Autechre - classic or dud

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I was in Boston, and I'm pretty sure I got it at Newbury Comics.

lukas, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

Maybe Tower

lukas, Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

I def got the expanded 2cd tri repeatae++ at tower but (checks discogs...) looks like wax trax put that out in the US. strange, I coulda swore I had to go into the imports room for it...

(⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:47 (three years ago) link

It took me a long time to take a closer look at Autechre because I thought of them as that pleasant chill out music my raver friends would throw on back in my college days

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link

lol RYM lists "elseq 6-10" in the upcoming releases sidebar - looks like its just some fan-made release and people are getting pissed off in the shoutbox

frogbs, Sunday, 28 March 2021 01:57 (three years ago) link

that said I'm soulseeking it and it's pretty nice. it basically just stitches together stuff from the 2014-2015 live sets but it really works

frogbs, Sunday, 28 March 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link

I bought tri repetae++ and amber at salvation army :)

intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Sunday, 28 March 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

I'm still listening to the autechre podcast (gonkcast) I mentioned upthread. They're currently going through all the Gescom stuff, which is something I never really explored much (tried listening to minidisc a couple of times and randomly listened to a couple of tracks here and there). This got me listening to Gescom and the podcast helpfully pointed me toward the best stuff (Key nell and ISS:SA).

"Key nell" in particular is interesting because it comes midpoint between Tri Repetae and Chiastic Slide and kind of shows how Autechre gradually got to the Chiastic Slide sound, which without the Gescom EP seems like this huge sudden leap forward in their discography.

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

funny how when most musician threads get bumped it's a combination of "fuck are they ok" and/or "fuck what did they do" and with Autechre it's "fuck is there 13 more hours of music I gotta listen to now"

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 September 2021 16:36 (two years ago) link

Sadly no.

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:12 (two years ago) link

I'm still listening to gonkcast too, I have a low tolerance for 'two guys shooting the shit' podcasts but it's one of the less irritating ones. And Keynell is awesome.

Believe me, grow a lemon tree. (ledge), Wednesday, 1 September 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Basscadet Mixes

Kicking off my listening adventure.

This is … nice, if basic. The right thing for the low-stakes last day before a long holiday weekend.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

I’m being too harsh! It’s fun, pop, ruminative. It’s just not quite Autechre to me, but of course these are remixes so

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link

The Seefeel mix is giving me Crystal Method flashbacks

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

I love how pop the structure of Basscadet is (as with a few songs, yes songs, on Incunabula), and the bass drop is really a blast. Not all the mixes are winners but it's an interesting capsule. There's a nice one with string sounds IIRC.

Are you working through their catalogue? I did that, or a large chnk of it a few momths ago over a couple of weeks prompted by a general AI nostalgia kick. Had the EPs collection on my phone for walking around for quite a while.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:33 (two years ago) link

Noel, indeed. Going through using the Apple Music order, though I have to remember the EPs section. Maybe Wikipedia will make it easier to go in the right order

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link

lol see you in a few years

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:35 (two years ago) link

Lol

See you on Election Day 2024

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link

On to Incunabula

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 15:52 (two years ago) link

If you need a bonus digestive there is an amazing live version of Kalpol Introl.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uTUnTGb15c

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:08 (two years ago) link

Which I guess is a bit of a spoiler for the Anti EP.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

is the eps box in spotify? because there are a couple of things before basscadet (vinyl only at the time, but they are in the box) (box also has another basscadet version)

koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:10 (two years ago) link

I think it's only the Cavity Job 12" that's before Basscadet? Which isn't bad but more curate's egg than essential. I've owned most of the records but picked up the digital in one of bleep's boxing day sales for £10.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

yeah. and the basscadet on the eps skips the two 3rd party remixes and adds one

Basscadet (Bcdtmx) 6:49
Basscadet (Beaumonthannanttwomx) 8:14 <- gone
Basscadet (Seefeelmx) 6:51 <- gone
Basscadet (Tazmx) 6:54
Basscadet (Basscadubmx) 9:37

vs

Basscadet Bcdtmx 6:48
Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
Basscadet Tazmx 6:53
Basscadet Basscadubmx 9:37

koogs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

Was delayed on listening due to work stuff but getting into it now.

Can definitely sense richness, mystery, etc. You could
put this on at a party in the late 90s (or today) and people would dig it but for the most part not ask “who is this by”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:22 (two years ago) link

Okay, maybe it’s a little idiosyncratic than that. Strangers who crashed your party might not ask who made the music but might invite you to their parties

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

FYI Incunabula is made up of tracks selected by Warp from a large set they sent in, so Amber is kind’ve their first album qua album.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

Although they have also said of Amber that they were trying a bit too much to make a "Warp" record.

Having put on Incunabula at parties in the 90s that's about right, although I want to say there was always something... xxp

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link

Whenever I'm on hold and this comes on, I think of Incunabula

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bT9qeveLyP8

Urbandn hope all ye who enter here (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

Don't forget Lego Feet! 1991 era work by Ae, before they landed on the Autechre name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNGy5k53k8

octobeard, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 19:47 (two years ago) link

That Karpol Introl live was great. Any other similar early live stuff?

I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:35 (two years ago) link

is this your first go with the group Raymond? always interested to hear what those who come in completely blind think.

there's a web reviewer named George Starostin who used to have one of those sites where he'd just try to review every album ever made (I think he may be still at it, actually). anyway he's a pretty hardcore "Beatles are the greatest of all time/No worthwhile music was made after '83" kinda guy and for some reason he decided to start reviewing Autechre. he liked some of their early stuff - first 3 albums, mostly - but after Confield he was just completely lost. he still decided to commit to the bit and review everything up to at least NTS 1, pretty much writing the same "are we sure they know what they're doing" review every time out. I felt a little bad for him by the end honestly.

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link

I’ve heard pretty much everything they’ve done (with the exception of the ocean of recent live records) at least three times.

The pre-1998 material I don’t know as well as the stuff beyond that point because I just don’t play it much - early AE is like a totally different enterprise to these ears! - so it’s almost like experiencing it for the first time, if that makes sense.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

A real trooper, George was, from the sound of things!

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link

To clarify further: LP5 is where I got onboard (as it came out). I went back and bought and/or heard what came before that but it’s never done much for me, tbh.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:02 (two years ago) link

there's a web reviewer named George Starostin who used to have one of those sites where he'd just try to review every album ever made (I think he may be still at it, actually). anyway he's a pretty hardcore "Beatles are the greatest of all time/No worthwhile music was made after '83" kinda guy and for some reason he decided to start reviewing Autechre. he liked some of their early stuff - first 3 albums, mostly - but after Confield he was just completely lost. he still decided to commit to the bit and review everything up to at least NTS 1, pretty much writing the same "are we sure they know what they're doing" review every time out. I felt a little bad for him by the end honestly.

I just looked at this guy's blog and while he really seems to hate a lot of their stuff (especially Exai/elseq/NTS) he did like Oversteps and Move of Ten. Seems like he would probably like SIGN/PLUS if he ever deciedes to review them.

silverfish, Wednesday, 24 November 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link

Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
I had no idea about this. Searching now.

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 07:01 (two years ago) link

Basscadet Basscadoublemx 4:26 <- added
I had no idea about this. Searching now.

Ah, it was originally vinyl only. It's fine, not essential.

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 07:06 (two years ago) link

i think the bascadet 10"s were the first autechre things i saw, in the virgin megastore on oxford street (first i bought was the envane cd, although i probably had the artificial intelligence cds first)

koogs, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:05 (two years ago) link

The CD version of the EP box has the untitled hidden pregap track from EP7 at the start of Cichlisuite too, btw. (the download version doesn't have it, if discogs is correct)

StanM, Friday, 26 November 2021 09:38 (two years ago) link

The CD version of the EP box has the untitled hidden pregap track from EP7 at the start of Cichlisuite too, btw. (the download version doesn't have it, if discogs is correct)

Oh that's good! An important one. It's super-weird that it's split across 2 CDs though :/

raven, Friday, 26 November 2021 12:49 (two years ago) link

The EPs box is a cool object, but it is some work to figure out which EP you're actually listening to, especially if you aren't really familiar with the track titles. The Gonkcast guys admit their lack of familiarity with the individual EPs as such when covering them (but then they lack direct experience with the physical releases in general). I've been working through most of the discography and Gonkcast in tandem, currently up through Oversteps. It takes a while for their "takes" to emerge, but it's thoughtful, convivial and nice to listen to while chopping up vegetables or whatever.

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Friday, 26 November 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link

Not sure if I ever listened to that pre-gap track althogh I have owned EP7 on CD as well as vinyl (promos - an especially good pressing.) The EPs collection is remastered so the levels match nicely and it's easy to let it play through. One other thing missing from it is the alt version of Laughing Quarter.

feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Friday, 26 November 2021 13:57 (two years ago) link

Checked out my spotify wrapped thing for 2021 and according to it I am in the top 0.05% of autechre listeners for 2021. I guess with still listening to SIGN/PLUS a bunch and also going through the whole gonkcast podcast this was going to happen.

silverfish, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

six months pass...

Damn, this is a magical set.

https://autechre.bandcamp.com/track/ae-live-oslo-171116

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 26 June 2022 13:28 (one year ago) link

was just reminded that in 1997 they produced a track for an artpop album by some Japanese singer named Mari Hamada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB0BY0EqijM

which I think is the only time you get to hear what Ae would sound like with vocals. it's really nice. they aren't on the rest of the album obviously but it's really worth checking out

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 13:46 (one year ago) link

Never heard (of) that before, thanks.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link

Sean was a bit down on that track in the recent chat - it was basically a demo that got taken for the final mix iirc - but I've always liked it.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

i was shocked to find out it is a cover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMYiRsoUKBw

idk man (noz), Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:17 (one year ago) link

I did not know that either. the whole Mari Hamada album is a mystery, would love to read a track by track breakdown on how it came to be. how did Autechre even get involved? I know they've done some remixes of stuff with vocals but nothing else like this

frogbs, Tuesday, 28 June 2022 17:43 (one year ago) link


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