery, though."

that's just your OPINION, stephanie

superdeep borehole (harbl), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link

jesus fuckin christ, we are in the stupidest timeline.

shoulda known he was a fellow Italian, a lot of us are really racist.

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link

you guys can't cancel slavery! you signed up for the 12-month plan!

Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link

I would like for life to stop being a Colin Quinn monologue

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

So, we were voted the anti-Asian hate crime capital of North America:

https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2021-vancouver-canada-asian-hate-crimes/

Punster McPunisher, Friday, 7 May 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

Damn. Had no idea.

Nhex, Friday, 7 May 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

not surprised, definitely appalled

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 7 May 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

that articles explains the history and scapegoating really well

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Friday, 7 May 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

"positive"

Another positive cause of fertility decline has been the assimilation of Hispanic Americans to U.S. fertility norms.

In 2007, Hispanic American women had about 67% more kids than their White counterparts; by 2018, the difference had shrunk to under 20% https://t.co/w5AUpMdzV1 pic.twitter.com/5s8vigEzke

— Bloomberg Opinion (@bopinion) May 7, 2021

superdeep borehole (harbl), Saturday, 8 May 2021 22:49 (two years ago) link

Taken down already?

Not to take any heat off Bloomberg media or whatever, but it is my understanding that when women gain control of their fertility & reproductive agency, they overwhelmingly choose to have fewer children than was the prior norm? I thought that was widely considered a good thing for women. But that's not the same as being in charge of Bloomberg's twitter account, obviously.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Saturday, 8 May 2021 23:26 (two years ago) link

“Assimilation to US fertility norms” is a preposterous way to put it

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Sunday, 9 May 2021 00:21 (two years ago) link

not reading the article but the tweet is clearly not about reproductive freedom

lol @ labour (Left), Sunday, 9 May 2021 00:29 (two years ago) link

bestie’s gonna be okay, right? 💔 pic.twitter.com/fhT7DrQrIz

— Saturday Night Live - SNL (@nbcsnl) May 9, 2021

I'm tired of this shit

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Sunday, 9 May 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

Yikes

horseshoe, Sunday, 9 May 2021 20:32 (two years ago) link

Also regarding that Bloomberg news tweet, discussions of falling birth rates in the US and Europe always feel like crypto-white nationalism, even before it gets as blatant as that tweet.

horseshoe, Sunday, 9 May 2021 20:33 (two years ago) link

why did I make the mistake of reading the comments on that tweet? a lot of good takes screamed over by a lotta "NUH UH" tweets

Feta Van Cheese (Neanderthal), Sunday, 9 May 2021 20:36 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf1c0tEGfrU
Would hope black hair would be something people could get some kind of a clue about by nowl. But this is a subject I've seen a few webinars on over the last year. What is supposed to be acceptable in allowing somebody to look both 'professional' and attractive or whatever while at the same time I'm seeing white women with hair coloured blue or fucshia or whatever in work spaces.
Also finding places easily that can cut it properly since it seems that its outside the remit of a lot of salons.
PLus white media personaliies, pop musicians etc adopting black hairstyles seems to have a habit of undermining the legitimacy of the hairstyle for black people who do need to wear their hair in some manner that looks both fashionable and controllable.
Anyway this seemed to be a good summary of the subject.

Stevolende, Monday, 10 May 2021 23:30 (two years ago) link

the fuck is going on in that snl skit?

Draymond is "Mr Dumpy" (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 03:09 (two years ago) link

Black, primarily LBGQT, slang and AAVE being relabeled as “Gen Z-speak” and then mocked

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 04:16 (two years ago) link

Is it like an idea that was being thrown around during a writing session or something that somebody was messing around with and suggested be brought to one.
Does look like somebody was looking around at the comic possibilities of something that possibly shouldn't have gone any further than that.
Hope its not going to be something that reappears with any frequency.
Looks like it's a signifier that people are getting older if they are looking at the youth of today are all like this like tropes.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 08:44 (two years ago) link

or overly safe in their cis whiteness or token acceptance within if the caricatures come from elsewhere.

Does it change the meaning at all if those involved include people who aren't actually white or straight?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 08:49 (two years ago) link

Michael Che is taking credit for the sketch and is apparently claiming to not have heard of AAVE prior to this.

He is also the type of guy to post things on instagram and then delete them, so here:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1C6hXwX0AMohLO?format=jpg&name=medium

I don't follow SNL very closely, so I don't know Che's deal.

peace, man, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 10:00 (two years ago) link

"I don't know the right way to deal with this but it's not great that there is a whole industry now catering to "anti racist allies" which seems to have a primarily therapeutic purposes for the "anti racist" on a personal level- like this is how acknowledging your privilege will make you a better person and relieve you of your burdens etc. despite all the theatrics it's a hell of a lot easier to acknowledge one's privilege than to actually try to dismantle it and there's way too much of the former that doesn't even seem to acknowledge that the latter is also necessary"

this is true. im on a fbk group called race talk and a lot of (white) peoples posts use therapeutic language and are very into (often quite lengthy) self reflection, rather than simply contending with the actual issues, maybe as they dont quite know how, not sure. i guess they mean well, but it just reads a bit weirdly.

candyman, Tuesday, 11 May 2021 10:21 (two years ago) link


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