As a person who tries, with varying success, to figure out how French people would say a word in French, I lean more toward cun-yack.
Here you go:
https://forvo.com/word/cognac/#fr
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 01:40 (three years ago) link
Ha, I went to Forvo after I posted. I pronounce it mostly like the English speaker TopQuark, although maybe I have been saying something like Khan-yak or Kayn(e)-ak. I started thinking about this because I got hit with a cone-yack today.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:16 (three years ago) link
And I just now enjoyed listening to the way this borrowed word is pronounced by speakers of different languages.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link
Just noticed Forvo has the pronunciation written out as well. For that sound it has ɒ, the open back rounded vowel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_back_rounded_vowel
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link
Whereas for French it has the neighboring ɔ sound: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open-mid_back_rounded_vowel
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link
Also see: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cognac
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:35 (three years ago) link
Kog-knack
― treeship., Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link
In any case, this seems like a classic case of trying to approximate a vowel sound that we don't have in English and getting on either side of it. Also now comparing saying it in English versus saying it in French, or even saying the Spanish version coñac. For those two I feel my lips pursing a bit.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:41 (three years ago) link
Hey, Wiktionary led me to what seems to be a pretty nice French dictionary I never came across before. https://www.cnrtl.fr/definition/cognac
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:42 (three years ago) link
Dutch version uses the same vowel sound but the "gn' is pronounced a little differently and there is a strong accent on the second sylllable.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:43 (three years ago) link
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
i say Cone-Yak and Khan-Yak depending on the moment but more often hear it colloquially referred to as "yak" or by brand.i also do not drink so it's less of an issue but i did tend bar for a year or two.
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 03:29 (three years ago) link
I recently heard someone use the word "epoch", pronouncing it somewhat close to "epic". It struck me that I'd never heard this word spoken out loud as I'd always imagined it would be "ee-pok".
― Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 05:55 (three years ago) link
That's how I'd say it.
― nickn, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 06:04 (three years ago) link
I said “epock” in my head until taking a course where a teacher said “epic” thousands of times
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 06:11 (three years ago) link
"eepock" is "standard" Brit pron
― massaman gai (front tea for two), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 08:11 (three years ago) link
Think in US it is eh-puck
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:42 (three years ago) link
But yes I see U.K. pronunciation is as you say
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:44 (three years ago) link
TS Khans vs. Yakshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGO-SldLrNA
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:48 (three years ago) link
just call it brandy
― mahb, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:51 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTqTE7aNjZQ
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 13:32 (three years ago) link
In Japanese cognac and konjac are not only homophones but share identical katakana which makes menu misreading interesting sometimes.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/86/Conrack1974.jpg
― nickn, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link
Ha!
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link
― mahb, Tuesday, March 16, 2021 5:51 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
i once asked for a pint of guinness and a cognac in a glasgow pub and the bartender said "you can have a pint of guinness and a brandy
― himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 18:20 (three years ago) link
If it's not an appellation d'origine contrôlée, sure.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link
Just heard a shitty, soppy old '50s song where the singer pronounced 'fingers' as if the break between the syllables came after the 'g'. 'FING-ers'. I pretty much barfed all over myself when that happened.
― Clem McFlannery's Clam Phlegm Cannery (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 18:47 (three years ago) link
Is .wav wave or wav?
― .xlsm (P. Flick), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 20:48 (two years ago) link
I have never thought of it as wav.
― jimbeaux, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 20:50 (two years ago) link
I think i know it's wave, but the pronunciation of a schoolmate from 20 odd years ago (southwest UK) has left me unable to move forward. I don't think this is like gif/jif where there was debate - and settlement? it's gif, right? - but curious if this is regional or just me and that one dude
― .xlsm (P. Flick), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 21:00 (two years ago) link
i've never heard anything other than a "wave" file. gif vs jif is a fight where if you care you lose
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 21:13 (two years ago) link
Didn't the inventor of the GIF format publicly announce it's jif?
― nickn, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link
jif is the correct pronunciation of GIF, which is the acronym for Giraffe Information File.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 21:24 (two years ago) link
Giraffe Interchange Format, surely.
― nickn, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 21:26 (two years ago) link
Who interchanges giraffes?!
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 19 January 2022 21:28 (two years ago) link
yes. then many years passed, and a lot of people who were born after the format were invented pronounced it in a different way. at this point, many people began losing by fighting about which way was best
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link
I would say 'wav', fwiw.
― Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link
i always used to say wav. I think I knew it was probably "wave" but I read things phonetically
― kinder, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 22:30 (two years ago) link
Waveform Audio File Format (WAVE, or WAV due to its filename extension; pronounced "wave"[8])
― Kim Kimberly, Wednesday, 19 January 2022 23:06 (two years ago) link
waff, or gtfo
― Vinnie, Thursday, 20 January 2022 07:22 (two years ago) link
like "suave"? Have never heard anyone ever say that.
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 23 January 2022 22:57 (two years ago) link
i say it, but only as i use their products every morning.
*looks in peepcam*
"suave"
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 23 January 2022 23:01 (two years ago) link
In the UK at least, Wav, like suave, never heard it called a 'Wave' file by anyone that has to actually deal with them in almost 30 years in audio.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 24 January 2022 00:05 (two years ago) link
What is it called? A wavv? New to me but seems good
― Karl Malone, Monday, 24 January 2022 00:10 (two years ago) link
Yeah, like 'have' with a w
― Maresn3st, Monday, 24 January 2022 00:15 (two years ago) link
my problem is i'm thinking of sin waves and triangle and square waves
― Karl Malone, Monday, 24 January 2022 00:18 (two years ago) link
just basic building block components of sound. i know that's different than the filetype and all of that. i just associate them that way, may be alone in that
― Karl Malone, Monday, 24 January 2022 00:19 (two years ago) link