S/D Peter Brotzmann

Holy shit I didn't know that existed somehow, the WELS concert is a desert island disc for me, I'm losing it.

So...this happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_vruhZkAO4

Making fun of free jazz like it's 1965. (To be fair, it's probably one of the larger audiences Brotzmann has reached.)

Sounds like Brotz (per his exchange with Heather Leigh that she posted) doesn't really care, which isn't a big shock.

Like I mentioned on Twitter, if this same thing had happened when I was in high school and Jay Leno played a bit of "Nipples" and said it was awful, I would have hit the ground running the next morning trying to find a copy and I'm sure kids are doing the same thing today.

And for the record I hated Fallon before it was cool

I'm just surprised that Questlove sat there and chuckled along without saying anything, that dude knows Brotzmann's legacy/collabs for sure.

The jazz "jokes" would have been dated during the Steve Allen-era Tonight Show

Re: Questlove, not entire surprised as it reminds me of why Wynton Marsalis quit The Tonight Show - he got sick of having to suck up to a smarmy ass wipe like Leno. Fallon is basically Leno-lite.

*entirely

Yeah, I guess it's not his place to push back on the boss' stupid bits like that, just bugs me knowing he has a much deeper appreciation for music than that dumb skit allows for.

if this same thing had happened when I was in high school and Jay Leno played a bit of "Nipples" and said it was awful, I would have hit the ground running the next morning trying to find a copy and I'm sure kids are doing the same thing today.

I doubt very much that they are

You don't think there are weird kids these days who like dissonant music? There might not be a lot of them but I'm positive they exist.

I'm just going to guess that weird kids who like dissonant music aren't watching Fallon at all now that shit like that is easily avoided (until something like goes viral, that is).

The problem is that now social media is full of cranky middle-aged fuckers typing in all caps about HOW DARE JIMMY FALLON MAKE FUN OF THE GREAT PETER BRÖTZMANN and nothing makes a teenager/young person LESS likely to investigate something than seeing an old person rave about it.

The funny thing to me is I literally played Machine Gun for my older kid just last week. He dug it.

The problem is that now social media is full of cranky middle-aged fuckers typing in all caps about HOW DARE JIMMY FALLON MAKE FUN OF THE GREAT PETER BRÖTZMANN and nothing makes a teenager/young person LESS likely to investigate something than seeing an old person rave about it.

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, September 9, 2021 3:35 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes clearly it is the jazz police who are the problem

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen and I'm placing you all under arrest

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Brotzmann feels like a serious outlier among those 4. I suspect Questlove and Dumbass Fallon are probably both fans, testing the waters to see if they could get away with playing difficult free jazz on NBC in 2021. They've become jaded with the monotony of their depressingly bleak programming.

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https://www.stereogum.com/2119421/jimmy-fallon-did-a-bit-about-a-song-by-obscure-slint-offshoot-king-kong/news/

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Schwarzwaldfahrt inspired my neighbors to call the jazz police on one occasion.

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Fallon was so mean about like, literal children. What a prick. Why would you do that? The whole bit is mean-spirited and shitty.

Schwarzwaldfahrt inspired my neighbors to call the jazz police on one occasion.

was wondering when this fab record was gonna get a mention

^^^ sickest jams

The whole bit is mean-spirited and shitty.

otm, I've never watched the show beyond the occasional viral musical clip, but that is a seriously low-rent segment, just dunking on musicians. wtf. I thought his whole shtick was that he was like an inoffensive nice guy

idk, man, it's a cheap bit but then again most Fallon things kind of revel in cheap emotions (nostalgic recognition, juxtaposition, epic baconness, applause) that aren't exactly "jokes" per se.

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whichever boomer hipster on Fallon's staff that got King Kong and Brotzmann played is definitely responsible for getting a Mark Prindle CDR on the segment a few months back

Are boomers aware of Mark Prindle? He's in his 40s.

'The Jazz Police' was the original title for 'The Dream of the Blue Turtles' iirc

Thanks ums

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'The Jazz Police' was the original title for 'The Dream of the Blue Turtles' iirc

Wasn't that a Cheap Trick song?

Colbert really put a lot more effort into the same kind of bit: https://www.cc.com/video/o1qorx/the-colbert-report-who-s-not-honoring-me-now-the-macarthur-foundation

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'The Jazz Police' was the original title for 'The Dream of the Blue Turtles' iirc

Wasn't that a Cheap Trick song?

― birdistheword, Friday, September 10, 2021 7:31 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

It was a jazzy album Sting made after he left The Police, I was making a crap joke, sorry.

that is the one weak track on Leonard Cohen's "I'm Your Man" --

:-(

Facts: a statement from Peter Brötzmann about his health situation pic.twitter.com/dXYyYm7DE9

— Heather Leigh (@wishimage) March 23, 2023

man, I hope he is on the mend, this is a major dude.

Truly sucks to hear this, and hoping for the best. That one time I caught him with Keiji Haino was a hell of a night.

He played in London last month - sold out in seconds flat so I couldn't go. Hoping he recovers.

The only jazz gig I've ever been to where they were handing out ear plugs before the concert was by Herr Brötzmann (of course)!

RIP to the good man.

:(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbVpx5-XYng

Great, great artist. RIP

RIP, peter

rip. somehow missed the brotzmann/leigh duo when they played here, but have an enduring memory of the one time i did see him: a hulking form in a long coat wandering around port chalmers puffing away on a cigar before filling an ex-masonic hall with the most glorious sounds.

:-(

Farewell to the legendary free-jazz saxophonist Peter Brötzmann (1941-2023). Though he's known for his fearsomely fierce improvisations, he was also a great visual artist. This publication is just amazing. pic.twitter.com/X67z0WZ04v

— Robin Rimbaud - Scanner (@robinrimbaud) June 23, 2023

truly saddened by this news, just a total GOAT.

Are there any other of his recordings more in the vein of Last Exit's Iron Path?

Somehow I remember hearing about that.