took difficult off the dribble looks too
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link
i wld say if theres one knock on him its that he might not be a true 1A scorer, might not quite have that true bucket getting instinct thats gonna get him into the top 5 scorers
he was a point guard in high school, he looks to create first. he can take over with his scoring when he wants to, but i think he's better when he works within the flow of the game and doesn't try to force his own shot.
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link
cade is basically what michael porter jr. would've been in college if he didn't get hurt
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 16:41 (three years ago) link
naw porter is savant shooter and otherwise pretty clueless, cade plays like 7 year nba vet
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 16:43 (three years ago) link
his playmaking is crazy, watching a 6-8 freshman run the pick and roll like nba point guard is wild
tru, porter doesn't have the mental game, just the ridiculous range and mobility for his size
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 16:48 (three years ago) link
i admire iowa's dedication to playing absolutely no defense at all
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link
defense is lame
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:14 (three years ago) link
they've pioneered the art of the "reverse close-out," when they move away from the shooter as he puts it up
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:27 (three years ago) link
deep psychological tactic
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, March 22, 2021 12:43 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah didn't catch the whole game but he's extremely polished and should be decent right away. doesn't look like a top-end athlete so he might not be a superstar but surely "a pick you can feel good about" halliburton style.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link
he has good athleticism, absolute top end athleticism is great but its not like you need it to succeed in the nba, as far as physical profile hes pretty much exactly like jayson tatum
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link
the nba has messed with my brain so I keep turning on these games and expecting teams to have unintuitive uniform colors, but, no, they’re pretty much what i’d expect.
― circles, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link
Maybe not the best idea to have all 5 players crash the offensive glass? pic.twitter.com/pkYd9gcGwx— Eric Shapiro (@eric_shap) March 22, 2021
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link
not sure how i feel about this post-pandemic world where west coast basketball is 'good'
― mookieproof, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:25 (three years ago) link
Still have to knock out Iowa, Michigan, Rutgers and Wisconsin.
The NCAA seeding committee put eight Big 10 teams in the tournament and predicted that five would advance to the Sweet Sixteen. Four of them lost their first game. Three lost their second game. Only Michigan is still alive and they still have to win their second game to advance.
It's not so much that the Big 10 is bad, but they were greatly overrated.
talkin a lot of crap for a guy whose team got a covid bye
whatcha think now?
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link
iowa, purdue, and ohio state losing isn't shocking. illinois losing kinda was.
the big ten was vastly overseeded, especially iowa and their completely shambolic defense, i agree, but i think it is once again a fool's errand to judge an entire conference's quality based on the small sample size of the ncaa tournament.
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:32 (three years ago) link
lemme revise, ohio state losing to oral roberts was shocking, but ohio state losing early was not.
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:33 (three years ago) link
basically all random
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
there's more parity now than a few decades ago, but "all random" is just plain wrong when you're talking about a game that requires such high levels of skill.
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:49 (three years ago) link
just plain wrong
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:53 (three years ago) link
the concept of 'randomness' is hard for humans to grasp
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link
ok!
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
there's a lot of luck involved, but it's hardly random
― mookieproof, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
it's not all random, but the sample size is so small that anything can happen. isn't that why we love it so?
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:56 (three years ago) link
it's inevitable that the a conference like the big ten crapping out in the only tournament most people pay attention to will draw some overreactions, and yeah maybe they do deserve to be overreacted to in this case. but you also gotta overreact to rutgers, maryland, and wisconsin outperforming expectations.
― voodoo chili, Monday, March 22, 2021 2:56 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
there is a huge degree of randomness in a single elimination tournament this is not that hard to understand, it is in fact the whole reason why march madness is once of the most popular sporting events there is
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link
i was agreeing with you, mostly. i do think that the crowning of a champion is ultimately less random and the teams that wind up winning it all tend to be teams that were very good all year long
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link
i know you were agreeing with me, but qualifying the randomness with a cohort of good teams will tend to beat the cohort of not good teams is what you do when any individual contest has a high degree of randomness
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link
― lag∞n, Monday, March 22, 2021 2:57 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
tho tbf the shear number of games is also a big part of it
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link
jalen suggs from gonzaga might be better than cunningham. he looks like he could be a better version of klay thompson
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 March 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link
suggs is a creator
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:21 (three years ago) link
if he was 6-8 with 7ft arms he wld def be going ahead of cade
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link
as far as flaws in cade’s game go... hard to know what this means based off one season of college play tho
As great as Cade Cunningham has been from 3-point range as a freshman (40%), his 47% shooting inside the arc is on the low side for an NBA-bound guard. We're seeing that issue tonight as Cunningham is 2-of-6 on 2-point attempts.— Kevin Pelton (@kpelton) March 22, 2021
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 March 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link
yeah also his team was not talented so defenses could really load up on his drives, but on the other hand its true he doesnt look like a naturally dominant scorer off the bounce
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:32 (three years ago) link
i think you could say the same for tatum kawhi paul george etc
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:33 (three years ago) link
yeah you're hoping he evolves like those guys did
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link
he seems really smart and good at developing basketball skills i can see why teams wld be willing to be on him
― lag∞n, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:51 (three years ago) link
going to be fun debating cade/suggs/green etc. for a couple months.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link
gonzaga is so good
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 March 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link
― call all destroyer, Monday, March 22, 2021 2:56 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
evan mobley plays later today, too
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link
if it's a 4-player draft, Minny's pick being top 3 protected is huge. Either they get a great player or the Warriors do
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 22 March 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link
might be closer to a 5 player draft
― J0rdan S., Monday, 22 March 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link
even higher draft lottery stakes then. poor wolves fans
― Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Monday, 22 March 2021 23:28 (three years ago) link
it's pretty much destiny that GSW will get a great player with our pick
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 March 2021 23:40 (three years ago) link
Driving around to deliver a computer at work, Doug Gottlieb on the radio I thought had a pretty good take on the B10 failures. Gottlieb stated that the B10 pretty much all the teams play a standard 5 with a center style offense and he thinks they were not really prepared to defend the perimeter as so many schools now play the spread the floor look for a 3 type offense.
― earlnash, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 00:30 (three years ago) link
Dunno if that's valid or not but Illinois' problem was they couldn't handle pick n roll. Loyola only made 4 3s on them.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
big ten teams all choking but michigan moving on is basically my ideal outcome as a u-m fan
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 03:21 (three years ago) link
re: illinois, it felt a combination of bad coaching, dosunmu laying an egg, and human adonis kofi cockburn getting sonned by off-duty plumber cameron krutwig
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 03:23 (three years ago) link
Iowa seemed occupied with being horrible today
― Ira Einhorn (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 03:42 (three years ago) link