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same tho

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 March 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link

Loop Hero rules

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 March 2021 02:30 (three years ago) link

...

The game opens with your hero—and nearly everyone else—waking from an amnesia-like blackout. In a daze, your hero sees a single road ahead and marches forward to jog their memory, unaware that it's a loop—but also uncovering more monsters, landmarks, and increasingly powerful weapons with every step on the path.

In gameplay terms, this means you can walk away from Loop Hero after its opening plot sequence and watch your hero auto-walk and auto-battle until they die. (Upon every death, the world's amnesia haze consumes you, and you start over in another blacked-out world.) Your hero's movement tracks along a loop (not a round one, mind you, but made of chunky '80s-computing right angles), with the hero and enemies appearing as tiny icons. Whenever the hero walks into a foe, a larger "battle" window opens up with higher-res versions of each hero and monster, and everyone auto-slashes each other until one side is dead. Huh. That's it?

Of course, it's not that simple. In your very first adventure, the wimpy enemies you kill will either drop items or "cards." The former are limited to equippable fare (weapons, armor, shields, rings), and like in most RPGs, these primarily tweak your battling stats. The latter play into the game's rolling-amnesia angle, because you're asked to rebuild your forgotten world one landmark at a time. Some landmarks, like meadows and mountains, add bonuses to your stats. Others, like a cemetery or a haunted mansion, will add new, deadlier monsters to your looped path.

Loop Hero truly begins once you realize its gimmick: you need to place landmarks around your loop to jog your memory and reach each new threshold of world recovery, and you need to place these landmarks intentionally to help your hero survive and get stronger. Jog your memory enough, and you'll find a boss to fight on a loop. With each new loop, everything starts anew, and you'll have to accrue new gear, place new landmarks, and hunt for a new boss. (We'll get to how all of these randomly generated loops chain together in a second.)

Placing all the deadliest landmarks in a single corner of a loop will go poorly, for starters. You'll do better when you realize how certain landmarks play off of each other—like a "dry grove" that generates annoying rats but also lets you plant a helpful, enemy-killing "blood grove," so long as it's adjacent to the dry one. That's a simple chain reaction, then: spread dry groves out early on so that their squares overlap with the "generate super-deadly vampires" mansions in ways that let the blood groves do some helpful damage.

...

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/03/loop-hero-review-ive-somehow-gotten-hooked-on-an-rpg-that-plays-itself/

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 March 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link

the last paragraph of that review already seems true to me too, even though i've only installed it earlier today:

For a so-called "automatic" game, Loop Hero sure presents enough questions and choices to get me invested in its missions, its accumulation of city structures, and its organic lessons about how to max out a particular loop. I haven't felt this surprised and engaged by a mix of new and familiar in a game since Slay the Spire. That description should terrify anybody who is not in need of another unique gaming obsession, because if my addiction is any indication, Loop Hero could very well burrow into your brain for the next few weeks. You've been warned.

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Friday, 5 March 2021 02:44 (three years ago) link

I played through the first act. I played the SNES ones as a kid and watched my friend play through ten, but otherwise I know nothing about this series. It's very cool so far FOR AN RPG.

Quibble: When Cloud does a double-backflip in a cutscene, it makes me wonder why he couldn't mantle over those small crates a few minutes earlier.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 5 March 2021 03:10 (three years ago) link

were you at all familiar with the story?

the big thing about ff7 remake is it’s not really a remake of the game ff7 per se, but a remake of the plot, with the possibility for change

mh, Friday, 5 March 2021 03:31 (three years ago) link

I'd watched the Tim Rogers video so I understood the basic scenario but that's about it.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 5 March 2021 16:59 (three years ago) link

Paper Mario (N64) is VERY fun
Star Fox 64 is also sort of fun but is underwhelming me a bit

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 8 March 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link

I started playing the original FF7 maybe a year ago and sunk like 20 hours into it but haven't picked it up in 6 months and I really should before I forget everything entirely

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 8 March 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link

yeah i was playing it over the holidays and havent touched it since whoops

ciderpress, Monday, 8 March 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link

the gamecube paper mario is a top 10 nintendo game

ciderpress, Monday, 8 March 2021 14:45 (three years ago) link

I'm at what i think is the final bowser in mario 3d world and got a little bored so tried bowser's fury which is lots of fun. hoping to galvanize the gamer sense and power my way through both in the next week or two and then see if I can sty focused on FF7 Remake. Gaming still not coming easy but there are some stess-killing rewards to an active fantasy life that comes with a controller.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 March 2021 15:05 (three years ago) link

Ni no Kuni on Switch. Fun! Slowly reveals itself as a Pokemon style game. Some nostalgia associated with that concept for me, as I liked Jade Cocoon way back when that came out for PS2.

Evan, Monday, 8 March 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

Alright, I have a massive pile of PHYSICAL MEDIA, remember that? I'm tired of keeping it in a box over my closet. Any NYC ILXor gamers have any use for a 360, PS2, Wii and PS with something like 80 games? And does anyone need a gamecube?

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:39 (three years ago) link

sorry: does anyone need gamecube GAMES. I lost my cube some days back.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:39 (three years ago) link

Have you noticed any cube-shaped holes that suddenly disappeared? Seems like it has to be around there somewhere

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 8 March 2021 23:52 (three years ago) link

Forks as a collector of retro games I will pay you money to ship them to me in maryland

But also I have to point out that gamecube games in general can fetch a good sum on ebay, especially post-covid inflation. Many ps1 games too of course

, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:11 (three years ago) link

Like even the gamecube games you would not assume have any value at all could go for 20+

Throw your collection up on clist for a reasonable price and it'll be sold in minutes

, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link

the day forks turned the cube-shaped hole in his wall into 1 ETH

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:16 (three years ago) link

X, you seem to know a lot about this so if you wanna help I would greatly appreciate that help!

Here's the pile as typed up by my gf as i shouted it from across the house:

Harmonix wireless keyboard for Rock Band 3 Playstation
Collapsible Guitar Hero Guitar for Wii
Wii Fit Pad
Playstation 2
Playstation 3
Wii
Xbox 360
Ouya

Playstation 2 Games
ESPN Basketball
MGS3 Snake Eater
Guitar Hero
Karaoke Revolution 3
Gran Turismo 3 A-SPEC
Frequency
Virtua Fighter 4
MGS2
Dynasty Warriors 3
GTA San Andreas
Rogue Galaxy
DDR Max2
Katamari Damacy
Xenosaga
Final Fantasy 10
Final Fantasy 12 Collector's Edition
Persona 3
Madden 2003
We Love Katamari
Dragon Quest 8
Street Fighter Anniversary
Hitman Contracts
Hitman Blood Money
Hitman 2

GameCube Games
Pikmin
Super Monkey Ball
Animal Crossing
Super Smash Brothers Melee
F Zero GX
Metroid Prime
Starfox Adventures
Soul Calibur 2
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time
Legend of Zelda Windwaker

XBox 360 Games
Mass Effect 2
Dragon Age Origins
Far Cry 2
Red Dead Redemption
Bioshock 2
Just Cause 2
Fifa Soccer 2009
Brutal Legend
Genesis Collection
Madden 2016
Culdcept Saga
Arkham Asylum
Condemned
MLB2K8
Fifa Soccer 10
Mass Effect
Popcap Arcade
XBox Live Arcade
NBA2K16
Arkham City
Gears of War
Mass Effect 3
Guitar Hero Aerosmith
SSX
The Orange Box
Ghost Recon
Forza Motorsports 2
Resident Evil 5
Unreal Tournament
Fable 2
Fall out 3
Xcom
Enemy Unknown
Witcher 2 Enhanced
Elder Scrolls Oblivion
Saints Row 3
Dead Rising
Left For Dead
Red Faction Guerilla
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Forza Motorsport 2
Civilization Revolution
Assassin's Creed
Way of the Samurai 3

Wii
Zelda Twilight Princess
Little King Story
Sam and Max
Madden 08
Guitar Hero 3
Endless Ocean
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Super Smash Brothers Brawl
Wii Fit

Xbox One
MBS2K15
Star Wars BattleFront

Playstation 3
Demon Souls
Dark Souls 2
NBA2K11
Uncharted 1
LA Noire
Mortal Kombat
Deus Ex
Ico and Shadow of Colossus
Fallout New Vegas
Portal 2
Borderlands
Katamari Forever
MGS4
The Last of Us
Rockband 3
Madden 11
Nino Kuni Collector's Metal Box
Valkyria Chronicles
Elder Scrolls Skyrim
3D Dot Game Heroes
Uncharted 2
Dishonored
Dark Souls Collector's Edition Metal Box

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:24 (three years ago) link

I am wary about mail because our local post office is among the worst post offices in the country but i'm open to suggestions.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link

and estimates as to what a "reasonable price" for that pile is? It probably represents like 3k lost cash to me; would be overjoyed to get back 500 tbh.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:28 (three years ago) link

I'm interested. I will webmail you when I figure out what I want out of that.
Also, some of the stuff you have listed is worth crazy money. As much as I'd love to steal it from you, go look up what Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn is worth.

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:34 (three years ago) link

things that immediately stand out as valuable:
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Xenosaga, but mainly Part III if you have it
Gamecube has been rocketing in price, check against this site https://www.pricecharting.com/console/gamecube

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:35 (three years ago) link

Yikes, who knew! I mostly just need to clear this stuff out!

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:36 (three years ago) link

i will trade you a 0.078 ETH gif I made from 2009 (my rookie card) for radiant dawn

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:38 (three years ago) link

do you really have an ouya

do these games have their original box and manual? if so you could probably swing 500 on ebay just from the gamecube games, radiant dawn, persona 3 depending on which version it is

if i saw this collection on clist for 500 i'd consider it, which means someone else would scoop it up before i have a chance to email you about it. if you wanted to open up shop on ebay and sell them one by one you would make double that.

if you want to get rid of things i'd just look up the prices of everything on pricecharting, keep in mind the condition everything is in and if they're CIB, and putting them up on craigslist for like 75% of that. and lower the price a bit if no one bites. it's a good collection!

, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:43 (three years ago) link

keep in mind pricecharting is based on ebay prices and people expect to a discount from that if they're buying on craigslist

, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:45 (three years ago) link

is this the ni no kuni metal box thing? if so, woof

, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:47 (three years ago) link

thanks, i was a """gamer""" fairly recently
i really have an ouya! it's virtually unplayed.
80% of the games are original box and manual except for the garbage ones like Madden 16. I suppose I could rerummage for condition.
The thing is that i really don't have the stomach or the patience to deal with mailing or listing; just mostly wanna dump the whole collection. I'm gonna have to move again soon and most of this has been in the closet for five years. probably time to let it go. Hit me off thread via ilxmail with contact info and maybe we can work something out?

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:49 (three years ago) link

you guys are convincing me to do a more serious inventory

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link

oh i'm not trying to get you to sell them to me, i'm super cheap! and it would cost a ton for you to ship all of that. put it all up on craigslist, make some $$$, don't get craigslist murdered

or i will try to convince some NYC ilxor to start collecting retro games too, but then i will also have to cajole them into getting a proper CRT

, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 01:03 (three years ago) link

i dunno, craiglist before the pandemic was already pretty sketch...

do a real inventory! or bring the stuff with you to the new place, then do it

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 01:33 (three years ago) link

sent you an ilxmail forks

option F is to keep your games, start collecting more, get yourself a proper CRT and component cables

, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link

If forks is trying to reclaim space I doubt acquiring a CRT is going to go over with his partner lol

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:08 (three years ago) link

all it takes is one look at a fifth or sixth generation game in its native 240p resolution to understand the tremendous value a 120-pound CRT provides any living space

, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:12 (three years ago) link

I just worry he might accidentally attract pro Melee players to his place

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:15 (three years ago) link

i have an open source scan converter and cleanly scaled 240p games look pretty gorgeous thru it on an hdtv-- but the interlaced signal (most) ps2 games put out (but not prince of persia!) is far from crt-quality. (also the other day while i was playing final fantasy xii a gecko shit inside it and shorted it out. bounced back tho)

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:18 (three years ago) link

forks would you like.... sell just the ps3 and a handful of those games separately 👀

Warmed Regards, (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link

or at least wait til we get our stimmy checks

Nhex, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 03:19 (three years ago) link

Omg I want your GameCube games really bad and I am nyc based. I was too excited to read the subsequent posts!

Evan, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 05:10 (three years ago) link

Yeah seriously that GameCube stack is wall to wall classics (plus StarFox Adventures)

Canon in Deez (silby), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 05:27 (three years ago) link

I was going to say I'd buy Persona 3 from you but used copies are going for at least $30 on ebay!

RZA Minnelli (Leee), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 05:48 (three years ago) link

https://semenar.itch.io/incremental-game-jam-game

do not click if you value your time

wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 09:24 (three years ago) link

This worked out better than i hoped! Let me look over these responses and mail a few of you back and I'll follow up on this thread.

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

OKAY! I did a deep dive inventory and also rummaged around and found my old pile of loose (with manual) Playstation 1 and Dreamcast games, did a fast inventory of box quality and here's the revised pile alphabetized and graded. How am I doing here?

Harmonix wireless keyboard to use with Rock Band 3 for Playstation 3 - Loose, excellent condition
Collapsible Guitar Hero for Wii - Loose with strap
Wii Fit Pad - Loose
Playstation 2 + joystick
Playstation 3
Wii with two wiimotes
Xbox 360 x 2 with joysticks
Ouya - loose with all wires, unplayed condition (lol)

Dreamcast Games:
Bust a Move 4 - Loose with Manual -
Crazy Taxi - Loose with Manual -
Evolution - Loose with Manual -
Jet Grind Radio - Loose with Manual -
NBA 2K1 (Allen Iverson) - Loose with Manual -
NFL 2K (Randy Moss, Vikings) - Loose with Manual -
Resident Evil: Code Veronica - Loose with Manual -
Seaman - Loose with Manual -
Shenmue Jukebox - Loose -
Sonic Adventure - Loose with Manual -
Space Channel 5 - Loose with Manual -
Web Browser 2.0 with SegaNet - Loose - 

GameCube Games:
Animal Crossing - CIB -
F Zero GX - CIB -
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - CIB -
Legend of Zelda: Windwaker - CIB -
Metroid Prime - CIB -
Pikmin - Loose with Manual - 
Soul Calibur 2 - CIB -
Starfox Adventures - CIB -
Super Monkey Ball - CIB -
Super Smash Brothers Melee - CIB -

Wii Games:
Endless Ocean - CIB -
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn - CIB
Guitar Hero 3 - CIB -
Little King Story - CIB - 
Sam and Max - CIB - 
Super Mario Galaxy 2 - CIB -
Super Smash Brothers Brawl - CIB -
Wii Fit - CIB -
Zelda Twilight Princess - CIB with a spare box/manual - 

XBox 360 Games:
Arkham Asylum - CIB -
Arkham City - CIB - 
Assassin's Creed - Manual and Disc in Clear Box - 
Bioshock 2 - CIB -
Brutal Legend - CIB -
Civilization Revolution - CIB - 
Condemned Platinum Hits - CIB
Culdcept Saga - CIB -
Dead Rising Platinum Hits - CIB -
Dragon Age Origins - CIB -
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion - CIB -
Fable 2 - CIB with strategy guide - 
Fallout 3 - CIB -
Far Cry 2 - CIB -
Fifa Soccer 10 - CIB - 
Fifa Soccer 2009 - CIB -
Forza Motorsports 2 - Loose
Gears of War - Manual and Disc in Clear Box - 
Genesis Collection - CIB -
Ghost Recon Platinum Hits - CIB - 
Guitar Hero Aerosmith - CIB - 
Just Cause 2 - CIB -
Left 4 Dead - CIB - 
Madden 2016 - Loose
Marvel Ultimate Alliance / Forza Motorsport 2 Double Disc - CIB (slightly damaged box) - 
Mass Effect - Manual and Disc in clear box - 
Mass Effect 2 Platinum Hits - CIB - 
Mass Effect 3 - CIB - 
NBA 2K16 - Loose - 
MLB 2K18 - CIB - 
Popcap Arcade - Loose - 
Red Dead Redemption - CIB -
Red Faction Guerilla - CIB - 
Resident Evil 5 - CIB -
SSX - CIB - 
Saints Row 3 - CIB -
Orange Box (Half Life 2 Episode 2, Team Fortress 2, Portal - CIB - 
Unreal Tournament 3 - CIB -
Way of the Samurai 3 - CIB - 
Witcher 2 Enhanced - CIB with slipcase -
XBox Live Arcade (Pac Man CE, Uno, Boom Boom Rocket, Luxor 2, Feeding Frenzy) - Disc in slightly damaged box - 
XCOM: Enemy Unknown - CIB -

Xbox One Games:
NBA 2K15  - CIB -
Star Wars BattleFront - New - 

Playstation 1 Games:
Bomberman Party Edition - Loose with Manual -
Bust a Groove - Loose with Manual -
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night - Loose
Dance Dance Revolution - Loose with Manual -
Dance Dance Revolution Konamix - Loose with Manual -
Final Fantasy 7 (3 discs) - Loose
Final Fantasy 8 (4 Discs) - Loose with Manual, Additional Walkthru booklet and Brady Strategy Guide -
Final Fantasy 9 (4 Discs) - Loose with Manual, Additional Online Strategy booklet and Brady Strategy Guide -
Final Fantasy Tactics - Loose with Manual -
Grandia II Music Disc - Loose -
Metal Gear Solid (2 Discs) - Loose with Manual -
Metal Gear Solid VR Missions - Loose with Manual -
Monster Rancher - Loose with Manual -
Parasite Eve (2 Discs) - Loose with Manual x2 -
Squaresoft 1998 Collectors Disc V1 (Demo for Xenogears, Movie for Bushido Blade 2, Brave Fencer Musashi, Final Fantasy 8) - Loose x2 -
Street Fighter Alpha - Loose -
Tekken - Loose -
Umjammer Lammy - Loose with Manual -
Vandal Hearts - Loose with Manual -
Wipeout 3 - Loose with Manual -

Playstation 2 Games:
Dance Dance Revolution Max 2 - CIB -
Dragon Quest 8 - CIB with FFXII Demo Disc - 
Dynasty Warriors 3 - CIB -
ESPN Basketball - CIB -
Final Fantasy 10 - CIB -
Final Fantasy 12 Collector's Edition - CIB Steelbook - 
Frequency - CIB -
Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec - CIB and additional loose copy in box -
GTA: San Andreas - CIB -
Guitar Hero - Loose
Hitman 2 - CIB -
Hitman Blood Money - CIB -
Hitman Contracts - CIB -
Karaoke Revolution 3 - CIB -
Katamari Damacy - CIB -
Madden 2003 - CIB -
Metal Gear Solid 2 - Disc in Origina Box, no manual - 
Metal Gear Solid 3 - Snake Eater - CIB -
Network Adaptor Start-Up Disc - Loose with Manual -Persona 3 FES - CIB -
Rogue Galaxy - Loose
Street Fighter Anniversary Collection - CIB -
Virtua Fighter 4 - CIB -
We Love Katamari - CIB -
Xenosaga 1 - CIB -

Playstation 3 Games:
3D Dot Game Heroes - CIB -
Borderlands - CIB -
Dark Souls 2: Black Armor Edition - CIB in Steelbook -
Dark Souls Collector's Edition - CIB in Steelbook - 
Demon Souls - CIB -
Deus Ex - CIB -
Dishonored - CIB -
Elder Scrolls: Skyrim - CIB -
Fallout: New Vegas - CIB -
Ico and Shadow of Colossus Collection - CIB -
Katamari Forever - CIB -
LA Noire - CIB -
Madden 2011 - CIB -
Metal Gear Solid 4 - CIB -NBA 2K11 - CIB -
Mortal Kombat 2011 - CIB -
Ni no Kuni - CIB steelbook with case - 
Portal 2 - CIB -
Rockband 3 - CIB -
The Last of Us - CIB -
Uncharted 1 - CIB -
Uncharted 2 - CIB -
Valkyria Chronicles - CIB -

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

Wow... I take it by "loose with manual" you mean you put them all in binders or something?

Evan, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link

yeah, all in binders. everything is in excellent condition with a few minor exceptions.
Is this a safe/roughly accurate place for price checking? Doing a money inventory now.
https://www.pricecharting.com/

G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 9 March 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

Yeah that's the best bet for checking prices in general- it's essentially a video games discogs sort of tool.

Evan, Tuesday, 9 March 2021 17:24 (three years ago) link


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