QAnon Shaman (Jacob Chansley,the shirtless buffalo horn dude): "I developed a lot of sympathy for Donald Trump because it seemed like the media was picking on him and seemed like the establishment was going after him unnecessarily or unfairly, and I had been a victim of that all of my life, whether it be in school or at home. So in many ways I identify with a lot of the negative things that he was going through," Chansley said.
"I honestly believed and still believe that he cares about the Constitution, that he cares about the American people, and that's also why and you know it wounded me so deeply and why it disappointed me so greatly that I and others did not get a pardon," Chansley added.
Perhaps this is the core of their adulation, or at least some of them... rather than Trump as a strongman, they see him as somebody who has been pushed around and had sand kicked in his face, just like they've been pushed around, persecuted, shamed. A lot to unpack here.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 March 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
Nah, that smells like a bullshit excuse made up after he got caught and suffered some consequences, hoping for sympathy.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 March 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link
I'm inclined to agree.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 March 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link
I think it's possible he believes that, and maybe some percentage of Trump's cult; for the rest of the world, Trump as victim/bullied is kind of hard to get your mind around.
― clemenza, Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link
Not dismissing you, it's just so at odds with the alpha dog, big balled tough guy who brooks no shit image they project on Trump, that it feels really disingenuous to only now hear this take after things are falling apart and they are suffering irl consequences.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:00 (three years ago) link
(And yeah, who cares anyway, even if he does.)
― clemenza, Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link
In a way though, the very core of Trumpist appeal is victimhood: they've wronged you and people like you, and only I can make it right. Nobody's gonna push you around anymore, etc.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link
re: Trump as bullied, AIUI that kind of paradoxical thinking (our enemies are effeminate and weak; our enemies are terrifying in their strength and oppress us all) is pretty core to fascism.
― lukas, Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:07 (three years ago) link
so at odds with the alpha dog, big balled tough guy who brooks no shit image
people with poor self-awareness (most of us) are quite capable of feeling they are simultaneously super heroes and victims, without seeing any contradiction in that. learning to see yourself as if from outside and know your flaws and self-deceptions is a learned skill which must be kept in constant use if it is not to atrophy.
― Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link
It's still stunning that man who daily wears hairspray and tanning spray, and has never carried anything heavier than a five iron in the last forty years, was able to position himself as a working-class hero/salt-of-the-earth/champion of the people so effectively. I mean, Hitler was at least a war veteran.
But perhaps his string of divorces and business failures actually added to the appeal.. that was his 'struggle'.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:38 (three years ago) link
March the 4th be with you all.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:39 (three years ago) link
4/3/21 would be a better date imo. So much more to work with.
― brownie, Thursday, 4 March 2021 19:56 (three years ago) link
Welp, looks like we all have some serious crow to eat. Welcome back, President Trump, I guess! Whodathunkit!
― Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link
xpost Seriously. Ask Peter Schilling.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link
apparently we all have to give back the vaccines we got? this sucks.
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link
I've heard that ending birthright citizenship was to become the #1 priority in the 2nd term; too hot to tout during the campaign, obviously. Stephen Miller died inside when this didn't happen.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
sorry Q, your President's in another castle
― Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:33 (three years ago) link
the calendar is wrong, folks, come back later on the true date
― Bruno Ganz and Babaloo Mandel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:40 (three years ago) link
there are actually multiple Julian calendars that might be the true one, just keep that in your back pocket, i mean in mind
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:56 (three years ago) link
And don't forget - this is a Julian leap year
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link
Did u know that if you look at old calendars, March 4th happened on many different days of the week, virtually all of them, and so it follows that this March 4th could fall anywhere in this week or maybe any other week, only Q knows for sure, have faith and Q will provide
― Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link
(Ugh, until this very moment, one for the 'puns you'd missed' thread: MARCH FORTH. Subtlety, thy name is Q.)
― Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:01 (three years ago) link
there's this new theory i have i heard that trump is going to elected on where the Julian Leap Year date (Feb 29) would be on a non-Julian leap year, if that makes sense. so if this is a Julian Leap Year, which is what I read here a minute ago i heard, then we might need to wait until where the "Feb 29" would be on a non-Julian Leap Year - in other words, March 1st, 2022.
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link
One possible flaw in the logic: if Ulysses Grant was the last legitimately inaugurated POTUS (based on Sovereign Citizen doctrine), what about Trump's first term? Hmmm?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link
but it could also be March 1 of 2023 and 2024 as well, and those are all just other possible dates if it doesn't happen today
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link
that makes him the last of the Interregnum Leaders, and the one that led America back to legitimacy
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link
you might say he's actually the FIRST of the new era, similar to....
https://i.imgur.com/AtLwODj.gif
JULIUS CAESAR
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link
Okay, I'll accept that.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:08 (three years ago) link
How about the French Revolutionary calendar? Is the Great Winnowing going to happen in Pluvôse?
― Bruno Ganz and Babaloo Mandel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 4 March 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link
Nah, Ventôse. Or maybe Brumaire. The ways of Q are mysterious.
― wake me up before you cuomo (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 4 March 2021 22:24 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/rm6cDWE.png
― pomenitul, Thursday, 4 March 2021 22:59 (three years ago) link
Looks a bit like an Amway convention.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 4 March 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link
i should probably not google "patriot sunt el satana suntoo" right?
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 4 March 2021 23:57 (three years ago) link
They have a branch in Romania, so you're onto something.
xp haha I think it's 'patriot sunt eu' (I am a patriot), 'Satana sunt ∞' (Satan are… the infinity sign? OO? I don't know what it's supposed to stand for here).
― pomenitul, Friday, 5 March 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aerqIZ5aebE
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 5 March 2021 00:03 (three years ago) link
It's really confusing because I can't find anything on the QAnon meaning of infinity aside for… 8chan aka ∞chan. So if '8chan are Satan' is what they're going for, well… totally, yeah.
― pomenitul, Friday, 5 March 2021 00:13 (three years ago) link
death's head flags always a sign you're among good people
― Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Friday, 5 March 2021 17:13 (three years ago) link
I don't know if this is from the same Shaman-guy interview that was posted yesterday, but I just saw a clip of him saying that a) Shamanism is all about creating positive vibrations in a sacred space like the Senate building, and b) he actually stopped someone from stealing some muffins on Jan. 6.
― clemenza, Saturday, 6 March 2021 00:32 (three years ago) link
Wait, so he's the good guy in this whole thing?! Hmmmm...
― Andy the Grasshopper, Saturday, 6 March 2021 00:46 (three years ago) link
In the midst of a muffin crisis, evidently.
― clemenza, Saturday, 6 March 2021 00:50 (three years ago) link
Muffin Crisis <-----incroyable name for a band
― it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Saturday, 6 March 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link
There's going to be a Qruise pic.twitter.com/P9jnw8KObC— Feminist Proper Gander (@dappergander) December 11, 2020
Come on norovirus, do your job.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 6 March 2021 20:59 (three years ago) link
Sorry but it was called off a few days later (check the date).
― pomenitul, Saturday, 6 March 2021 21:00 (three years ago) link
How disappointing. They'd have never gotten the Bud Light squirts out of the carpet.
― Joe Bombin (milo z), Saturday, 6 March 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link
Just heard my first "listener stories" ep of QAA and it was both terrifying and so, so sad
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Monday, 8 March 2021 20:46 (three years ago) link
A Q cruise through the Bermuda Triangle sounds like something we need to send Patricia Lockwood on.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 8 March 2021 21:24 (three years ago) link
the Love BoeberSoon will be making another run
― wake me up before you cuomo (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 8 March 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link
A heavy but I’m sure very typical read.https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/albertsamaha/qanon-parents-millennial-children
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 March 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link
don't have the link handy but there's an entire subreddit collecting these stories now
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Saturday, 13 March 2021 16:51 (three years ago) link
Trump’s 4th of July speech at Mount Rushmore came to an end without John F. Kennedy Jr. revealing he was alive and stepping in as the president’s new running mate.
missed this one
― brimstead, Saturday, 13 March 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link