i'd say that they're the favorites in the supporting actor category, but raci could solidify support and win if there's vote-splitting.
i personally think stanfield was fine, but he's been much better in other things. kaluuya was a force of nature.
― caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:02 (three years ago) link
borat, ma rainey, and judas are the only movies nommed in the big 6 that i've seen
― caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link
I know they really want to give Boseman the best actor Oscar, and I'm OK with that but tbh his role could just as easily have been classified as supporting.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link
he's the main driver of the plot and the emotion, i'd say he's definitely a lead. also learned recently that his role was originally played on stage by charles s. dutton
― caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link
*idk why i wrote emotion when i meant "conflict" but whatever
I guess Stanfield was *submitted* by the studio as a lead, but the academy voted to nominate him as supporting?
So who makes these calls? The voting members of the acting branch, whose votes determine the nominees, regardless of studio campaigns or critics’ awards.According to academy rules, “A performance by an actor or actress in any role shall be eligible for nomination either for the leading role or supporting role categories ... The determination as to whether a role is a leading or supporting role shall be made individually by members of the branch at the time of balloting.”
According to academy rules, “A performance by an actor or actress in any role shall be eligible for nomination either for the leading role or supporting role categories ... The determination as to whether a role is a leading or supporting role shall be made individually by members of the branch at the time of balloting.”
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 March 2021 19:37 (three years ago) link
Correct.
Just to be clear, WB did not campaign #JudasAndTheBlackMessiah as a leadless movie. Voters who believed that Stanfield was supporting were simply plentiful enough for him to make the category. #Oscars pic.twitter.com/zOKFyQkPqd— Myles McNutt (@Memles) March 15, 2021
― jaymc, Monday, 15 March 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link
good to know. would've been a bummer for stanfield to miss out due to people voting for him in different categories.
― caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Monday, 15 March 2021 19:59 (three years ago) link
Lakeith is obviously the lead. Kaluuya would be fine to class as co-lead or supporting.― armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, March 15, 2021 1:58 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― armoured van, Holden (sic), Monday, March 15, 2021 1:58 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
Also correct. I saw a breakdown of screen time, and Stanfield has just slightly more (like 49 minutes vs. 46 minutes), but he's also the audience surrogate, which makes him more of a lead.
― jaymc, Monday, 15 March 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link
LaKeith Stanfield has shared his reaction to being Oscar-nominated in Best Supporting Actor for JUDAS AND THE BLACK MESSIAH pic.twitter.com/9TQFx17gkW— Isaac Feldberg (@isaacfeldberg) March 16, 2021
― caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:31 (three years ago) link
Love that guy
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 02:52 (three years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2021/apr/22/the-most-awkward-oscars-moments-ranked
I've no recollection of this
"Possibly the least showy moment on this list, but easily the most excruciating. The Vice hair and makeup team didn’t seem to know each other when they arrived onstage to collect their award. One of them started a speech, then stopped as his colleague unfurled her own speech. She ordered him to read it. He refused. She started reading it. A third winner, holding her own speech, haltingly joined in. They started to get played off, but ploughed on nonetheless. As they collectively fumbled to decode some handwriting on one of the now several speeches, the camera cut away. They kept going. The stage lights switched off."
― piscesx, Thursday, 22 April 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
Without looking at the list, curious if they included the Hearts and Minds acceptance speech in '75 or whenever. Will check the link.
― clemenza, Thursday, 22 April 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link
They didn’t, too niche i expect.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:11 (three years ago) link
They don't have Benigni climbing over people or the lady from Once getting cut off either.
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:46 (three years ago) link
Oh, and "Uma...Oprah"!
― blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 22 April 2021 22:52 (three years ago) link
and not a single one of these :(
https://clickhole.com/the-best-speeches-from-last-night-s-oscars-1825120978/
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Thursday, 22 April 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link
There's nothing embarrassing about that Jack Palance acceptance, it's great
― ignore the blue line (or something), Thursday, 22 April 2021 23:42 (three years ago) link
Faulty memory. I looked at the clip, and not nearly as incendiary as my 45-year-old memory of it. I thought there was loud booing, like with Michael Moore. Not at all; the crowd sounds quite on their side. I think, later, there may have been someone speak disparagingly from the stage about Schneider--Bob Hope or John Wayne?--but I'm not sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMR1mVGbfUk
― clemenza, Thursday, 22 April 2021 23:43 (three years ago) link
legit stream
https://ustvgo.tv/abc-live-streaming-free/
― piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 00:05 (three years ago) link
Canned laughter?? taking a cue from the Brits there.
Isn't best supporting actor usually first?
― piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link
this was always going to be awkward and boring but they've really outdone themselves!
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link
That 'talking to the nominees from the stage' thing sucked ten years ago, God knows who thought they should revive it.
― piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link
Those introductions from Laura Dern to the supporting actors! Is that what you are referring to? Every acceptance speech other than Zhao's has been ridiculously long too.
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link
Sorry, I'm only half watching but thanks for the link-up, piscesx.
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link
I liked that they presented the best director award so close to the beginning, Chloe Zhao totally deserved it and she gave an admirably short acceptance speech
― Dan S, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link
i started this half and hour or so late so i could ffwd through commercials and endless sanctimony and boring shit i'm already out of buffer
― Clay, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:13 (three years ago) link
lol
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:19 (three years ago) link
Reece never ages, it's incredible.
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:20 (three years ago) link
Denzel Washington and Laura Dern don't either.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:22 (three years ago) link
Laura looked gorgeous. Have we had best supporting actress?
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:24 (three years ago) link
i don't think so
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link
Woah that Octopus film looks great. That's a sentence i never thought i'd write.
xp No Supporting Actress yet.
― piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link
If Glenn Close doesn't win she makes history as the most nominated actor *ever* to not win.
― piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link
Peter O'Toole will join her for a drink.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 01:53 (three years ago) link
re Octopus it's nice, I liked it a lot and there is a lot of beautiful underwater photography but the anthropomorphizing is kind over the top
― Dan S, Monday, 26 April 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link
they should let youn yuh-jong do the rest of the speeches
― Clay, Monday, 26 April 2021 02:05 (three years ago) link
Love that Harrison Ford read the blade runner notes
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:19 (three years ago) link
Anyone else think Sound of Metal will win best picture?
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:20 (three years ago) link
Blade runner was one of the first movies where ford didn't even try to act and just read off his lines. It needed different cuts to work around his shit performance.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:23 (three years ago) link
Didn't need a speech about tolerance from the gay homophobe. Especially not one decrying intolerance towards cops.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:34 (three years ago) link
Glenn Close's monologue on "Da Butt" is her most moving screen performance since 1988.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link
Just imagine, if we hadn't had the Questlove music quiz come of these dead people may have got more than a fraction of a second of commemoration. Some of them disappeared so fast you didn't have the chance to read the name.
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 02:59 (three years ago) link
what? best picture now?
― Cocteau Twinks (jed_), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link
who's the 'gay homophobe'?
― piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 03:09 (three years ago) link
Tyler Perry, allegedly.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 April 2021 03:10 (three years ago) link
this is a fucking mess of a production. the sound is terrible. no clips? what was that ten minute torturous guess if the song won an oscar game? Questlove's DJing is bad, bad, bad, utterly context-free songs from 'movies' disconnected from everything...
― akm, Monday, 26 April 2021 03:11 (three years ago) link
in memorium rushed through with an upbeat stevie wonder song, with only Boseman and Connery getting more than a fraction of a second
― akm, Monday, 26 April 2021 03:12 (three years ago) link
xp ah gotcha.
― piscesx, Monday, 26 April 2021 03:13 (three years ago) link
christ this is the most painful idea.. kill it with fire.