If you want to go/I just can't say no.
― My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2009 02:32 (fourteen years ago) link
One of the few albums by anyone that I thoroughly enjoy all the way through.
― Spencer Chow, Monday, 13 July 2009 06:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Wednesday, 22 July 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Surprised by the third-place finish for "Gangster."
― Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 23 July 2009 23:02 (fourteen years ago) link
re-poll with the actual album tracklist
― King Boy Pato Banton (sic), Friday, 24 July 2009 09:38 (fourteen years ago) link
"Idiot Wind" is the opening track, isn't it?
Bucks the New Order trend...
― Mark G, Friday, 24 July 2009 09:42 (fourteen years ago) link
"Idiot Country" even...
― Mark G, Friday, 24 July 2009 09:43 (fourteen years ago) link
lol this album is pretty boring and the one thoroughly good track didn't win
― General Pubic (Noodle Vague), Friday, 24 July 2009 09:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Yes, that'd be nice. Mind, didn't fucking Blue Monday distort the PCL poll in a similar way, or something?
― grimly fiendish, Friday, 24 July 2009 12:42 (fourteen years ago) link
This was how it was released in the U.S., and we all know America rooles.
― Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 24 July 2009 12:43 (fourteen years ago) link
Hmph. I'd have no problem with that if it was an American album ... but really, I think Manchester rules should apply ;)
― grimly fiendish, Friday, 24 July 2009 12:44 (fourteen years ago) link
Mind, that's true of most things in life.
― grimly fiendish, Friday, 24 July 2009 12:45 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm Not the Kind That Needs to Tell You Just What I Want to Do: New Order, "Power, Corruption and Lies" Poll
Not greatly, no. (xpost)
― Mark G, Friday, 24 July 2009 12:46 (fourteen years ago) link
Distortion is in the eye of the beholder ...
― grimly fiendish, Friday, 24 July 2009 12:47 (fourteen years ago) link
Didn't we do this before? I don't remember for sure, but I thought I remembered voting for "Soviet". If I'd have seen this one I'd have voted for "Soviet" again, ahead of "Idiot Country" (which also placed low here b/c of the "rap" I assume?), b/c "Soviet" remains a mix tape staple of mine. This album was such a gateway album for me to bands I ended up loving a ton, and for that alone I still rate it very highly.
― la saucisse est une femme? (Euler), Friday, 24 July 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
I rate this album highly because it's fucking awesome.
― Lisa Simpson = a fictional bitch (HI DERE), Friday, 24 July 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
prob. top 20 for me all time
― la saucisse est une femme? (Euler), Friday, 24 July 2009 16:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i like Disappointed more than anything on this
― unban dictionary (blueski), Friday, 24 July 2009 16:04 (fourteen years ago) link
It is one of the great "lost" tracks.
― Spencer Chow, Friday, 24 July 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
'Idiot Country' is by no means the runt on here, it's got terrific guitar.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 24 July 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link
Yep: this is just a fantastic album all the way through. And yeh, it sounds of its time ... but that was a time I loved musically, so hey.
― grimly fiendish, Friday, 24 July 2009 23:35 (fourteen years ago) link
"I don't know if we could get lost in a city this size if we wanted to."
This song is so great. What a title! And for a four minute song it's concise, with several different sections that don't repeat (note esp. the guitar part at just over two minutes in, & the closing part).
― Euler, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 14:58 (thirteen years ago) link
For such a simple chordal structure it's got so many unexpected production touches: chimes, choral synths, the flamenco guitar, and – the icing – that oboe part.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 15:07 (thirteen years ago) link
Album is ultramegaclassic.
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 15:19 (thirteen years ago) link
It's been weird and reassuring to realize that I wasn't the only person who thought "Some Distant Memory" was classic.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 15:29 (thirteen years ago) link
It's a total classic! People who don't like that song don't really like this album IMO.
― and by "Heavens!" i mean WATERFALLS OF BIDDY (HI DERE), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 15:31 (thirteen years ago) link
um, I don't really like this album.
I got it on day one, and went : "mmmmmmmm....."
(The singles, particularly the "Feel every beat" remixes, oh yes!)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 15:32 (thirteen years ago) link
It's so easy –why won't you leave this?Just because I've grown afraid of youI wish we were at the beginningIt would be so good to be with you
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 September 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
If we were redoing the poll I'd vote for "Some Distant Memory". I could stand to hear a 20 minute remix of it, elongating each of the gorgeous sections. The guitar section alone is like a lost beach classic.
― Euler, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 15:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Search "Free Will" on the "Message" 12".
― cee-oh-tee-tee, Tuesday, 14 September 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
ahhh - this is why I feel so at home on ILM. Shame I missed this poll, 'Some Distant Memory' and partic that oboe section is one of my favorite pieces of music in the world.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 17 September 2010 08:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Oh man, glad I'm not the only one who loves that oboe part. Just perfect, isn't it.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 17 September 2010 15:51 (thirteen years ago) link
I can never remember "Try All You Want" by name
― juggalo iglesias (HI DERE), Friday, 17 September 2010 15:54 (thirteen years ago) link
In my Roxy interview with Scott Woods, I cited that oboe part as my favorite ever.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 17 September 2010 16:06 (thirteen years ago) link
Can I mention the B-sides, all of which are wonderful in their own way? "Second To None" and its huge orchestral synth chords, and "Free Will" and its acid house nonsense -- a distant cousin to the Pet Shop Boys' "Don Juan"?
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 January 2011 02:32 (thirteen years ago) link
Can anyone work out what the vocal sample in Free Will says? "Bring the light - something?"
― orange and teal.css (I am using your worlds), Sunday, 23 January 2011 02:52 (thirteen years ago) link
I thought it said "Real life is empty," which explains why it's buried.
― Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 23 January 2011 03:17 (thirteen years ago) link
This is one of those days when "Idiot Country" is the greatest song in the world. Things to note today: the pause, whoosh & restart at 3:19, and the slightly higher key for the main key riff immediately thereafter. This song is loaded with little details like that.
― Euler, Saturday, 14 April 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link
man "Tighten Up" was robbed. classic Marr guitar on that one.
― Hoo Nu Cookies (crüt), Saturday, 14 April 2012 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
This song is loaded with little details like that.
Also: the whistling and that orchestral synth part
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 April 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link
An expanded 2 disc edition of Sumner and Marr's 1991 debut as Electronic.'Electronic' sounds a little more like New Order than the Smiths. The three singles from the album remain the highlights: "Get the Message," "Feel Every Beat" and "Getting Away with It" featuring Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys.The project has been described as a joyous venn diagram of Sumner and Marr’s influences. Although ostensibly coming from different disciplines, the experimental dance pop of New Order and the full-bodied jangle of The Smiths, their common interests were many: dance music, a good tune and pushing musical boundaries.The release includes 8 previously unreleased tracks including alternate versions, edits & instrumentals.TracklistingCD 1 1. Idiot Country (2012 - Remaster) 2. Reality (2012 - Remaster) 3. Tighten Up (2012 - Remaster) 4. The Patience Of A Saint (2012 - Remaster) 5. Getting Away With It (2012 - Remaster) 6. Gangster (2012 - Remaster) 7. Soviet (2012 - Remaster) 8. Get The Message (2012 - Remaster) 9. Try All You Want (2012 - Remaster)10. Some Distant Memory (2012 - Remaster)11. Feel Every Beat (2012 - Remaster)CD 2 1. Disappointed (Stephen Hague 7” Inch Version) (2012 remaster) 2. Second To None (Edit) Previously unreleased 3. Lean To The Inside (Edit) Previously unreleased 4. Twisted Tenderness (Guitar / Vocal Mix) Previously unreleased 5. Idiot Country Two (12” Version) 6. Free Will (Edit) Previously unreleased 7. Until The End Of Time (Edit) Previously unreleased 8. Feel Every Beat (Edit) Previously unreleased 9. Getting Away With It (Instrumental) (2012 remaster) 10. Turning Point (Edit) (2012 remaster)11. Visit Me (Edit) Previously unreleased12. Twisted Tenderness (Instrumental) Previously unreleased
'Electronic' sounds a little more like New Order than the Smiths. The three singles from the album remain the highlights: "Get the Message," "Feel Every Beat" and "Getting Away with It" featuring Neil Tennant of the Pet Shop Boys.
The project has been described as a joyous venn diagram of Sumner and Marr’s influences. Although ostensibly coming from different disciplines, the experimental dance pop of New Order and the full-bodied jangle of The Smiths, their common interests were many: dance music, a good tune and pushing musical boundaries.
The release includes 8 previously unreleased tracks including alternate versions, edits & instrumentals.
Tracklisting
CD 1 1. Idiot Country (2012 - Remaster) 2. Reality (2012 - Remaster) 3. Tighten Up (2012 - Remaster) 4. The Patience Of A Saint (2012 - Remaster) 5. Getting Away With It (2012 - Remaster) 6. Gangster (2012 - Remaster) 7. Soviet (2012 - Remaster) 8. Get The Message (2012 - Remaster) 9. Try All You Want (2012 - Remaster)10. Some Distant Memory (2012 - Remaster)11. Feel Every Beat (2012 - Remaster)
CD 2 1. Disappointed (Stephen Hague 7” Inch Version) (2012 remaster) 2. Second To None (Edit) Previously unreleased 3. Lean To The Inside (Edit) Previously unreleased 4. Twisted Tenderness (Guitar / Vocal Mix) Previously unreleased 5. Idiot Country Two (12” Version) 6. Free Will (Edit) Previously unreleased 7. Until The End Of Time (Edit) Previously unreleased 8. Feel Every Beat (Edit) Previously unreleased 9. Getting Away With It (Instrumental) (2012 remaster) 10. Turning Point (Edit) (2012 remaster)11. Visit Me (Edit) Previously unreleased12. Twisted Tenderness (Instrumental) Previously unreleased
― Mark G, Friday, 11 January 2013 09:21 (eleven years ago) link
Release date: 11/03/13
Hmmm tempting - although I would have hoped to have a super extended version of Some Distant memory amongst the bonus tracks.
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 11 January 2013 10:11 (eleven years ago) link
their B-sides are fantastic. "Second to None" is this quiet melancholic thing. "Lean to the Inside" is the ultimate TV theme.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 January 2013 02:19 (eleven years ago) link
I think this says it all:
http://www.feeleverybeat.co.uk/albums/melodymaker25may1991.jpg
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 January 2013 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
i note there's already an expanded edition on Spotify http://open.spotify.com/album/1BUrw4Xa1r4eQI6D6kz7zr
but it's a bit different
― piscesx, Monday, 21 January 2013 11:10 (eleven years ago) link
I love that review, Alfred, and quite interesting today to note his frame of references. I don't think I read it at the time (iirc my music press debut was a couple of weeks later) but I do remember Lester was still on the same riff when he reviewed Slowdive's debut later in the year. Something like: 'if anyone was going to make a better album this year than Electronic, it would be Electronic themselves ... but I secretly hoped Slowdive might somehow surprise us all'
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 21 January 2013 11:22 (eleven years ago) link
Funny how attitudes to age in pop have changed. "By rights they should be washed up, trading on former glories, a miserably uninspired pair of codgers way past their prime." Sumner was 35, Marr 27.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 21 January 2013 12:37 (eleven years ago) link
haha what a review
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 21 January 2013 12:48 (eleven years ago) link
"Getting Away With It" was one of the last songs to be released during the 80's and made for a perfect closure to the decade. Also because of that timing it came out around Christmas so I forever associate it with the holidays.
Is there another comparable song that closes out a particular era of time so well? Maybe "Good Times" by Chic?
― yesca, Monday, 11 September 2017 12:51 (six years ago) link
the end of “gangster” >>>>>
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 9 December 2017 00:02 (six years ago) link
You found this!!!
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 December 2017 00:19 (six years ago) link
'Tighten Up' fucking rules.
― Gholdfish Killah (Turrican), Saturday, 9 December 2017 09:33 (six years ago) link
this is the only album i listen to now
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 13 December 2017 05:05 (six years ago) link
my drunk album
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 July 2019 04:01 (four years ago) link
Happy 30th to "Getting Away With It" itself.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 4 December 2019 23:17 (four years ago) link
See that girlShe's over thereI don't need hershe don't care
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 July 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link
Happy thirtieth anniversary.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link
stings cousin can not sing so i like the songs he does not sing on or is not alone on!
― xzanfar, Thursday, 27 May 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link
Disappointed and Getting Away With It on the original LP release would have made this a bonafide all-time classic. I vividly recall the sound and activity of holding down the rewind button and hearing Tighten Up quickly get back to the beginning so I could hear it again. I was afraid I would break the tape I rewound it so many times. Now the opening stabs are painful to my ears, but I still love the song. I still love this album and have very fond memories of hearing GAWI on the radio for the first time and the excruciatingly long wait to get the album.
― brotherlovesdub, Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link
They are fortunately on the rerelease.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 27 May 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
It's so easywhy won't you leave this?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 December 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link
Thirty-one years young today.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 27 May 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link
technique - getting away with it - this LP - a streak of imperious form so impressive that one is even able to forgive world in motion
― lemmy incaution (emsworth), Saturday, 28 May 2022 04:37 (one year ago) link
World in Motion needs no forgiving.
― gyac, Saturday, 28 May 2022 05:20 (one year ago) link
That’s a truly baffling number of votes for ‘Gangster’!
― piscesx, Saturday, 28 May 2022 12:28 (one year ago) link
it's an open act of defiance!
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 May 2022 12:29 (one year ago) link
Gangster rules, as does the rest of this album
― castanuts (DJP), Saturday, 28 May 2022 13:11 (one year ago) link
bloody hell, i hate this bands name.makes ilm, google etc impossible to dig around for more info.anyways, have had the orig cd for years, and never really got into it as it sounds so weak and limp.then the other day i spotted a version in a local charity shop with a different cover.got home and did the usual discogs check up.had no idea re the 1993 remaster, and decided to spend the wallet busting 50p.yeah, not to get all SHF, but this is a lot better than the original cd version.it's not just louder, but better definition, seperation and cleaner/crisper.enjoying it so so much more.i guess someone realised quite soon after the original release that the cd edition just didn't sound that good, hence the very quick 'remaster'.
― mark e, Wednesday, 14 June 2023 18:24 (nine months ago) link
Look at me, I always get the blameBut I can't even learn to spell my name
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 31 July 2023 20:41 (seven months ago) link
I’d like to readI’d like to writeBut where I live I learned to fightSo don’t you ever say that we’re the same
― the new drip king (DJP), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 00:55 (seven months ago) link
otm
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 1 August 2023 01:01 (seven months ago) link
https://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2023/08/13/electronic-get-the-message-best-of-reissue/
― 龜, Monday, 14 August 2023 13:50 (seven months ago) link
Neil: "Bernard and Johnny Marr were almost outraged by the way we work. The way we work is we have a programmer who does all the typewriter tapping and he does everything himself and we hardly do anything ourselves. We kind of sit there reading piles of magazines telling people what to do or, indeed, sleeping while they're doing it. And Bernard thinks this is terribly funny and shocking. He can't get over the fact that Chris goes to sleep in the studio. When we did 'Patience Of A Saint', it was quite embarrassing trying to write with them. Chris had this chord change and then Johnny Marr put a bass line on it and I wrote a tune. It took about 10 or 15 minutes. And then it was time to go to The Hacienda..."
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 17 September 2023 15:21 (six months ago) link