indefensible: john gruber

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You mean like having regular stereo speakers?

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Saturday, 13 March 2021 07:32 (three years ago) link

No, this is different.

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 13 March 2021 07:36 (three years ago) link

why not go quadraphonic HomePod

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 13 March 2021 07:45 (three years ago) link

homequad

Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 13 March 2021 07:45 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

he is such an arsehole
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/04/27/ride-out-the-storm

stet, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

without clicking I'm going to infer he's chiming in for some godawful reason on the Basecamp kerfuffle

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 15:03 (two years ago) link

lol gotta be

lag∞n, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

he was also right about this: "Saw he ended a post about some anti-mask agitators in Utah with the judgment that they’re all “stupid” which is just phenomenal on his part, not eugenicist at all"

akm, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link

oh but he's wrong about basecamp if in fact he's indicating support for them

akm, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 15:15 (two years ago) link

Yeah it’s Basecamp. And he then got the mildest amount of stick on Twitter and is now on about how Twitter is a hate machine.

stet, Wednesday, 28 April 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link

zzzzzzz how predictable

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 28 April 2021 15:57 (two years ago) link

he is _such_ an arsehole
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2021/04/27/ride-out-the-storm🕸


lmao he really nailed it, just ride it out.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 1 May 2021 01:23 (two years ago) link

the man is an expert in everything

lag∞n, Saturday, 1 May 2021 01:24 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

lmao what a fucking loser

lag∞n, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:23 (two years ago) link

real "I pay you so you have to do anything I say" vibes there

stet, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

so much for his "I'm going to read and learn from having my ass handed to me about Basecamp"

stet, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link

where did he say that?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 June 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

real "I pay you so you have to do anything I say" vibes there

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hes so transparently ignorant with this companies are not democracies shit, meanwhile at actual apple theyre dealing with the simple truth that keeping employees happy is important to their business

lag∞n, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link

On Basecamp, I’ve made a few assumptions that have been right, but more that have been wrong. So I feel I’m better off — for now — listening, reading, and learning, not talking, writing, or preaching.

— John Gruber (@gruber) May 5, 2021

xp

stet, Monday, 7 June 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

lmao

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 7 June 2021 18:26 (two years ago) link

well a month’s enough of that surely

Tracer Hand, Monday, 7 June 2021 22:16 (two years ago) link

Wait til he hears about trade unions. The gall of these people

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 8 June 2021 12:42 (two years ago) link

would be fun to go to work at apple and be the only person there, riding an electric scooter around the giant loop blasting whitney houston from a bluetooth speaker

lag∞n, Tuesday, 8 June 2021 12:54 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

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Maybe that’s why Chrome is so memory and energy efficient. https://t.co/eVaZvffAkP

— John Gruber (@gruber) August 16, 2021

sktsh, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

John eat a dick

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link

I mean Chrome also sucks but yknow

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:43 (two years ago) link

some people are just born assholes

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link

He’s perfecting it atm though. (also IE 3 was utter shite despite the marriage-destroying crunch so his point is doubly stupid)

stet, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 19:56 (two years ago) link

i wonder if there's a gene for 'will definitely be a douchebag'

Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 20:42 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

He'd be horrified to find out you can buy a $100 Bonavita and a $40 Chemex and have a less cool-looking Ratio Eight.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 5 September 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

Christ this guy. Say what you will about Wirecutter but they’ve never ever had a focus on the highest end of anything! The whole premise is “how to spend just enough money to make you happy if you want something good but don’t care about spectacular”

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Sunday, 5 September 2021 23:28 (two years ago) link

You don’t need a high end Wirecutter just look at what they suggest and find something that costs 2 to 10 times as much

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Sunday, 5 September 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link

Increasingly difficult to remember a time when this guy’s point of view was useful or interesting, maybe it never existed

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Sunday, 5 September 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link

ding ding ding ding

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 September 2021 09:10 (two years ago) link

is he getting divorced or something? his posting recently reminds me of men I know struggling either with mid-life or with breakups.

stet, Monday, 6 September 2021 14:00 (two years ago) link

he’s been divorced from reality for a while now!

the pivot from that era of mid-00s blogging where you could post cool shots from kubrick movies, mumble some stuff about the best way to do web design, fetishize typography, and then talk about the best way to use your apple devices to the modern era completely broke this dude

mh, Monday, 6 September 2021 18:24 (two years ago) link

there’s a different apple-oriented site I go to when I want to giggle at absurdity (macstories) because they really crank it up a bunch of notches. like, an entire series of posts on how to buy thousands of dollars of accessories so you can use your iPad as a primary computer

gruber’s just a weird cranky old neoliberal who thinks he’s a wonk when he has absolutely zero technical knowledge

mh, Monday, 6 September 2021 18:30 (two years ago) link

i probably keep making that post, don’t i

mh, Monday, 6 September 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

lol mh that is such a brutally accurate dunk of so much manblogging. the sheer volume of this stuff. people who would reverentially re-explain edward tufte and call it a career.

what is “the modern era” that has broken his brain though? feels harder to nail

Tracer Hand, Monday, 6 September 2021 20:08 (two years ago) link

Yeah great point that I hadn’t noticed until you said. Feels to me similar to the loss of gatekeeping authority the old-school print columnists went through.

Like happened with the political correspondents: when their subjects all got themselves on social media, the hacks lost their exclusive access and people could see for themselves what politicians were like, so that just left them with their analysis. Then Twitter and other places filled up with much better analysis. There is little left for the hacks to do but become client journalists.

Same deal with the Grubers and the Mossbergs. You can read more tweets than you can bear directly from every developer out there, you don’t need to hang around at WWDC to get access. Typographers aren’t these remote artists only read about in design journals printed on 300gsm stock, they’re on TikTok. You can get esoteric French movie stills without being a magazine deep-pocketed enough to pay Mary Evans. There are better and more immediate product reviewers on YouTube who don’t have to try and explain the minute differences between iPhone versions in sub-DFW prose but can just … show them to you.

So what’s left for Gruber but a combination of Apple’s brand of client journalism (see recent defence of the CSAM backdown), challops and “little birdies”? If Apple staff were allowed tweet he’d be done for.

stet, Monday, 6 September 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

Also fuck markdown

stet, Monday, 6 September 2021 22:19 (two years ago) link

otm lol

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Monday, 6 September 2021 23:22 (two years ago) link

stet nails a lot of it

what is “the modern era” that has broken his brain though? feels harder to nail
signposts for me:

  • the explosion and then contraction of blogging. his site has that tuned but barely-tweaked moveabletype platform feel. since he started, which he probably feels is classic
  • apple becoming not only mainstream, but ubiquitous. the market for non-developers finding a new apple feature or software api novel or interesting diminished by the month post-OS X release and there’s nothing fringe or counterculture about any of it
  • “cultivating an aesthetic” was more of a way to create affinity groups among bloggers and readers. post-tumblr and pinterest, it’s not an “elite” pursuit
the weird clique of blogging inspired by the “getting things done” cult and all of the software tools involved in that seem, in retrospect, to be kind of a reaction to what was going on in software development at the time. i’m sure there are column inches to be written about organizational strategies, but it’s over. half of all cubicle-based industries use some ridiculous task system now and no one is going to seem cool or interesting blogging about that. they’re going to seem like a management consultant or one of those perverts who posts on linkedin

tl;dr every middle manager is gruber now

mh, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

explain the minute differences between iPhone versions in sub-DFW prose

unexpectedly chortled so hard I got a brain aneurysm reading this one

mh, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:07 (two years ago) link

the film still thing is such a funny signpost of the blog times

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/ava-duvernay-one-perfect-shot-docuseries-hbo-max-1234728822/

the number of copycat attempts on twitter that seem to get the goal but none of the substance of that “perfect shot” aesthetic is amazing, just screenshots of any time the camera pauses on a wide shot in a superhero movie. but there’s still an intellectual curiosity there and opportunity for dialogue than just posting the same still from 2001 that’s likely been printed in a dozen Taschen volumes

mh, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

a big idea of his was software could be usable by being well designed, which is these days much less of a novel idea due in no small part to apple/iphone, he kind of won but now what kingdom is left to conquer, makes you think

lag∞n, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

did anyone ever use the iOS notes app he “designed”

it was uh, not good. although he did learn a little bit about the minutiae of file syncing

iirc this was just pre-iCloud document storage and his fan base was large enough they cut some deal to use microsoft’s file storage stuff, and then he blogged glowingly about it while anyone who had actually done software development rolled their eyes

mh, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link

the big selling points were that it had a nice font and was named after the drink/lady from the james bond movie

mh, Wednesday, 8 September 2021 17:20 (two years ago) link


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