rolling #metoo thread for sexual harassment in the music industry so no one misses out when artists we don't give a fuck about like Tim Westwood and Bassnectar get caught

method acting must be stopped

"Sean has a lot to apologize for" does not seem a promising start from a person ostensibly defending Har Mar.

Middleditch def. seems like he's into a lot of wild sex stuff,

"Sean has a lot to apologize for" does not seem a promising start from a person ostensibly defending Har Mar.

It also seems potentially shitty to publicly share a private text from (and name) someone who sounds like they absolutely will not defend Har Mar publicly, and is prepared to denounce him once he hears the other side of / some more accusations, and is responding to someone going 'ayo bro looks like pitchforks are out for anyone who's ever "sexualised a chick",' and specifically asked for this not to be shared while he waits to hear from / speak to more people. He's not typing "yah shit's fucked bro, you can't even honk a titty anymore," he's saying "out of respect for [HMSS's] fiancee as a survivor and my friend I am standing by her privately for now, with multiple caveats."

"I've texted with a bandmate of Har Mar's who doesn't want to say anything on the record but is choosing to believe [Sean and fiancee], which I think is pissweak" would be more than fair as a way of expressing disdain.

#1 it wasn't a text they are just DMing random people on social media

#2 one of the other things is a forcing a woman to give him oral sex

and that's not the last of it

also they are trying to focus on one woman, the least worse of the allegations, they've threatened her with lawyers as mr. open minded refers to and are hoping they can paint her as crazy and threaten the others with cease and desist

If bandmate dude does know all that and is actively covering up / doing damage control, I figure it'll come out soon enough and he can be appropriately publicly shamed / these DMs revealed then. If he really is holding off on public comment until he finds out more (since it sounds like he's kinda prepared for another dozen shoes to drop), it's possible that him coming out against Har Mar in the future will have less weight if arseholes can act like he's been "wokescolded" into changing his position.

On the other hand, the woman in the Middleditch dancefloor incident has dropped (some of?) his full apology DMs.

you don't get it

ums otm, sic please take a big step backwards right now

bummed about the Har Mar thing, I legitimately like him but I'm not surprised

not much of a defense obv but he's struggled pretty hard with alcohol, both times I saw him in 2009 he was a huge mess. if these allegations are recent I'd be pretty shocked

I'll put it this way, there are tons of stories about him out there. not so much about sexual assault but about him getting his ass kicked. in retrospect this may have been because he was trying to sexually assault someone

Middleditch and his fucking Silicon Valley idiot bros were called out for creating a toxic environment some time ago. This doesn’t surprise me at all.

― beamish13, Sunday, March 21, 2021 3:52 PM (six hours ago)

all of them, or just him and the guy that got kicked off the show for being the king of douchebros?

Alice Wetterlund called out "pretty much everyone who had any power on that (almost all male) set, including the male cast members" for being complicit in Miller's behaviour. idk if there's anything beyond that about Nanjiani, Starr or Woods specifically creating a toxic environment.

(Although (Between scenes, the group can usually be found playing Xbox in a grungy lounge, which they've facetiously dubbed "the bone zone.")

Isn't Xbone what dorks call the Xbox?

Tried to warn you all about Middleditch but noooooo not everyone’s favorite tinyman who looks like he lives in a clock!

— Alice Wetterlund (@alicewetterlund) March 21, 2021

Wetterlund in other replies clarifying that her experience was of being singled out & treated with cruelty, citing Kumail as pretty much the worst person she’s ever worked with, and excluding Jimmy O. Yang from all this.

what a relief! Hot Dog!

the middleditch interview where he just volunteered that he sprung an open marriage on his wife directly after they got married, and also shit on social media (that i can't find currently) about how he loves getting in women's DMs on insta were red flags, id imagine there may be more to come about him

the middleditch interview where he just volunteered that he sprung an open marriage on his wife directly after they got married

"...until forever do you part?" "You mean like when I leave the house? Yeah sure." "Hey wait."

I know it’s OT but how “goth” is this club if Diplo DJs, improv nerds go there and it’s in the back of a bar called Pig and Whistle?

I was just telling Maura that the idea of an LA goth club trying to recreate the 45 Grave era sounds pretty cool but it ultimately sounds like it’s a bunch of Dave Navarro shit

why is "goth" a proper noun in the LA times style guide...

https://i.redd.it/p2ckdffvh4351.jpg

https://www.austinchronicle.com/binary/36d2/Nathan.jpg

I'm still back on the African-American member who wanted the dudes who were trying to emulate Christian Death to support Black Lives Matter

I know it’s OT but how “goth” is this club if Diplo DJs, improv nerds go there and it’s in the back of a bar called Pig and Whistle?

You should be asking yourself more about why there's an 'Old Hollywood' 'English pub' in LA, and then remember it's LA and thus of course that would exist and of course there'd also be a goth club there because there could just as easily be something else entirely there too, and probably is.

Honestly I'm just more surprised it wasn't at the Cat & Fiddle instead, aka Morrissey's long-standing haunt.

The Cat & Fiddle didn't exist at the time, tbf.

but it ultimately sounds like it’s a bunch of Dave Navarro shit

"You are all examples of the Goth Mas Mentality"

xpost True enough!

ultimately sounds like it’s a bunch of Dave Navarro shit

everything in la can basically be divided between that which is dave navarro shit (roughly 83 percent of the city), that which is steve aoki shit (16 percent) and in-n-out franchises (1 percent).

Meantime

We support victims of all sexual and emotional abuse. We will no longer be working with Har Mar Superstar in the future. We will dismantle any promotion of his new record on our social media platforms and strive to be part of a better future for our music community.

— Mid City Studio (@MidCityStudioMN) March 22, 2021

why is "goth" a proper noun in the LA times style guide...

― J0rdan S., Monday, March 22, 2021 2:50 PM (fifty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

perhaps this was a club dedicated to the germanic tribe that raided the roman empire in the 4th century?

The Har Mar stuff is amazing.

“We are shocked to learn the guy who does the underpants R&B minstrel show is problematic”

It does seem like Midnite Vultures and its ilk (from cis men, anyway) is the opposite of our times in every way.

I mean, people *were* calling out Midnite Vultures and Har Mar back in the day iirc but yeah, that shit would definitely not fly today

I think Har Mar got a pass because so many people assumed it was just a character. wasn't his breakthrough on Jimmy Kimmel or something?

oh frogbspaws

everything in la can basically be divided between that which is dave navarro shit (roughly 83 percent of the city), that which is steve aoki shit (16 percent) and in-n-out franchises (1 percent).

someone get a mic on Geddy Lee

lol steve aoki's pizza restaurant

Wait, what's wrong with Midnite Vultures aside from being mediocre Prince cosplay?

check yr facts, cuz!

i hang my head in fact checking shame. i should never have tried franchising myself.

Just saying the “tweak my nipple” come-ons are more off-putting than turn-on-ing, even in a “lol but I don’t really have a libido” situation.

this post aged well. #harmarsuperstar pic.twitter.com/3fUP8VVlWB

— danae o’rourke (@danaeorourke) March 21, 2021

I'm not recommending it, but Har Mar's previous incarnation was Sean Na Na, the album My Majesty was incredibly toxic and misogynistic and ugly, and some of it is real striking in retrospect (tw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt79gRy2nzM

always hated that band and him and everyone who liked them back in the day. I've liked my share of people who turned out to be shitty but at least I don't have this skeleton in my music collection.

Har Mar was just on the Best Show talking about working as a mail man during lockdown.

oh frogbspaws

― bruce spr!ngisH3r3 (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, March 22, 2021 5:03 PM

was that 'weak'

Did we not determine that sic misunderstood my “weak”