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I was just listening to the Real Estate single, it's not bad if yr on the 80s indie fuzz wagon

At War With False Nose (DJ Mencap), Sunday, 12 July 2009 12:23 (ten years ago) link

Sounds like Galaxie 500 meets Bo Hansson to me (not an insult at all.)

He was only 21 years old when he 16 (Alex in SF), Sunday, 12 July 2009 15:44 (ten years ago) link

Is any of this available digitally? I can't find any on eMusic or iTunes...

Metro Video Centers, Sunday, 12 July 2009 15:52 (ten years ago) link

feelin' this, have yet to check out real estate

psychgawsple, Sunday, 12 July 2009 22:49 (ten years ago) link

the new parasails is pretty good too. hey, does anyone feel like posting a copy of "dancing with the one you love?" mine doesn't work and i would be forever grateful

kamerad, Monday, 13 July 2009 03:18 (ten years ago) link

i like the real estate singles. i also like that they were recorded at "yeah buddy HQ" in new brunswick, new jersey.

ian, Monday, 13 July 2009 03:22 (ten years ago) link

real estate singles are nice, agreed.

MVC, i don't think they're available as downloads yet, but the underwater peoples 7"s come w/cds in them if that's any added attraction

pretzel walrus, Monday, 13 July 2009 03:33 (ten years ago) link

Good live, especially when he stood up (w/solo).

ogmor, Monday, 13 July 2009 22:12 (ten years ago) link

A lot of this sounds like he's jamming directly over Thai music. Or sometimes like he just threw a bunch of distortion on some of that stuff. I'm not complaining. There was a period after I got back that it was the only kind of music I wanted to listen to. My friend got this CD that has 30 min songs where they just jam the fuck out on like one or 2 chords with electric 3 stringed guitars (forget their name). Sounds totally like it could have been made by jap or wburg noise kids.

Love the song titles. Sounds like a bro.

bong hitzvah (jaxon), Thursday, 16 July 2009 23:51 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

this is where i got on:

The Macallan 18 Year, Saturday, 29 August 2009 19:19 (ten years ago) link

this stuff is pretty boring. what does it have going for it other than 'it reminds me of being 7 yrs old in the 80s bcuz the wooziness is like an overplayed cassette tape'

butthurt (deej), Sunday, 30 August 2009 03:15 (ten years ago) link

how old are you?

cutty, Sunday, 30 August 2009 08:15 (ten years ago) link


butthurt (deej), Sunday, 30 August 2009 08:30 (ten years ago) link

this stuff kinda reminds me of harmonia/cluster, except at 45 rpm.

HURL CROCKERY AT THE MOSQUE (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Sunday, 30 August 2009 09:06 (ten years ago) link


kamerad, Sunday, 30 August 2009 14:05 (ten years ago) link

considering that every post in this thread is in praise of ducktails, what on earth is the point in coming just to talk shit? go and start a poll for the 17th greatest pop single of the 00s or something dude

the above youtube reminds me of a new age of earth era ashra

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Sunday, 30 August 2009 16:46 (ten years ago) link

i'm liking "parasails", i wouldn't normally seek out that split 7" but this is good stuff

psychgawsple, Monday, 31 August 2009 00:41 (ten years ago) link


Yeah, only ONE opinion per thread here, fella. Be down, or get beat down.

tea cake, Monday, 31 August 2009 01:20 (ten years ago) link

heard this the other day, pretty much love it, yup.

considering that every post in this thread is in praise of ducktails, what on earth is the point in coming just to talk shit? go and start a poll for the 17th greatest pop single of the 00s or something dude

the above youtube reminds me of a new age of earth era ashra

― damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Sunday, August 30, 2009 11:46 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lol u dont follow my posts at all do you
anywayz im not so sure whats wrong with asking someone to explain its appeal -- im not here to talk shit, im here to understand why ppl whose taste i follow i.e. max are repping for this when i think its pretty zzzz & im not sure what its doing thats so unique. i mean if were gonna go easy listening why not go all the way? this is a jam:

butthurt (deej), Monday, 31 August 2009 08:47 (ten years ago) link

that IS a jam

cutty, Monday, 31 August 2009 11:30 (ten years ago) link

tbh i just said "i dig this" which i do, also that is a jam

fleetwood (max), Monday, 31 August 2009 12:38 (ten years ago) link

i don't see that liking sunlounger and ducktails is mutually exclusive, though. deej, if you don't like it, you don't like it. i'm not going to try and convince you of its endearing musical qualities. try smoking some weed.

cutty, Monday, 31 August 2009 12:41 (ten years ago) link

fair enough if you don't like it but i dunno it just seemed like you stormed in, listened to half a youtube and decided to tell everyone it's boring in a snarky manner. my apologies if i caught the wrong end of the stick.

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Monday, 31 August 2009 13:21 (ten years ago) link

anyway i'm not max or anything but i think it has lots of appeal beyond the lofi recording aspect, much like nite jewel, the tunes are top notch and would be great regardless of the recording context. i agree alot of stuff like this suffers by making the lofi aspect its only virtue, but at the same time "overplayed cassette" wooz and hiss is to me pretty refreshing after hearing so much immaculately produced music over the last few years

damo tsu tsuki (r1o natsume), Monday, 31 August 2009 14:40 (ten years ago) link

nite jewel is pretty rad at least.

call all destroyer, Monday, 31 August 2009 14:41 (ten years ago) link

The song "Neptune City NJ" from Backyard has a mellow Terry Riley vibe to it. I like it.

Trip Maker, Monday, 31 August 2009 14:42 (ten years ago) link

deej u like crazytown so

( ´_ゝ˙) (Dr. Phil), Monday, 31 August 2009 14:46 (ten years ago) link

its ok that youre not max rio not everyone is

fleetwood (max), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:15 (ten years ago) link

max rio, p.i.

fleetwood (max), Monday, 31 August 2009 16:19 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

so the ducktails dude also does real estate right? cuz the real estate album is really great. i haven't kept up much with in vogue beachcomber seaweed indie but i like this a lot. there are def songs that sound like the shins but i think it's got a very CCR quality about it imo, laid back, backwoods guitar strumming kinda thing

nog right (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 10 November 2009 18:28 (ten years ago) link

Made a mix for my friends at the Bakery centered around the Real Estate "Fake Blues" 7" It also includes "Let's Rock the Beach" by Ducktails. They were listening to it today when I got my lunch!

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 10 November 2009 18:36 (ten years ago) link

"Dolphins..." seconded.

I missed this guy a few weeks back, too bad (saw Shoji Hano and Dean Roberts instead, which was worth it).

CharlieS, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 01:37 (ten years ago) link

Man what has Dean Roberts been doin?

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 02:42 (ten years ago) link

A few weeks ago he played a really good set with a drummer (not sure who) here in Auckland. Slow quiet improv, about what I expected his songless stuff would sound like (I'd only ever heard Be Mine Tonight). I think he's living in New Zealand again. No clue, aside from that.

CharlieS, Wednesday, 11 November 2009 03:09 (ten years ago) link

Real Estate wouldn't sound out of place entertaining the evening beach crowd at the Myrtle Beach Holiday Inn. And I mean that as a compliment.

It's Favre O'Clock Somewhere!!! (leavethecapital), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 03:55 (ten years ago) link

Really liking the two Real Estate 7"s so far, particularly "Suburban Beverage". Need to get ahold of some Ducktails stuff.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:48 (ten years ago) link

the real estate album is really nice.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:50 (ten years ago) link

Is it out? Leaked?

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:51 (ten years ago) link

yeah, i'm talking about the s/t on woodsist, but half the songs are the same as some earlier "tour cd" i had downloaded ... not even rerecorded. i'm not complaining.

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:53 (ten years ago) link

Thanks, I'll have to get ahold of that one.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:57 (ten years ago) link

plz leo that n/a thx

how rad bandit (gbx), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 16:58 (ten years ago) link

Shit is hard to google.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 17:00 (ten years ago) link

i know!

how rad bandit (gbx), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 17:01 (ten years ago) link

search on here:

congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 17:02 (ten years ago) link

Thanks, didn't know about that site.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 17:03 (ten years ago) link

these guys are playing chicago tomorrow, I am pondering going but probably won't because I am lazy.

dr johnson (askance johnson), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 17:13 (ten years ago) link

Yeah I thought about going to that, but with all the Pitchfork fawning over Girls, I'm a little wary of the annoying crowd this might draw.

& other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 11 November 2009 17:16 (ten years ago) link

Saw Real Estate @ The Funhouse (Seattle) tonight. Really nice, and a good deal more propulsive/energetic than I expected. Drummer & bassist hammer the tunes surprisingly hard. Reminded me of a bunch of different stuff: surf music, the "rhyming guitars" of Pell Mell & Love Tractor, a sort of John Frusciante version of late Pavement (plus they had Malkmus clothes), even Dire Straits. Only knew "Fake Blues" and "Pool Swimmers" going in, off a Woodsist 45 I picked up a while back, but I liked just about everything they played. Bought a copy of the new LP off them, which I'm listening to now. It's excellent, though much more relaxed & dreamy than the live show.

Band afterwards was Pill Wonder, who sounded too much like Animal Collective for my taste, so I split. A guy shooting hoops in the rain told me about clown cults in Italy, and how they used to eat people and terrorize them and so forth. The red mouth of the modern clown supposedly symbolizes the bloody jowls of this hideous cannibal clown ancestor. I dunno. Is this true? Did there used to be clown cults in Italy, and did they used to eat people? I would like to think so.

my full five minutes of iguana time (contenderizer), Thursday, 19 November 2009 08:51 (ten years ago) link

I suspect someone argued this exact point with them, hence the public clarification 1.5 years on

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Friday, 13 October 2017 20:12 (two years ago) link

Not directly related but obv relevant

BREAKING: Alex Calder dropped form @capturedtracks due to " an allegation of sexual assault".

— jesse d-s (@jesseds) October 13, 2017

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 October 2017 21:08 (two years ago) link

oh no. the national gallery of art is going to have a hell of a time uninstalling those mobiles.

how's life, Friday, 13 October 2017 21:33 (two years ago) link

I've heard things over the years about MM but nothing specific, vague things about him being a 'creep' & a predator. Behavior that was completely at odds with the 'take it easy' 'killing the vibe' pose from him. Several years ago some friends played with Real Estate & walked in on MM doing a ton of coke right before Real Estate's set. 'Duckrails' is a name I've heard often.

flappy bird, Friday, 13 October 2017 22:45 (two years ago) link

Pitchfork reporting Gaslamp Killer raped 2 women, Millions of Dead Posers posted on Facebook and said it was true

Feel like this next week is going to be stomach churning

Universal LULU Nation (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 October 2017 23:43 (two years ago) link

damn it

Erotic Wolf (crüt), Saturday, 14 October 2017 02:45 (two years ago) link

first heard rumours about Alex Calder being a creep in montreal ages ago

flopson, Saturday, 14 October 2017 04:49 (two years ago) link

"Creepy" seems like an imprecise term for people who are alleged to have assaulted people. I guess this is just what people say when they don't want to give details.

Treeship, Saturday, 14 October 2017 06:00 (two years ago) link

oh i didn't mean to imply i didn't know details. it was an open secret for at least the last... wanna say 2 years?

flopson, Saturday, 14 October 2017 06:28 (two years ago) link

I remember hearing this about Matt Mondanile some time ago... like 2009, 2010? It was after a tour in Australia. And then another independent account a few years later...

MikoMcha, Saturday, 14 October 2017 07:45 (two years ago) link

"The world of 2017 is really getting me down, time for something lighter, oh here's a thread on the delightful theme tune to Ducktails. Oh... oh..." 😔 😡

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 14 October 2017 09:23 (two years ago) link

...this guy.

Whole lotta garbage here.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 October 2017 17:43 (two years ago) link

Julia Holter's story

nomar, Thursday, 26 October 2017 02:54 (two years ago) link

three months pass...


Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2018 00:39 (two years ago) link

Matt "I respect women because I donated to RAINN" Mondanile sure loves liking anti-feminist, conservative MRA crap on Twitter

— Kat Bee (@katbeee) January 26, 2018

Ned Raggett, Friday, 26 January 2018 00:50 (two years ago) link

Calling someone out over their Twitter likes is a bit unfair though as I know a lot of people who use it as a bookmarking system rather than for agreeing with a Tweet's sentiment.

Not saying that's the case here but there's been plenty of threads about it in the last week now that other user's likes are showing up in people's feeds.

groovypanda, Friday, 26 January 2018 08:09 (two years ago) link

It's shite tbh and we should bh

i,CloudiOS (darraghmac), Friday, 26 January 2018 12:52 (two years ago) link

I mean, he admits he is an “abuser” in that facebook statement and kind of pleads for a second chance. He apologizes to Julia Holter. Maybe it’s not sincere — I wouldn’t want my female friends going near him — but it seems like a weird opportunity to pile on again. More people know Matt Mondanile is a predator than can name even one Ducktails song—he’s done.

treeship 2, Friday, 26 January 2018 13:32 (two years ago) link

It is a very self-pitying post, I’ll admit. But he’s trash—it shouldn’t be surprising.

treeship 2, Friday, 26 January 2018 13:35 (two years ago) link

Ok screenshotting the donation page in the plea for absolution is pretty lol/transparently self-serving

treeship 2, Friday, 26 January 2018 13:49 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

So I finally got around to listening to The Flower Lane and it's good!
Too bad this guy's a sex pest, though.
Any recommendations for music like this, but not by a sex pest?

Nhex, Monday, 23 March 2020 03:09 (two months ago) link

ecstatic sunshine

flappy bird, Monday, 23 March 2020 03:56 (two months ago) link

will try, ty!

Nhex, Monday, 23 March 2020 19:45 (two months ago) link

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