yeah and it was repulsive when journos were enabling/covering for this stuff in the 60s/70s from artists who openly bragged about it (some still do)
this is supposed to be a more sensitive era with more sensitive bands and media but it often feels like the most radical change is in the marketing
― die britain die (Left), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:46 (three years ago) link
at the time they were just seen together a lot and there were rumours, and then a few years later tavi implicitly confirmed they'd dated in her book i think it was
even if he hadn't done anything untoward, it showed extremely bad judgment on his part, and now it's possibly worse than that
there's other artists who've done similar stuff recently, matty healy dated an 18 year old when he was 27 which is again at the very least quite bad judgment, it's bleak
― ufo, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:08 (three years ago) link
Men are generally not emotionally smart enough to understand that when you are 30 dating anyone under 23 is not a good look, I can't imagine how someone who has a #1 album at age 24 is supposed to live in something other than a total moral vacuum.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:16 (three years ago) link
Yeah the "rich but not famous" part doesn't really sound square tbh. I don't know how rich he is, but I'd say he's at least as famous as he is rich. He definitely didn't need her to get into New York parties in 2015. He is most likely one of the other ones she talks about, though.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:38 (three years ago) link
yeah that's my read of it too
― ufo, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:59 (three years ago) link
I think it complicates things that she says in the piece that she doesn't want him named or canceled, so I don't know what kind of statement he could make at this point (although she must have known the speculation that would ensue).
― change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 01:16 (three years ago) link
i think it's weird that this person i've never heard of wrote a thing that names no one and the guy from VW is supposed to do something about it?
― alpine static, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:17 (three years ago) link
This all is gonna make the announcement that Woody Allen will be playing clarinet on the next VW album that much more awkward.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:20 (three years ago) link
well if alpine static hasn't heard of you why bother
― nothing (Left), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, March 8, 2021 9:20 PM (fifty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Guilty lol
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 03:15 (three years ago) link
I’m still baffled that there’s been no press mention of the fact that the drummer and bassist of this band don’t appear to have played on the album at all.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 27 March 2021 15:35 (three years ago) link
Like, even if everyone in the bands is cool with that reality, it’s weird that it isn’t mentioned anywhere.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 27 March 2021 15:41 (three years ago) link
All that said - I have somewhat of an allergy to bands where it feels like the front person plus whoever, where the interviews come down to that person and that person doesn’t even mention band mates.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 27 March 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link
if you scroll up a bit, there's something a bit more urgent pertaining to this band that the music press should mention
(though I get why they haven't for legal/ethical/journalistic/etc. reasons)
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link
Nbd but I don't think that's true, I think it's the band rhythm section of everything unless otherwise noted
― change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 27 March 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link
Murgatriod, yes, I am quite aware of that and I agree. Hopefully it didn’t seem like I was trying to minimize that story. And, yes, I’m quite aware that my revive was pedantic and won’t matter to anyone else really
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:03 (three years ago) link
Jordan, it’s just really weird to look at album credits (online and on the physical CD) and encounter absolutely zero reference to the band members other than the leader.
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:05 (three years ago) link
Online it seems like they're primarily writing/production credits, not performance credits (except for the guests)? But yeah it's a weird omission.
― change display name (Jordan), Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link
It makes Rostam Batmanglij's departure more understandable, when he talked about having his work "stand on its own."
― birdistheword, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link
Like the implication it needs to be recognized outfront and on its own instead of potentially buried or uncredited altogether.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 27 March 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
I thought Modern Vampires made clear that in the studio Koenig and (before he skedaddled) Batmanglij did most of the playing and programming.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:18 (three years ago) link
Rostam’s solo stuff is great - on par with any of the VW stuff but a little more sonically adventurous. His new singles are getting me excited for the new LP.
― DJI, Saturday, 27 March 2021 18:23 (three years ago) link
No way -- the lyrics and singing aren't halfway as interesting.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 27 March 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link
Yeah from what I know his work has the former guitarist from a famous band gone solo syndrom : the music can be interesting but the vocal/lyrical side is weak...
― AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 27 March 2021 19:22 (three years ago) link
I dig it.
― DJI, Saturday, 27 March 2021 22:23 (three years ago) link
This song I've never heard before came up on Spotify, and I assumed it was a song by Vampire Weekend, specifically, from this album, that I didn't know. But it's not, it's a song by the Jerry Garcia band from 1978!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YZEEQdpPzg
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 19:40 (two years ago) link
haha, nice
― corrs unplugged, Thursday, 29 July 2021 09:38 (two years ago) link
Yeah they were sort of open about the Jerry Garcia influence on this album and even played a lick from china cat sunflower on their cover of Post Malone’s sunflower - and they also played bits of their own song “sunflower” in it.
Iirc some Vampire Weekend members even played with The Grateful Dead in a concert tribute to Jerry Garcia.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 29 July 2021 11:02 (two years ago) link
Yeah, and I remember reading an interview with Ezra where he said this album was musically inspired specifically by the Jerry Garcia Band rather than the Grateful Dead. This makes total sense after hearing "Rubin and Cherise"
― J. Sam, Thursday, 29 July 2021 13:03 (two years ago) link
Whoa, so I was actually right! I thought maybe this was one of those things where it sounded identical to me but it was some idiosyncratic thing about my ear/brain.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link
Yep
“Father of the Bride” isn’t total dad-rock; it’s got weird beats and processed synth sounds and samples of tracks by Hans Zimmer and the Japanese electronic musician Haruomi Hosono — evidence of the “adaptability” that led promoter Craig Nyman to book Vampire Weekend as one of the few rock acts (alongside Post Malone and Billie Eilish) at September’s Life Is Beautiful festival in Las Vegas.But pay close attention to “Stranger” — especially the little instrumental section after the second verse — and you’ll catch an undeniable whiff of the Jerry Garcia Band.“And I’m talking JGB, not the Dead,” Koenig said. “That’s an important distinction.”
But pay close attention to “Stranger” — especially the little instrumental section after the second verse — and you’ll catch an undeniable whiff of the Jerry Garcia Band.
“And I’m talking JGB, not the Dead,” Koenig said. “That’s an important distinction.”
https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-ent-vampire-weekend-feature-0507-story.html
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
Gotta assume that's influence from his Time Crisis co-host (who has a Grateful Dead tribute band)
― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/grateful-dead-phish-vampire-weekend-members-on-jerry-garcia-tribute-177078/
It was the drummer Chris Tomson in 2012.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Thursday, 29 July 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link