POLL away the dew... Best Grateful Dead recurring live jam/transition piece

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'Chlor'quin', like the Trump-ah man
Once told me "You've got to look at the sun"
Sometimes they won't let you have any fun
If you don't have a mask

righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:16 (three years ago) link

Dick's Pick's 16 is one of my favorites cause nearly the entire show is one continuous jam with weird digressions:

Dark Star > 14:43
The Other One > 12:00
Dark Star > 1:05
Uncle John's Jam > 2:34
Dark Star 3:24
Saint Stephen > 7:01
The Eleven > 14:34
Caution > 17:43
Main Ten Jam> 3:12
Caution > 8:26
Feedback > 8:32
And We Bid You Goodnight 3:31

righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:30 (three years ago) link

I had to look that one up because my initial view of that set list had me thinking Weir and Pig must have had laryngitis or something but that just looks to be the latter half of the set.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 12:11 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I just realized that archive.org (where I took that from) is missing most of the first half of the official release.

righteous oxide (PBKR), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 13:02 (three years ago) link

Estimated > Eyes is a favorite of late

trip maker, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

Speaking of live Dead, they just announced an underwhelming reissue of Skull and Roses with a second disc pulled from 7/2/71. Kinda surprised to see this since they've always said the series of 50th anniversary reissues wasn't going to include live albums.

Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA (7/2/71)
1. GOOD LOVIN' [17:47]
2. SING ME BACK HOME [10:16]
3. MAMA TRIED [3:08]
4. CRYPTICAL ENVELOPMENT> [2:25]
5. DRUMS> [5:13]
6. THE OTHER ONE [15:51]
7. BIG BOSS MAN [5:27]
8. NOT FADE AWAY> [3:57]
9. GOIN' DOWN THE ROAD FEELING BAD [9:39]
10. NOT FADE AWAY [2:35]"

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:10 (three years ago) link

Late 80s/90s “good lovin” another good example of Bobby going off the rails vocally

calstars, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:26 (three years ago) link

doing a dive into the ‘77 performances of Help/Slip/Frank and they are absolutely stomping.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

the Dark Star at Pirates World is jolly good fun, 1970-03-24, Dania, FL.

https://archive.org/details/gd70-03-24.sbd.miller.32054.sbeok.flacf/gd70-03-24d2t01.flac

llurk, Thursday, 25 March 2021 03:34 (three years ago) link

xxxxxxxxxp I think 1st August 73 was a Jerry's birthday show. I think I noticed more of a soul influence on teh night when I was listening to it a few years ago. Used to have it on a cassette tape so that goes back several years.
JUst remember having it playing as i was on a bus through kilburn . Which is a snippet stuck in my head.
Anyway good gig.

Stevolende, Thursday, 25 March 2021 11:23 (three years ago) link

as to introduction live sets
I think Two From The Vault which is them at a peak in August 68.
Dick's Picks vol 4 which is another peak in may 70.
I guess the peak for 69 is Feb/March as utilised for Live dead and the Fillmore 69 sets.

not really sure about peak months for later years.
Do think that Veneta set that is Now Sunshine Daydream which conveniently comes with teh film as a dvd in the package.
Was listening to Pacific Northwest 3cd earlier which is good but not sure about best for year. oh yeah it spans 2 for one thing.

I meant to pick up the 50th anniversary sets but haven't done so so far.
Good to know most stuff was up at archive.org if it still is. Was stil streaming the sets that were offically released last time i looked while they had removed the ability to individually d/ld those gigs.

Stevolende, Thursday, 25 March 2021 11:30 (three years ago) link

WOW this is the best sounding AUD i think i have ever heard

https://archive.org/details/gd1975-09-28.fob.menke-falanga.motb-0069.91769.flac16/gd1975-09-28.motb.0069.d1t01.flac

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:27 (three years ago) link

Don’t have the details here in front of me but there is an audience recording of a 1971 show from Hollywood Bowl that is unreal. Super crisp and it puts you right in the belly of the beast, so to speak. Check it out.

tobo73, Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:48 (three years ago) link

8/6/71- the hard to handle on it is great, haven't listened to much of the rest because i don't dig that era too much

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:49 (three years ago) link

'71 is a tough year for me to fully love. A lot of the primal dust has shaken off by this point, but they've yet to launch into the expansive explorations that would come in '72. Which isn't to say there's not a ton of good material to be found, but there are a lot of shows that feel like two first sets instead of a first and second set flow.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

Is there a name for the extended jam they sometimes do at the end of Eyes of the World?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 25 March 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

'stronger than dirt' i think, and they always play it tremendously sloppily

someone is going into labor in the crowd in this show. music stopped while they call for a doctor. followed up by 'music never stopped' haha

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:02 (three years ago) link

I like how that 1975 show begins with two minutes of tuning and noodling so obvious that even I, a non-Deadhead, would know "oh, they're opening with "Help on the Way."

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 25 March 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

Isn't stronger than dirt a commercial jingle that teh Doors also used in places. Presumably for a domestic cleaner or bleach or something

Stevolende, Thursday, 25 March 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

This Other One Uncle Sandwich tho... https://archive.org/details/gd71-11-14.sbd.miller.23568.sbeok.shnf/gd71-11-14d2t05.shn
(killer 1st set too)

BrianB, Wednesday, 16 June 2021 03:34 (two years ago) link

bit frustrated the Mountain Goats singer introduced me to headyversion on a jamband podcast and just furthering my rabbit hole descent.

78 Unidome IA has a hot fire Scarlet/Fire and terrif The Other One

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 28 June 2021 02:19 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Gonna allow post-jerry dead incarnations in this thread as well, because this slipknot from dead & co on 9/18/21 checked all the right boxes for me: https://archive.org/details/DeadCo2021-09-18.travitz.litz.schoepsCMC64v.flac16/DeadCo2021-09-18t17.flac#

BrianB, Tuesday, 21 September 2021 03:12 (two years ago) link

I'll bite, since I was at Wrigley for both shows. That was indeed an absolutely killer "Slipknot", even if I'm loath to even try to compare this configuration to the Dead proper. But having seen Dead & Co 8 times now, I can confidently say that they have never sounded better than they did during that second set Saturday night. The band is on fire right now and locked in on a lot of levels. Yes the tempos can be slow, no it's not Jerry (and quite honestly, I think more Heads would appreciate this band if they didn't go into it expecting them to be, but that's a discussion for another time), but they have really congealed as a unit. It felt like Bobby was giving John much more leash (especially Friday night) and Jeff and Oteil are both stepping up. There was a moment during one jam where Chimenti and Mayer were locked in and sharing huge smiles, it was great.

I think the second set was a bit of a way to make up for the rain/lightning shorted first show - one set with a "China > Rider", "Estimated > Eyes" AND "Help > Slip > Frank's"? Yes, please. The only misstep is that "Days Between" was not the ballad I'd have hoped for coming out of that "Space > Milestones" jam.

Anyway, this is now likely the most words written ever on this forum about Dead & Co and will likely be the only ones, between these last two posts. :)

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link

I have never seen Dead & Co but caught my first JRAD show a couple weeks ago. Loved it. It was almost like they were teasing me by basing the second set around my least favorite subset of the Dead's repertoire - 80s Bobby songs. Set started with Feel Like a Stranger and the song they wove in and out of other tunes was Throwing Stones. But the musicianship, ideas, energy were so top notch that it was great. Plus the songs peppered in between those - Help/Slip and Shakedown St - are some of my favorites of funky Dead.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 14:07 (two years ago) link

Oh yeah, JRAD are fucking phenomenal. I hope to get to see them live soon. They can stretch out the least likely, most hated 80s songs and take them in fascinating directions. Like, I wouldn't be surprised if they could turn a "Day Job > Samba in the Rain" into an absolute half-hour gem.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 14:16 (two years ago) link

Do SBDs float around for these shows?

also lol in the recording reviews:

Reviewer: Devil's Friend - ★☆☆☆☆ - September 20, 2021
Subject: Balloons and Barking
Where's the recording of you wrecking Death Don't Have No Mercy for everyone in your section at Noblesville? I asked you to STFU before things escalated. Idiot. For a dude that tapes and probably goes to a lot of shows, you are most "unDeadhead". You came across like a man-baby fighting with seat neighbors over a BALLOON. Your woman looked completely ashamed and embarrassed by you. She deserves better.

ヽ(´ー`)┌ (CompuPost), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link

lol tapers

At the JRAD show I went to they played Comfortably Numb - as best as I could tell it was a debut? I read somewhere that they played an all-Floyd set at a festival or something, so probably it grew from there, but couldn't find any indication that it had been played at a regular show. Anyway, after that funk melange of all those songs I listed above, second set ended with Comfortably Numb>Morning Dew. They got all the soaring guitar heroics out of the way in Comfortably Numb so they then took Morning Dew in a totally different direction, with a funky, rhythmic guitar/keys duet. It was unique and super cool. Here's the full setlist: https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/joe-russos-almost-dead/2021/westville-music-bowl-new-haven-ct-438cc777.html

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 22 September 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

Do SBDs float around for these shows?

I mean, I'm sure they do. I just wait for them to show up on the Relisten app or site (highly recommended for Phish, Dead and JRAD too!) and listen from there. Definitely not SBD, but surprisingly decent quality for the most part (I know the said 9/18/21 show is up there and sounds good). You can pay for SBD from nugs(dot)net if that is your thing though.

I cannot recommend the Relisten app enough though, if you are into this stuff.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 22 September 2021 14:32 (two years ago) link

I haven't listened to much jrad but their guitarist's sets with kruetzmann & billy strings at red rocks definitely piqued my interest.

BrianB, Thursday, 23 September 2021 02:10 (two years ago) link

Yep guitarist (Tom Hamilton) is great, and Joe Russo (drums) and Marco Benevento (keys) have been playing together in various configurations for 20 years or more, I think, and are both masters. Benevento has a lot of tricks up his sleeve that I haven't heard in other Dead-adjacent projects. They can get very jazzy.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 23 September 2021 13:58 (two years ago) link

Yeah I first saw Russo and Benevento when they toured as GRAB with Trey and Mike from Phish about fifteen years ago, they were pretty good then but I've grown to like them even more since.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 September 2021 14:07 (two years ago) link

Between Billy & The Kids and the Dead & Co tour, 2021 was a great summer of new shows for old deadheads, I only made it to Pine Knob for Dead & Co, but listened to almost every show of this tour when it came up on the archive and I watched most of the free set openers on nugs to get a feel for the scenes. I went to Wrigley in '17 and '19 so I didn't mind missing that so much, but I really wish I'd gone to Blossom and Deer Creek on this truly special tour. Oh well, summertime done come and gone my oh my!

BrianB, Thursday, 23 September 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link

I get that Wrigley may not be the ideal setting for a show, but I've grown to like it and appreciate it - easy access, plenty of food and drink options nearby for before and after a show. As opposed to Alpine Valley with no convenient non-venue places to meet up, sitting in a parking lot for two hours after a show and either springing for overpriced hotels (which still aren't even within walking distance of the venue, so you still need to either drive or arrange for transportation) or making sure you have a sober group member to drive every back home late in the night.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 23 September 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link

I loved seeing them at Wrigley, as a Cubs fan it was amazing to dance in the stands and go out onto the field, to experience the friendly confines with a extra dose of kindness. But Deer Creek was the only place I got to see Jerry ('93) so I was thinking it would be cool to go back there again, I was just too worried about Covid - but I would've risked it for that second set had I known: Sugaree>Dark Star>St. Stephen>Eleven>Drums>Space>Dark Star>Death Don't Have No Mercy!

BrianB, Thursday, 23 September 2021 14:54 (two years ago) link


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