Continuing with CDs?

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If you were in SF I'd say just go here:

http://booksandbookshelves.com/

But, I gather, you're not.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 6 March 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

Damn, wish I could! Yep, other coast (Providence, RI)

Soundslike, Saturday, 6 March 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link

I just ordered one of these:

https://www.cdrackshoppe.com/2413-cherry.html

It's pretty much the only 2000+ capacity off-the-shelf (heh) model out there I could find under $500. The shelves are only 1/4" thick, so I'm going to add some 3/8" dowel rods at the midway points of each shelf to prevent sagging. After this fills up (or if it's crap) I'll go for something custom-made made locally. You really need shelves at least 1/2" thick and no longer than 24" long or they'll sag.

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Saturday, 6 March 2021 16:38 (three years ago) link

If you can get someone to build you some, it def would look best in your space

Whiney G. Weingarten, Saturday, 6 March 2021 16:39 (three years ago) link

another vote for a custom build here

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Saturday, 6 March 2021 16:40 (three years ago) link


I just ordered one of these:

https://www.cdrackshoppe.com/2413-cherry.html

It's pretty much the only 2000+ capacity off-the-shelf (heh) model out there I could find under $500. The shelves are only 1/4" thick, so I'm going to add some 3/8" dowel rods at the midway points of each shelf to prevent sagging. After this fills up (or if it's crap) I'll go for something custom-made made locally. You really need shelves at least 1/2" thick and no longer than 24" long or they'll sag.

― so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Saturday, March 6, 2021 4:38 PM

Curious how that one will go. Oddly, even that one is sort of space-inefficient by not being very tall. If I owned the apartment I'm moving into, I'd have 8' tall built-ins built under the loft, but I don't so it has to be "furniture"... I also know that movers typically have statements that basically they refuse to move MDF-based furniture as basically it never survives a move, so I'm hesitant to buy like 3 of those and have them become trash when I eventually move again...

So I'm thinking DIY, or custom-made is probably how I'll go...

This would theoretically be disassemblable, but even it only holds 2,400 CDs and is again pretty short, so not that space efficient: https://www.boltz.com/cd-floor-rack-shelving-cd-2400.html

Anyone seen any clever DIY solutions?

Soundslike, Saturday, 6 March 2021 17:00 (three years ago) link

https://bookwalls.com/ ?

Canon in Deez (silby), Saturday, 6 March 2021 17:16 (three years ago) link

those Bookwalls are super cool but the minimum depth looks like 12"?

I like signing up to dead sites (sleeve), Saturday, 6 March 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

yeah, I think modernshelving.com might be plan B if this prepack shelf turns out to be subpar... sturdy and high-capacity (but will probably cost a couple grand)

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Saturday, 6 March 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

Looking forward to the point when still keeping CDs looks cool rather than weird.

candyman, Saturday, 6 March 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

Have any of you ever worried about storing media (books, records, CDs) on a second or third floor of your dwelling? The anxiety of weight limit actually never even occurred to me until recently when I moved into a two-story apartment. The house was built in the 50s, and I assume it was never meant to withstand 5,000+ CDs, 2,000+ LPs, and two tremendous oak bookshelves, which of course weigh far more than the people + furniture for which the top floor was intended. I'm suddenly gripped with the fear of the ceiling collapsing and being literally buried under this stuff, just as an ex once prophesized

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 6 March 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link

i think you can help by arranging things so they are parallel with the floorboards, and thus straddle multiple joists

some fishtank talk here:
https://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=257160&sid=ccae285a8894e3cb983f1a9ce9996483&cmpredirect#p257160

i did once get asked to move rooms from 3rd floor to draughty garage conversion because of my stuff. i have 20 years more stuff now.

koogs, Saturday, 6 March 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link

Weight near external walls or load bearing walls is way safer too - remember they are engineered to support the building above them.

assert (MatthewK), Saturday, 6 March 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

All of that is helpful, thanks!

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 6 March 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link

You could evenly spread it out so they literally cover the whole floor lol

candyman, Saturday, 6 March 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

You could evenly spread it out so they literally cover the whole floor lol

― candyman, Saturday, March 6, 2021 3:00 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

heaven!

unfortunately it's a shared space

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 6 March 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

Half a dozen CDs weigh about a pound... so 2k CDs is ~334lbs (less if a lot of them are digipaks, of which you need about ten to make a pound). That's about the weight of a largish sofa. And the bigger the shelf, the more the weight is distributed. So even 4k CDs are probably not a big deal, unless the shelf is like two feet wide and twelve feet high.

I knew a guy who had floor-to-ceiling vinyl shelves in his apartment and the management saw it and made him move from a 2nd floor unit to one on the ground floor. Of course vinyl is a different story... it only takes two records to weigh a pound, not half a dozen. And they're much more tightly packed on a shelf.

Fish tanks and waterbeds are an issue because yes, they weigh a lot for their size, but also because they tend to fail catastrophically.

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Saturday, 6 March 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link


I'm planning on getting a wall mounted system from https://www.modernshelving.com/ for records and books, but the CDs look nice too.

Did you find shelves that are specifically CD depth? Having a bit of trouble navigating the site to find such a thing...

Soundslike, Sunday, 7 March 2021 03:52 (three years ago) link

they have 6" depth shelves there, yes

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Sunday, 7 March 2021 04:04 (three years ago) link

I ditched my jewel cases 20 years ago and never looked back. The advent of vinyl + digital download deals has made buying new CDs an extremely rare occurrence either way.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 7 March 2021 04:12 (three years ago) link

yeah the 6” shelves will work for their wall-mounted shelves not the pole mounted ones.
they also have a free custom design service over the phone.
xps

mizzell, Sunday, 7 March 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link

actually, i see that the picture i posted is the pole mounted system, but i'm not sure how that works. i would def call them to discuss if you are interested.

mizzell, Monday, 8 March 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link

Nice job finding a matching pillow, mizzell.

Evan, Monday, 8 March 2021 17:28 (three years ago) link

CDs might take up more space, but will always sound better than spotify.

candyman, Monday, 8 March 2021 17:29 (three years ago) link

There's an interesting pro-CD thread going on over at Neko Case's FB page, with Steve Wynn amongst others chiming in with their takes.

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 8 March 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

What do folks think between these, for custom shelves I may try to get built:

I can't figure out if I'll love having a library of music I can see for the first time in 28 years of buying music, or if I'll feel dumb for seeing how many "possessions" that adds up to : \ pic.twitter.com/s6IyKEUnCY

— Musicophilia (@musicophiliamix) March 10, 2021

Soundslike, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

Custom shelving tip: don't use the bottommost shelf to store CDs. They'll get dusty as hell, get kicked, and silverfish will eat them.

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

I'll put the ones I don't care about that much on the bottom, then ; )

Thanks for the tip!

Soundslike, Wednesday, 10 March 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link

xp I read this as referring to ILX poster “silverfish”!

stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

somebody buy silverfish a pizza

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Wednesday, 10 March 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

CDs aren’t ugly

brimstead, Monday, 15 March 2021 17:56 (three years ago) link

We recently ditched our CD rack (as part of a living room redesign) and stashed away most our CDs in storage bags like these. We kept a small batch out for quick access & "display" purposes.

The bags are obv. inconvenient if you dip deep into your CD collection a lot, but... well, we don't.

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Monday, 15 March 2021 18:01 (three years ago) link

I'd settle for the plastic wallets like you get in 2nd hand record shops

candyman, Monday, 15 March 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link

CDs aren’t ugly

― brimstead, Monday, 15 March 2021 18:56 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

This ^. Really annoys me when articles make this lazy claim.

Duke, Monday, 15 March 2021 19:53 (three years ago) link

haha, yeah, what is ugly about them?

tylerw, Monday, 15 March 2021 19:55 (three years ago) link

Jewel cases use to be nicer, I’ll admit that

brimstead, Monday, 15 March 2021 19:58 (three years ago) link

ive gotta admit that i've always disliked how a shelf full of vinyl usually looks like a nondescript row of brownish paper files with some thin shards of color here & there. at least CDs have artwork and color on the spines that you can actually see and which is inviting to scan with your eyes.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 15 March 2021 20:04 (three years ago) link

Updated design on the CD shelves: just going down one wall w/ 7 units for a total , added a toekick, total capacity around 5,500 and will see how that goes, and get more later (the rest stay in boxes)... pic.twitter.com/UaBBS3w2m7

— Musicophilia (@musicophiliamix) March 15, 2021

Soundslike, Monday, 15 March 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

I seen a few people upthread saying CDs are ugly and I never understood that

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 15 March 2021 20:49 (three years ago) link

I agree that shelves of vinyl can look messy - especially as the spines get worn & torn. At least CDs tend to be clean and neat, and the CD-size box sets tend to have interesting details on the outward-facing edge, etc.

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:14 (three years ago) link

(Oddly sized box sets are more problematic... I've never found a great way of storing/displaying my One Kiss Can Lead to Another "shoebox," as cool as that packaging is.)

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:15 (three years ago) link

(Those specially sized "just a little too tall" digipaks also drive me nuts!)

beer drops on my keytar (morrisp), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

Whenever I see an article about music formats that includes "CDs are ugly" as a given "fact" in the first paragraph, I immediately stop reading.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

I'm a CD fan and defender but CD packaging can be really ugly. You ever look at a pile of broken, discarded, possibly cracked jewel cases?

Paul Ponzi, Monday, 15 March 2021 21:22 (three years ago) link

In photographs of people's collections, it's always easy to spot someone's Impulse records section.

Maresn3st, Monday, 15 March 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link

Or anything on Island records.

Maresn3st, Monday, 15 March 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link

Well, of course, but by that metric any packaging would look awful if you're abusing it to the point of cracking/damaging it.

Not saying I'm not annoyed by Amazon's recent insistence on doing virtually nothing to protect CDs shipped in jewel cases, but that isn't the fault of the format. I'm also a digipak guy, I think they look better and take up less shelf space, but I know a lot of people dislike them.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 15 March 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link


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