Kickstarter / Bandcamp / etc - C or D?

Try this:
https://bndcmpr.co/

xp

good point

Do a lot of people only listen to BC purchases on BC? It has never really occurred to me to use it as a platform like that (I always download and import to itunes)

I assume they use the bandcamp app to stream on their phones

ah right. Honestly apple's "music" app is so shitty I might end up doing that too soon enough

Yeah I download everything to my music drive for local play and if I stream just stream off the app when I'm not at home. Very very occasionally I'll stream via my desktop setup.

My hatred of iTunes is well documented. Also, I tend to move from device to device

thanks for the link Jordan!!

It's wild that I can be logged into Bandcamp on my phone, laptop and iPad and have different shopping carts for each one.

I don't use wishlists, I just add things to my shopping cart when I know I want to buy them and then wait to check out until I'm at my laptop.

Bandcamp I just want to give you money, please take it.

use the wishlist. it's great. it does what you want to do.

FINE

Yah, why would you not want to use it? Wishlist works great.

I guess the new player interface on iOS is cool but I am wary of further feature creep

now I'm using the wishlist feature and it's working great and I have a new problem

Huh.

Apparently Bandcamp got bought by is joining Epic Games (Fortnite)?

https://blog.bandcamp.com/2022/03/02/bandcamp-is-joining-epic/

Wondering what this means for the payment system.

Well I'm not seeing any NFT mentions so that's a good sign.

is this an acquisition or just a partnership? it's really vague about that and it's the part that matters most which makes me assume its the worse case

Yeah, it's the vagueness that unsettles me, plus the bit about "push(ing) development forward" on the payment system. Having seen how Fortnite does it's payment system, this could be an adjustment.

I was trying to figure that out too, it's very odd. I assume that it's a euphemism for an acquisition, from the "we're joining them" language.

And while over the years we’ve heard from other companies who wanted us to join them...

Not the other way around, or "wanted to work together", etc.

Best case scenario is Epic just wants to use Bandcamps model/software/payment system for selling games, and leaves Bandcamp the hell alone?

There's absolutely no way, if the payment system or software changes, that it doesn't go the other direction.

Epic's game store is huge, although Steam is still considerably larger. I think the monthly user numbers are something like 50 million, and they've dropped millions of dollars on time-limited giveaways of games just to lure people into their ecosystem.

I think the big play here is that Epic can use music as another wedge against Apple not allowing in-app purchases that aren't funneled through Apple's payment system or allowing apps that aren't through the App Store.

Yeah the whole Epic/Apple thing is what I’ve been thinking about here.

https://github.com/easlice/bandcamp-downloader
someone might find this useful, it's a way to download your entire collection
because the individual album method takes forEVAH

Ned to thread!

Fuck yes, hate buying a label discography and then needing to wait and press DOWNLOAD on 75 different items.

doesn't really seem like the epic acquisition changed anything, as far as i've seen

Yeah, I'm glad there's been no major enshittification so far.

Just wait

They're still letting me write for them, clearly a disaster wait hold on.

Deeply concerned about Bandcamp, Patreon and Mixcloud, thankfully all three are still ok, but this can't last forever.

Why Patreon?

Because it seems like any of these companies are liable to be bought out & ruined by a venture capitalist. They have made the right calls so far, on the whole.

patreon succeeds despite itself and its ownership imo

Only problem with Bandcamp I have had recently is really slow downloads every now and then, which is annoying when you’re trying to download 50 albums on a Bandcamp Friday.

Bandcamp unionized:

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/bandcamp-union-1234695308/

Nice!

Initial petition delivered, public campaign call on Monday:

https://bit.ly/bcu-update

Love BC
Use it all day
Just stop adding shit
Not going to end well

otm

adding what?

needless "functionality" and bloatware (guessing at what calstars meant here but that's my take)

Ned's link is to register for a Zoom webinar FYI

yeah IDGI

doh

it’s the link to a public meeting to rally support for the bandcamp employee union afaict

Yup!

I'm really surprised more bands don't just chuck up a whole bunch of soundboard recordings of their shows for a few bucks each. Seems an easy way to make some money without much extra effort.

Like this: https://bspliveseries.bandcamp.com/

Some bands don't like to have live recordings out there unless they're properly curated, mixed and so on. Plus, it might adversely affect sales should they decide to release a proper live album later.

I guess that’s so, but I would imagine the people who buy live albums tend to be completists anyway.