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misread that Jedward comment and disappointed that he didn't suggest that Piers Moran would try fucking the Churchill statue in his back garden

calzino, Monday, 15 March 2021 12:10 (three years ago) link

They are a clear restriction on individual's freedoms, they are the state stepping in to impose its will on the people. I don't really see how you could call them anything but.

― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 15 March 2021 bookmarkflaglink

To me these are a set of public health driven temporary measures to stop the spread of a disease that could've killed a lot more people.

Yes, this is a basic disagreement.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 March 2021 12:17 (three years ago) link

I think they are both, there's nothing in your defintion that contradicts mine. In times of major crisis like this one, the government steps in with measures that would be unacceptable in regular circumstances. This is an obvious danger, because these can easily get consolidated into rules that continue after the crisis has been averted, but it would also mean disaster not to impose any.

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 15 March 2021 12:23 (three years ago) link

My God, I can't even imagine the uproar if someone dynamited Churchill *fingers crossed*

Woke For Luck (Tom D.), Monday, 15 March 2021 12:24 (three years ago) link

rigging up the Jan Smits statue like he's fellating Churchill would also be hilarious

calzino, Monday, 15 March 2021 12:30 (three years ago) link

Ugh, Anna Birley from RTS should’ve been drawn on whether or not Dick resigns because a) damned if you do/don’t b) it’ll be a live issue for ages because the Met may well be negligent in the way they handled previous offences by the guy who has been charged, which will also be on her. My friend Jamie is the most articulate of the organisers (never misses an opportunity to be intersectional or anti-transphobe) and I bet she’s banging her head against a wall rn.

scampopo (suzy), Monday, 15 March 2021 12:40 (three years ago) link

I think that A**a B*rl*y is a pro-KS (and was anti-JC) sort of person?

Have seen many many posts from her over the years and gained that impression.

the pinefox, Monday, 15 March 2021 12:44 (three years ago) link

I've got more tangential questions about the use of "resign" as a political gesture and the extent to which it might actually be counterproductive in many situations or at best a distraction from bigger underlying issues but on the other hand it's not like I care what happens to a cop and they should be defunded

scamp til you're damp (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 March 2021 12:49 (three years ago) link

NEW Keir Starmer scores his first negative rating from @IpsosMORI and slips behind Boris Johnson and the Govt. for first time😲

Net satisfaction

Johnson: -7 (+2)
Government: -7 (+3)
Starmer: -9 (-14)

Changes from Feb 2020. (1/5) pic.twitter.com/GrckyIUL1p

— Cameron Garrett (@CameronGarrett_) March 15, 2021

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 15 March 2021 13:13 (three years ago) link

nine point deduction!

calzino, Monday, 15 March 2021 13:14 (three years ago) link

relegation haunted kieth

calzino, Monday, 15 March 2021 13:14 (three years ago) link

"Do you think Cressida Dick, Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, should or should not resign over the way police handled the Sarah Everard vigil?"

Should: 23%
Should not: 47%

[18-24]
Should: 34%
Should not: 30%

[65+]
Should: 19%
Should not: 59%

Via YouGov, 15 March

— Stats for Lefties (@LeftieStats) March 15, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 March 2021 13:31 (three years ago) link

Young ppl are ready to Tory

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 March 2021 13:31 (three years ago) link

the comments even on usually sane places have been depressing af - I have seen lots of "if they didn't break the law it wouldn't have happened to them" and "nobody should be gathering anywhere for any reason", especially from people outside London

stet, Monday, 15 March 2021 13:53 (three years ago) link

"... Labour had been making gains not from Tories but Greens/Lib Dems, yet there are some signs those voters are now returning to the Lib Dems."

on the latest Lord Hayward polling

calzino, Monday, 15 March 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link

Can't Truss it

New: Downing Street confirms part-time Women and Equalities Minister Liz Truss will not be attending a meeting of the Crime and Justice Taskforce this evening to discuss 'violence against women and girls'. Neither will anyone else from Government Equalities Office.

— David Wilcock (@DavidTWilcock) March 15, 2021

nashwan, Monday, 15 March 2021 15:01 (three years ago) link

even when Truss can be bothered attending meetings, she's rarely *all there* anyway

calzino, Monday, 15 March 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link

Can't believe a government led by Boris Johnson isn't doing anything about violence against women

scamp til you're damp (Noodle Vague), Monday, 15 March 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link

If Zarah Sultana was leader Labour would be 20 points ahead pic.twitter.com/GpB5qtCHMM

— black lives matter (@jrc1921) March 15, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 March 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

Westminster bridge is blocked there might be some traffic delays! pic.twitter.com/4q3s4ZKwzp

— JEDWARD (@planetjedward) March 15, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 March 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link

Prince Andrew needs to be locked up! @RoyalFamily

— JEDWARD (@planetjedward) March 14, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 March 2021 21:59 (three years ago) link

"We strained at the leash to get things going," one cabinet minister admits. "I was aggressively for that - but I have learned that it is better to go slow."
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-56361599

Learned at the costs of thousands dead, and haven’t learned enough to resign, naturally.

stet, Monday, 15 March 2021 22:39 (three years ago) link

A Metropolitan Police officer, who was involved in the search operation to find Sarah Everard, has been referred to the Independent Office for Police Conduct for sharing an “inappropriate graphic” with colleagues: https://t.co/OfEzhDJElG

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) March 15, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 15 March 2021 22:59 (three years ago) link

Cressida Dick's part in the Jean Charles de Menezes affair seems to have been completely forgotten btw.

Woke For Luck (Tom D.), Monday, 15 March 2021 23:09 (three years ago) link

and Starmer at DPP in not prosecuting the officers involved in shooting someone through the head 7 times for the capital crime of using public transport and not looking white enough.

calzino, Monday, 15 March 2021 23:44 (three years ago) link

at

anyway it's not nice to keep bringing up Kieth's appalling record at CPS before his appalling record in Corbyn's cabinet or his appalling record as LOTO. The local elections are coming up. VOTE LABOUR

calzino, Monday, 15 March 2021 23:57 (three years ago) link

Horrendous shit-show

In December Julie Burchill accused me of worshipping a paedophile and called me an Islamist.

After legal action, she has apologised in full for these falsehoods, for playing into “Islamophobic tropes” and making “racist and misogynist” comments about my appearance and sex life. https://t.co/7scZBelq5w

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) March 16, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 09:21 (three years ago) link

*Nobody* should be writing nonsense like this by now, and certainly not the BBC's political editor. https://t.co/XquXoT4wXC pic.twitter.com/B4v0mDLFHm

— Jonathan Portes (@jdportes) March 15, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 10:06 (three years ago) link

I'm impressed by Jedward. (Don't know their music. Think they made music.)

Burchill's apology is surprisingly full. It's quite interesting that Sarkar successfully went to law - that can't be easy to do. Technical, wearisome, expensive, risky. But she succeeded in this case.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 10:27 (three years ago) link

Actually there have been a couple of cases of people using libel laws against right-wing commentators and The Mail and easily winning legal costs back + compensation and an apology.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 10:29 (three years ago) link

Don’t really know who you are @Keir_Starmer but get it together your actions are kinda pointless!

— JEDWARD (@planetjedward) March 15, 2021

Best yet.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 10:30 (three years ago) link

don't really know who you are Kieth but get it together your approval rating is kinda pointless

calzino, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 11:40 (three years ago) link

at this stage lab leadership seems to be just conning melts by promising them they are conning red wall voters instead

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 11:49 (three years ago) link

10 year prison sentences for defacing statues of murdering slave-traders is absurd and totally wrong.

Today I will be voting against the #PoliceCrackdownBill

— Zarah Sultana MP (@zarahsultana) March 16, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 11:51 (three years ago) link

Time to see how kieth is doing with the red wall people is it?

Mike Hill (Labour, Hartlepool) has resigned as a Member of Parliament.

— Britain Elects (@BritainElects) March 16, 2021

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:08 (three years ago) link

Only kept it last time because the brexit party didn't stand down, for some reason.

If anyone is interested, Lab had 15000 and con has 11000 roughly. pic.twitter.com/8CuRKXZ11O

— Matt (@BirnieMatthew) March 16, 2021

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:10 (three years ago) link

I think I can guess how this one's going to play out.

Woke For Luck (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:12 (three years ago) link

They didn't stand down because that approach nationwide ended up giving the Tories 30-odd seats and a strong majority. I was surprised this wasn't one of them.

nashwan, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:18 (three years ago) link

didn't they elect a teenager in a monkey costume as their mayor a few years back?

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:20 (three years ago) link

maybe the tory candidate last time out was a vocal remainer? seems unlikely.

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:21 (three years ago) link

I suspect it was mostly down to Richard Tice's ego.

Woke For Luck (Tom D.), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:30 (three years ago) link

those days of Mandy getting a whopping 17000+ majority from the monkey-hangers will soon be as long forgotten as Hartlepool FC are as a regular L1 fixture.

calzino, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:43 (three years ago) link

20 years ago, almost to the day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7p8hfaVz6E

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:46 (three years ago) link

Labour sources tipping Dr Paul Williams, former Stockon South MP and current candidate for Cleveland police and crime commissioner, as likeliest bet to win selection https://t.co/AhZawHePbQ

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) March 16, 2021

lol

calzino, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:47 (three years ago) link

Can't they just nominate a cardboard cutout of Churchill fucking a flag?

scamp til you're damp (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 12:52 (three years ago) link

it looks like Dr Paul is mates with ennobled sex pest Woodcock, another ex-Labour with a failed anonymity bid in court after sexual harassment accusations.

calzino, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 13:51 (three years ago) link

Lab might win.

6th govt gain at a by-election since the war coming up pic.twitter.com/YMj2ou3pAq

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) March 16, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link

how can you deduce which war he's referring to?

calzino, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

since it's Rentoul it could be the War of the Spanish Succession, or the Pelopenesian War, take your pick really

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 14:44 (three years ago) link

Give it Cranney rest of the season

nashwan, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 14:46 (three years ago) link


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