NCAA Hoops 2018-2019

iowa, purdue, and ohio state losing isn't shocking. illinois losing kinda was.

the big ten was vastly overseeded, especially iowa and their completely shambolic defense, i agree, but i think it is once again a fool's errand to judge an entire conference's quality based on the small sample size of the ncaa tournament.

lemme revise, ohio state losing to oral roberts was shocking, but ohio state losing early was not.

basically all random

there's more parity now than a few decades ago, but "all random" is just plain wrong when you're talking about a game that requires such high levels of skill.

just plain wrong

the concept of 'randomness' is hard for humans to grasp

ok!

there's a lot of luck involved, but it's hardly random

it's not all random, but the sample size is so small that anything can happen. isn't that why we love it so?

it's inevitable that the a conference like the big ten crapping out in the only tournament most people pay attention to will draw some overreactions, and yeah maybe they do deserve to be overreacted to in this case. but you also gotta overreact to rutgers, maryland, and wisconsin outperforming expectations.

it's not all random, but the sample size is so small that anything can happen. isn't that why we love it so?

― voodoo chili, Monday, March 22, 2021 2:56 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

there is a huge degree of randomness in a single elimination tournament this is not that hard to understand, it is in fact the whole reason why march madness is once of the most popular sporting events there is

i was agreeing with you, mostly. i do think that the crowning of a champion is ultimately less random and the teams that wind up winning it all tend to be teams that were very good all year long

i know you were agreeing with me, but qualifying the randomness with a cohort of good teams will tend to beat the cohort of not good teams is what you do when any individual contest has a high degree of randomness

there is a huge degree of randomness in a single elimination tournament this is not that hard to understand, it is in fact the whole reason why march madness is once of the most popular sporting events there is

― lag∞n, Monday, March 22, 2021 2:57 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

tho tbf the shear number of games is also a big part of it

jalen suggs from gonzaga might be better than cunningham. he looks like he could be a better version of klay thompson

suggs is a creator

if he was 6-8 with 7ft arms he wld def be going ahead of cade

as far as flaws in cade’s game go... hard to know what this means based off one season of college play tho

As great as Cade Cunningham has been from 3-point range as a freshman (40%), his 47% shooting inside the arc is on the low side for an NBA-bound guard. We're seeing that issue tonight as Cunningham is 2-of-6 on 2-point attempts.

— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) March 22, 2021

yeah also his team was not talented so defenses could really load up on his drives, but on the other hand its true he doesnt look like a naturally dominant scorer off the bounce

i think you could say the same for tatum kawhi paul george etc

yeah you're hoping he evolves like those guys did

he seems really smart and good at developing basketball skills i can see why teams wld be willing to be on him

going to be fun debating cade/suggs/green etc. for a couple months.

gonzaga is so good

going to be fun debating cade/suggs/green etc. for a couple months.

― call all destroyer, Monday, March 22, 2021 2:56 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

evan mobley plays later today, too

if it's a 4-player draft, Minny's pick being top 3 protected is huge. Either they get a great player or the Warriors do

might be closer to a 5 player draft

even higher draft lottery stakes then. poor wolves fans

it's pretty much destiny that GSW will get a great player with our pick

Driving around to deliver a computer at work, Doug Gottlieb on the radio I thought had a pretty good take on the B10 failures. Gottlieb stated that the B10 pretty much all the teams play a standard 5 with a center style offense and he thinks they were not really prepared to defend the perimeter as so many schools now play the spread the floor look for a 3 type offense.

Dunno if that's valid or not but Illinois' problem was they couldn't handle pick n roll. Loyola only made 4 3s on them.

big ten teams all choking but michigan moving on is basically my ideal outcome as a u-m fan

re: illinois, it felt a combination of bad coaching, dosunmu laying an egg, and human adonis kofi cockburn getting sonned by off-duty plumber cameron krutwig

Iowa seemed occupied with being horrible today

https://twitter.com/marchmadness/status/1374813738260369408

Just watched a replay of Loyola/Illinois, Krutwig is so fun to watch

Loyola is an 8 seed. Oregon State is a 12 seed which was picked to finish dead last in the PAC-12 this year, but instead is in the Sweet Sixteen. Why do I have no doubt that CBS will play up Loyola as the lovable underdog?

Congratulations, Beavers! Go, Ducks!

what are the stereotypes surrounding oregon vs. oregon state?

in the broadest terms U of Oregon is Niketown, with Phil Knight as Sugar Daddy bankrolling the program's high ambitions, while Oregon State has to recruit into podunk Corvallis and find overachievers and overlooked talent in order to compete.

Local gocery outlet onve had surplus ou and osu ice cream. Playing both sides.

xp ty

is eugene actually flashier than corvallis, or is it just nike money?

feel like a big beavers problem is that they're third on the list of OSUs behind ohio state and ok state, but maybe that's just eastern bias

lol at gamecocks fans expecting USC to stand for them before the trojans tho

eugene is no los angeles or san francisco , but there's no question that it is flashier than corvallis

do a lot of portlanders casually cheer on both teams?

as rivalries go, it's a friendly one

I'd pick Jalen Suggs over Cade.

Skill levels are comparable, but Suggs wins out because of his motor.

Cade is just (seemingly) passive enough to make me worry that he won't have the impact he *should* have.

Florida State shat the bed.

if by shat the bed you mean got out-executed by a much better team, then sure

I was thinking more along the lines of at least half a dozen unforced turnovers, silly fouls, and missing a ton of wide open threes. But, taking all those into consideration, it is more than fair to say Michigan out-executed them.

do a lot of portlanders casually cheer on both teams?

― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym)

i'd echo aimless in that UofO/OSU is rarely a bitter thing, but statewide there's a pretty pronounced urban/rural divide (UofO being a classic lib arts campus while OSU is historically more of an agricultural school, tho it's transitioned to a lot of biotech etc type in-demand sciences in recent decades)