Which film critics do you trust (if any?)

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good riddance

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Saturday, 20 March 2021 15:33 (three years ago) link

This 2004 interview with Owen Gleiberman, freshly reposted to rockcritics.com, is a great read: https://rockcritics.com/2021/03/29/from-the-archives-interview-with-owen-gleiberman-2004/

edited for dog profanity (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 22:22 (three years ago) link

Wells attributed those views to unnamed "friendos" with whom he says he conversed.

grounds for expulsion on its own imo

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 30 March 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Danny Slaski

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWxrHz-JORE

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Friday, 11 March 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link

ten months pass...

Oh man, I don't know which one comes out worse in this one ...

Without a doubt, the words of a lunatic.

Only a mentally deranged person would use the phrase “quotidian sads” pic.twitter.com/YoUYq6yxjY

— John Magary (@JohnMagary) January 27, 2023

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 27 January 2023 11:42 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

A.O. Scott signs off as NYT film critic:

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/17/movies/film-critic-ao-scott.html

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Friday, 17 March 2023 10:48 (one year ago) link

Hmm I see..

AO Scott on leaving his post at NYT as film critic pic.twitter.com/u8kk6ZZKL5

— @gdess (@GDess) March 17, 2023

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 18 March 2023 11:47 (one year ago) link

two months pass...

Rereading passages of The Press Gang and realizing that Cheshire and White, in particular, were probably my biggest formative-years guiding lights, alongside Rosenbaum

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 18:37 (ten months ago) link

I had to look up Cheshire, don't know him at all. (Also googled "film critic named White"--duh.) Cheshire's Wikipedia entry says GF II was on his 2012 S&S ballot. Condolences.

clemenza, Sunday, 11 June 2023 20:03 (ten months ago) link

Both his and (especially) White’s S&S lists are almost reactionarily conservative, compared to their critical stances in the 90s, but at least Close-Up is on Cheshire’s list too

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 11 June 2023 23:02 (ten months ago) link

Tarantino:

Today, I don't know anyone. Is it my fault? Theirs? What remains are website names: CinemaBlend, Deadline. I am told: “There are still good critics.” And I always answer: who? I say this without sarcasm. I'm told, "Manohla Dargis [of the New York Times], she's excellent." But when I ask what are the three movies she loved and the three she hated in the last few years, no one can answer me. Because they don't care! OK, if The New York Times is at my disposal then I’ll open it, read it, but that's it. I used to know a critics style of writing, their tastes, intimately! The sad reality is that today, the voice of Manohla Dargis – and it's nothing against her – doesn't matter enough for me to read her opinion on “Notes on a Scandal” or the fourth Transformers.

I get his point, in that no single critic now has the cultural presence and reputation as someone like Pauline Kael or Roger Ebert did at one time. And part of this probably has to do with the rise of aggregation platforms like Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic and the diminishing valuation of criticism and arts journalism generally. But also? There are absolutely critics whose tastes I know through Film Twitter and Letterboxd and Blank Check, and I'd guess that QT just isn't tapped into those kinds of spaces.

jaymc, Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:28 (nine months ago) link

I've wondered whether I should pack it in and move my pots and pans to Letterboxd just for exposure.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:36 (nine months ago) link

Would follow, obv

jaymc, Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:39 (nine months ago) link

Tarantino’s point is very good.

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:41 (nine months ago) link

Looked into ordering a copy of The Press Gang (above), but--surprise--not cheap.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:47 (nine months ago) link

Needless to say--and cognizant of my own laziness on the matter--Tarantino and I are in sync there.

clemenza, Thursday, 22 June 2023 17:48 (nine months ago) link

Tarantino is intentionally not remembering Arm0nd

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:02 (nine months ago) link

Maybe he's a fan of early Armond but not the current version? I don't know. (And I should exempt David Edelstein myself, who seems to have disappeared since his Last Tango remark.)

clemenza, Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:12 (nine months ago) link

Pretty sure Tarantino's hated Arm0nd since Pulp Fiction: https://letterboxd.com/notarmondwhite/film/pulp-fiction/1/

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:15 (nine months ago) link

Didn't know there was a history there--did he review Reservoir Dogs?

clemenza, Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:18 (nine months ago) link

Tarantino can't name David Ehrlich, Bilge Ebiri, Michael Koresky, Glenn Kenny, or Amy Nicholson?

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:19 (nine months ago) link

I could add five or six more names. It's not hard if you keep up. If I watch a film, I look up what these people wrote about it.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:20 (nine months ago) link

M'DA has a pretty sharply defined personal taste and style

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:30 (nine months ago) link

M'ike Dangelo?

jaymc, Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:34 (nine months ago) link

Richard Brody is a critic with distinctive taste who's working at a legacy publication ... though only his capsule reviews ever appear in print. My sense of his obsessions comes mostly from reading his reviews on the New Yorker's website.

jaymc, Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:37 (nine months ago) link

I've never read White before, having only heard bad things about him, but that review of Pulp Fiction is OTM.

Brad C., Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:48 (nine months ago) link

In the late '90s I read Rafferty, Sragow, and Rosenbaum a lot.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:53 (nine months ago) link

weirdly arm0nd considered once upon a time in hollywood to be tarantino's best iirc

omar little, Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:56 (nine months ago) link

probably for all the wrong reasons

omar little, Thursday, 22 June 2023 18:57 (nine months ago) link

clemenza otm

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2023 19:02 (nine months ago) link

"When Brad Pitt strips off his shirt as if it were just another piece of nylon, he isn't just Cliff Booth -- he's the American Star In Excelsis, a rebuke to a liberal/woke vision of uninhibited masculinity."

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2023 19:03 (nine months ago) link

Tarantino can't name David Ehrlich, Bilge Ebiri, Michael Koresky, Glenn Kenny, or Amy Nicholson?

Happy to read Bilge Elbiri and Glenn Kenny when I come across them, don’t even know the others names, I’m afraid. But I am old and about to shift decade threads. Just you wait.

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2023 19:05 (nine months ago) link

Bonus typo to drive home the point

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2023 19:05 (nine months ago) link

Wouldn’t it be amazing if other countries had film critics

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 22 June 2023 20:09 (nine months ago) link

Another good point

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2023 20:16 (nine months ago) link

I assume you are referring to Canada, nicht wahr?

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2023 20:17 (nine months ago) link

Wouldn’t it be amazing if other countries had film critics

― Ward Fowler,

but they do have socialism

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2023 20:17 (nine months ago) link

A related convo two years ago on the New Yorker magazine thread

It's kind of interesting, there are all sorts of well-known and respected young-ish (let's say, liberally, under 50) music writers, but to my knowledge no equivalent for film writing. For some reason I thought Manohla Dargis was young, but she's almost 60 (same as Lane). AO Scott is in his mid-50s. Brody, fwiw, is 72.

― Josh in Chicago, Monday, January 4, 2021 11:08 AM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Get @filmcrithulk the New Yorker gig

― is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, January 4, 2021 11:29 AM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I love Brody. He’s a reasonably good guide for me, tho has a higher tolerance for twee aesthetics than I do

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, January 4, 2021 11:39 AM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Same. Our sensibilities align even when we disagree.

― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, January 4, 2021 11:47 AM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

A few youngish film writers working for top publications:

K. Austin Collins (Rolling Stone), Richard Lawson (Vanity Fair), Alissa Wilkinson (Vox), Angelica Jade Bastién (Vulture), Alison Willmore (BuzzFeed), Justin Chang (L.A. Times)

― jaymc, Monday, January 4, 2021 11:48 AM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Also, Hunter Harris isn't a film critic, but she's a film writer with 100K Twitter followers and a Substack.

― jaymc, Monday, January 4, 2021 11:50 AM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

david sims at the atlantic

― na (NA), Monday, January 4, 2021 12:11 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think a lot of this just comes down to knowing where to look. Siskel & Ebert isn't on TV anymore, but film discourse still thrives in lots of places.

jaymc, Thursday, 22 June 2023 20:41 (nine months ago) link

I kind of like to read something a day or two after I’ve seen something but I don’t feel compelled to read all the opinions and see what the consensus is. Even if I like and respect the critics mentioned whose names I do recognize, I don’t feel any real need to see how they weigh in. Not saying other people shouldn’t. Or am I?

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2023 20:50 (nine months ago) link

I know you are but what am I?

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 June 2023 21:07 (nine months ago) link

Heh

Holly Godarkbloom (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 22 June 2023 21:14 (nine months ago) link

Not to turn this into the Letterboxd thread, but it's nice to log something there and then immediately see what other people think -- including the critics I follow. Sometimes it's just a tossed-off reaction, but sometimes they link to reviews. David Ehrlich, for instances, always posts the first couple of grafs of his IndieWire review, with a link to read the rest of it.

jaymc, Thursday, 22 June 2023 21:27 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

Brody with back-to-back blockbusters:

The point is that Barbie is the *best* movie to cross the billion-dollar line.

— Richard Brody (@tnyfrontrow) August 13, 2023


Quick word, on Alfred Hitchcock's birthday: Marnie > Vertigo, because they're nearly the same—a woman's desperate and deceptive self-transformation, male predation, mental illness—but in Marnie, the woman is the center of attention and source and energy; who's got the vertigo?...

— Richard Brody (@tnyfrontrow) August 13, 2023

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 14 August 2023 20:55 (eight months ago) link

Didn't Taxi Driver make a billion dollars?

clemenza, Monday, 14 August 2023 21:31 (eight months ago) link

For the firearm industry

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 14 August 2023 21:39 (eight months ago) link

Wikipedia says 28.3 mil, making it the 17th highest grossing film in the US that year.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 14 August 2023 22:00 (eight months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Bunker 15’s founder, Daniel Harlow, says, “Wow, you are really reaching there,” and disagrees with the suggestion that his company buys reviews to skew Rotten Tomatoes: “We have thousands of writers in our distribution list. A small handful have set up a specific system where filmmakers can sponsor or pay to have them review a film.”


Nice work.

https://www.vulture.com/article/rotten-tomatoes-movie-rating.html

Alba, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:09 (seven months ago) link

Naturally, studios have learned to exploit this dynamic. Publicist No. 1 recalls working on a 2022 title that premiered to acclaim at a festival a few months before its release: “I wanted to screen it more widely, but the movie had a 100 and the studio didn’t want to damage that because they wanted to use the ‘100 percent’ graphic in their marketing. I said, ‘Why don’t we get a couple more reviews?,’ and they were like, ‘We just want the 100.’ ” The film won an Oscar.

Have to assume this title was Women Talking

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:17 (seven months ago) link

Beautiful. And I thought critics didn't matter anymore

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 19:07 (seven months ago) link

two months pass...

TIL that Godfrey Cheshire, among the film critics I trust, is also a member of the LGBTQ+ family. Just announced his marriage to his husband on Facebook yesterday.

Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Monday, 6 November 2023 15:23 (five months ago) link


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