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so a couple of catch up questions: did hastings ever account for taking the laptop into that dodgy place?

is it a bit… weird that no one has wondered if carl banks is related to lee banks from S5? or have i missed something?

also it’s odd that if buckell and/or davidson were responsible for the initial delay in responding the previous evening that anything that needed sorting out could be sorted out then rather than requiring a staged armed robbery to delay temporarily.

lost my faith in mercurio to close gaps a bit in S5, but normally he’s good at accounting for these and usually they are v much part of the tortuous design.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link

I questioned the Lee Banks/Carl Banks connection when watching it. There is a history of repeated names in this show - another Hargreaves as a social worker iirc? as well as all the Janes - and we still don't know for sure why Hastings did visit Lee Banks unless it was indeed to rat him out.

kinder, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

didn't hastings do that with the laptop because he'd looked at porn on it and was worried that jesus could still see the cookies or something?

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:59 (three years ago) link

Yep, when he was being interviewed he said the reason he'd destroyed it was because he'd been using it for porn

groovypanda, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 07:50 (three years ago) link

thought this was a decent first episode though i did have to look things up after i'd watched it because i forget whether or not certain people had been featured before (farida and buckells i'd both pretty much forgotten about)

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:34 (three years ago) link

i also have no recollection of Terry Boyle being in the first season of the show as well as season 5

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:36 (three years ago) link

i also don't have the excuse of having watched these years ago because i watched all of the previous seasons in 2019

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 16:37 (three years ago) link

I think Terry Boyle was played by a different actor in season 1. Does his freezer which has mysteriously gone missing still have Jackie Laverty in it then? Assume Ryan is involved somehow, and yeah, odd that no-one spotted the Banks connection.

ailsa, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link

oh of course that's what that was all about, i guess i didn't do enough research

《Myst1kOblivi0n》 (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

Parts of Laverty were found with Corbett's body last season but not sure if that was all of her xp

groovypanda, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 19:11 (three years ago) link

I remembered enough to know it was a different actor in S1&2 and that there were still some body parts in the freezer. I'm sure it was a different flat too, though I guess the freezer could easily have travelled with him (and its occupant).

It seems almost beside the point to say this was mostly terrible, right? I'm here for the long haul, obvs.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 20:03 (three years ago) link

ya that's what I meant when I said things in appliances.
There's a bit of a different vibe this series I think but most likely due to covid restrictions when filming? Read an interview about how they dealt with that halfway through filming.

kinder, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

Lol I did have a thought during the forensics scenes, like, are they going to set half the series in situations where all the characters are wearing masks for diegetic reasons

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

Read an interview about how they dealt with that halfway through filming.
Do you have a link for this?

I seem to have forgotten nearly everything from S4 and S5.

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:33 (three years ago) link

https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/drama/line-of-duty-jed-mercurio-h-big-rt-interview/

Glad it's not just me that can't remember anything! Tbf there are a lot of details in this show.

kinder, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

i enjoyed series 2 and then never watched any more so I'm hoping they'll repeat them again.

koogs, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link

Cheers for that, Kinder

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

My wife is catching up on series 5 and I'm tagging along though I haven't seen any others. If I had a drink for every time I heard the phrase "bent coppers" I'd need medical attention.

Ignore the neighsayers: grow a lemon tree (ledge), Saturday, 27 March 2021 11:47 (three years ago) link

series 5 is just bad. which is a shame because the rest was incredibly tight. and yes lol at kate’s undercover “fancy a quick pint of corruption down the local, boss?” and steve’s vacant concentrated frown and the slightly uneasy use of “mate” with everyone. but the plotting was really tight. and give it just went all to shit. so now in six mercurio’s got to somehow tie up 1-5 and retrieve 5 imo. totally here for it ofc.

Fizzles, Saturday, 27 March 2021 22:17 (three years ago) link

ted was MVP of this episode

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 28 March 2021 21:46 (three years ago) link

He always is.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Sunday, 28 March 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link

Also this was the episode where they said the name of the show! Always a highlight.

kinder, Sunday, 28 March 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

i feel like they even did a little camera move when he said it too :D

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 28 March 2021 21:53 (three years ago) link

And we had a "bent coppers" from Hastings too

The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Sunday, 28 March 2021 21:57 (three years ago) link

oh yeah we did. he wound up for that that one. set it up, planted his feet - THWACK

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 28 March 2021 21:58 (three years ago) link

So my o/h's view is that the bookie van delay is a red herring and possibly genuine, the real delay was Buckells saying the night before not to investigate it (after discussing with someone above him, 'the SFC', who wanted to wait for executive sign-off). Not sure why that hasn't come up.

It is a running theme in LOD that there's a random element that puts some sort of coincidence that sets something off at a tangent. Denton on duty (I think?), Danny Waldron coming face-to-face with his abuser, the Huntley/Ifield fight.

I keep thinking Chris Lomax is the grown-up Ryan instead of the real Ryan. Bet there's something dodgy there.

kinder, Sunday, 28 March 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

Ted only interested in bent coppers *and* "in the line of duty" = Mercurio knows about LoD drinking games and is playing everyone.

Bit *too* heavy on the "have we all being paying attention to the last five seasons, boys and girls?", I thought, but hey, it's what we're here for. Especially Buckells post-Steve visit standing silently in front of a picture of a man playing golf (CADDY GUYS DO YOU SEE??) was a bit much, but it's all part of the fun.

ailsa, Sunday, 28 March 2021 22:06 (three years ago) link

Lomax and Vicky McClure were in a drama about their abusive relationship (he was a toxic boyfriend) hence I don't trust him.

kinder, Sunday, 28 March 2021 22:08 (three years ago) link

Enjoying this season so far, hopefully it doesn't fall down the "balaclava men storm the police station" or "actually Organised Crime is the name of my dog" holes that pervade post-S2 LoD.

Giving Hastings a whole monologue of Irishisms while Arnott stands there was some blatant fan service but why not

Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Monday, 29 March 2021 01:22 (three years ago) link

series 5 is just bad

The last two episodes, with the extended interviews with Hastings and the revelation about Biggeloe, were great, though it's not H it's morse code for four was just stupid. John Corbett was a good character I thought, even with his idée fixe on 'bent coppers' and the fact that one out of three sentences out of his mouth were incomprehensible.

I didn't understand how they had screenshots of the encrypted chat, where they spotted 'definately', when previously they said they only had metadata.

Ignore the neighsayers: grow a lemon tree (ledge), Monday, 29 March 2021 07:41 (three years ago) link

Good job with the spoiler tags there ledge.

Ignore the neighsayers: grow a lemon tree (ledge), Monday, 29 March 2021 07:41 (three years ago) link

you need to get [ h ] involved there, fella

kinder, Monday, 29 March 2021 08:36 (three years ago) link

is there a snappier way to yell at the screen 'obviously Dot isn't referring to Hastings as he didn't indicate 'a' as the second letter of the name!!'?
Watching the last ep of s5 wasn't me at my most articulate

kinder, Monday, 29 March 2021 08:38 (three years ago) link

you need to get [ h ] involved there, fella

Quality joke.

trishyb, Monday, 29 March 2021 08:40 (three years ago) link

And we had a "bent coppers" from Hastings too

― The Rampaging Goats of Llandudno (Nasty, Brutish & Short)

We high fived.

chap, Monday, 29 March 2021 09:27 (three years ago) link

The voice on the murdered journalist's recovered audio file sounded very much like Jimmy Lakewell, the dodgy solicitor from Series 4, played by Patrick Baladi.

Portsmouth Bubblejet, Monday, 29 March 2021 10:10 (three years ago) link

BUCKLES

mark s, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

he's a criminal mastermind imo

mark s, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link

_series 5 is just bad_

The last two episodes, with the extended interviews with Hastings and the revelation about (-Biggeloe-), were great, though (-it's not H it's morse code for four-) was just stupid. John Corbett was a good character I thought, even with his idée fixe on 'bent coppers' and the fact that one out of three sentences out of his mouth were incomprehensible.

I didn't understand how they had screenshots of the encrypted chat, where they spotted 'definately', when previously they said they only had metadata.


yeah this is all fair actually. and interviews are *always* great. it’s like a microgenre they’ve just perfected. incredible.

bad was

dot dot dot ffs
porn computer (to this day i assumed that the porn thing was a lie - it was totally poor misdirection if not)
definately


there was more i’m sure.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link

one very weird thing during the kelly interview: steve said to her "here's the sightline of the van outside the bookies" but the photo was from some high camera angle looking down slantwise at the street, and nothing like the sightline she'd have had -- not even sure how AC12 wd have got that picture unless steve climbed a lamp-post or operated a drone

mark s, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:05 (three years ago) link

There was a handily placed security cam shown in ep 1, and I'd take the photo to be demonstrating the line of sight, not replicating it.

Ignore the neighsayers: grow a lemon tree (ledge), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:16 (three years ago) link

i had the same thought. it would have been better for illustration purposes if they'd got a similar model car, put it where her car would have been, got a transit van, put it in front of the bookies, and taken a photo of it from the car. but possibly that type of "as if" isn't considered evidence - they may have needed an actual photo from the day and a CCTV still was the closest thing they could get.

xpost or what ledge said

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:19 (three years ago) link

oh yes they mentioned a cam didn't they, fair enough

but to make the point (that no way cd she see the van well) they p much need to replicate the line of sight (which would be very easy to do!)

mark s, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

have to say their paperwork is always superbly in order in the powerpoint displays

― mark s, Monday, 15 April 2019 11:01 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

"let's undermine our usual tropes!"
"in a clever way?"
"no!"

― mark s, Monday, 15 April 2019 10:17 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

mark s, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

it's not evidence for a court it's evidence for pressure in the interview

mark s, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link

yeah i'm just speculatin'

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:23 (three years ago) link

BUCKLES


SPOILER

i did v much enjoy his use of the word “pigging” in ep2

Fizzles, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:24 (three years ago) link

me too :D

mark s, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:25 (three years ago) link

lol

Fizzles, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

looking up to see if that usage is regional (making buckells possibly the only midlander on this midlands force) or just borrowed from earlier TV as i suspect, i found the story "peppa pig talk my daughter the F-word"

mark s, Tuesday, 30 March 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link


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