Quentin Tarantino's Manson murders movie

Will I ever get this right?

I shoulda said "138 characters - not nice," d'oh

even if Tarantino comes across as the overexcited-bordering-on-rude-nerd much of the time (cutting off the other participants and eating up a huge chunk of the time with his own anecdotes)

feel like Wright is a good partner to have on this, as he knows Tarantino well enough to chime in when necessary, and has enough of QT's respect that he's given his own time to talk. he's usually relaxed and chatty on PCP, not uptight-to-the-point-of-rude but I still expect him to talk for 3.5 of the four hours

(kudes to RC for posting, I was gonna link it once I've listened but that might take a few days)

I really enjoyed the three hour marathon on old British films, fast forwarded when a) Tarantino talks about his own movies (he talks about them wih the same fervour and IT'S SO AWESOME energy he brings to his fav films by others, it weirds me out) and when he talked about the Joker, as I fear being jokerfied and do not want to run the risk. Still, pretty fun to see these two grindhouse geeks go all Talking Pictures TV.

Edgar tweeted afterward that he once bought Quentin the complete Carry On box set, but Tarantino is scared to open it.

sic at 300 baud that’s an extra 4.5 seconds

(altho as always I applaud your stance)

QT should at least watch Carry on Screaming, which would sit p nicely on the Scorsese list (the cinematography on COS is by Alan Hume, who also shot things like Kiss of the Vampire for Hammer and Dr Terror's House of Horrors for Amicus, so visually the film is a perfect pastiche of the colour palette/values that Scorsese (rightly!) loves so much about Hammer, or Mario Bava).

I think he's scared to open it because he's afraid to die of laughter

https://consequenceofsound.net/2021/04/margot-robbie-quentin-tarantino-20-hour-cut-once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood/

i feel like morbs might come back to complain about this, this is the incantation

he would come back to complain about clickbait that debunks itself if you get baited to click?

you certainly would

if the sweet release of death can't even relieve us of the compulsion to post, what use is it

meet you back here in 60 years to discuss

Another 3.3 hours, but with more give and take: on PCP again, with QT and the two hosts talking through five picks each for great final films by directors.

the morbsbait here is Quentin saying that addressing how many filmmakers' final works - or decade - is terrible, in preparation, made him consider not making a tenth film before quitting... because Once Upon A Time In Hollywood would be such a great mic drop.

Has one of the host guys abandoned his shtick of going "I'm definitley with you on that, that's a great point" to every fucking thing QT says, even if he's directly disagreeing with him?

They're kinda like that most of the time anyway, nerds who don't want to have negativity in their show at all. But yes (I'm an hour in) you do need to apply a slight mental obsequity filter.

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Maybe the 20-hour version includes a segment on Chappaquiddick from a month earlier, with the Mod Squad saving not only Mary Jo Kopechne's life but Ted Kennedy's presidential aspirations.

lol, envisioning "Quentin Tarantino's Quantum Leap."

Wow these podcast hosts are such sycophants.

Yeah, Edgar Wright and Empire podcast host dude were better at reigning Tarantino in a bit.

One concerning thing I've taken on from these podcasts is that QT praises scenes from his own movies with the same amount of energy and awe that he gives to his fav films by others - and I do think he's illuminating on those.

I'm not sure how he can top Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, makes sense he'd seriously consider stopping now.

Another Pulp Fiction

does this mean the Star Trek movie isn't happening?

don't need to hear Bones saying the n-word thank you very much

Yeah he's not directing it

He referred to Once Upon a Time as the "climax" of his career, so I've been thinking his 10th & last will be smaller scale, maybe only half a dozen characters, limited setting(s). Can't do Kill Bill vol. 3 or his Wuxia movie or another Corbucci homage or the Vega Brothers. Only precedent in his career is Jackie Brown -- something like that, not an epic, just a kickass cool movie, maybe a little more muted. Because he's going to end before he hits 60, I also doubt his last film will be preoccupied with aging/friends and loved ones dying as so many final films do. Maybe it'll be closer to a stage play, leading him into the next phase of his career.

I still like Death Proof. Make another movie under 2 hours, Quentin!

La Jetee 2

He’s absolutely going to make an 11th movie, c’mon

cancel this fuck

we keep trying

No

He’s absolutely going to make an 11th movie, c’mon

― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Saturday, June 5, 2021 1:48 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah dude loves cinema way too much to be out of it for an extended period of time.

I could see him just pulling a Lynch and making teevee

he made that CSI two-parter — which was really good imo

He made a memorable Itchy & Scratchy too

https://frinkiac.com/video/S08E13/j4esjazdq0mqbWDiMmoK6KeZE5Q=.gif

He has a point about directors' final films, and he's been saying this since at least Django press. I don't think he's going to make an 11th movie.

I can think of plenty of directors who had great final films, or that at least sustained quality.

Such as

Since he started going on podcasts, he's said that if he'd had them when he was 20 he'd never have made his own films. He now has a wife and kid, programs several dozen movies for audiences every month, is starting an archival blu-ray label, will soon see whether there's a commercial audience for his novels and/or film criticism, has not just plans but scripts for at least one TV series, plans for expanded or miniseries cuts of two of his features, will be solidly into his sixties by the end of a theoretical tenth feature's promotional cycle, and can go on podcasts whenever he likes. Getting easier to believe he'd stay quit now.

One concerning thing I've taken on from these podcasts is that QT praises scenes from his own movies with the same amount of energy and awe that he gives to his fav films by others

Plenty of aspects of his public behaviour can be obnoxious but this one is just heartening imo. He puts out movies he's happy with! He's only wrong about one of them.

A lot of the usual suspects when it comes to auteurs. I loved Saraband, Autumn Afternoon, the Sacrifice, Rouge, Voyage to India etc. Saw a few of Satyajit Ray’s last films recently and they are all really good, same for Takahata.

Maybe there’s a bunch of american filmmakers I am not thinking of, but on the top of my head, it isn’t the case for Ford, Sirk and Wilder. Cassavetes has a good example of a bad last film.

I'm actually stunned that Tarantino didn't mention Imitation to Life, that might be the best example, maybe he's not a fan.......? (somehow???)

I actually haven't seen 7 Women or Buddy, Buddy but their partisans are few... and, to QT's point, several of their preceding films were bad. Not even "bad," but Cheyenne Autumn is clearly no Liberty Valance, and no I don't think Fedora is good. Avanti! is already long in the tooth. All of these directors, Hawks too, never thought of retiring or giving up... Ford especially, who would've done a pilot in 1970 if not for his health.

Not even "bad," but Cheyenne Autumn is clearly no Liberty Valance

Ford was almost 70 when he made Liberty Vallance and had made dozens and dozens of movies. He wouldn't have even made The Searchers if he had retired at the age Tarantino is now.

To be fair late work does tend to be a problem for the kind of genre directors I imagine are more on Tarantino's mind than, say, Satyajit Ray or Douglas Sirk - not many defenders of late period Corbucci, Argento, John Carpenter, Jack Hill. Fukusake had a late career renaissance I guess. Also these director's fortunes much more dependent on the whims of their respective industries.

How many (healthy) career directors have announced that a film will be their last, and kept to that? Kieslowski and Tarr are the only ones coming to mind.

Also these director's fortunes much more dependent on the whims of their respective industries.

― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, June 6, 2021 5:20 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

and perhaps this is a big part of Tarantino's decision today.

So we're not getting a QT Joker movie?

I think its open to him *playing* the joker tbf

Batman: I've disarmed the bomb. Now to free Robin.

Robin (in gimp outfit): Mmm. Mmp! Vtmnnn!

Batman: Hold still, Robin. Did Joker hurt you?

Joker (Samuel L. Jackson): Oh, he's ok, Batman. I just gave him a foot massage.

The great directors get great with age. Tarantino's two best movies are Jackie Brown and Hollywood, so I guess make of that what you well.

This roster will not be denied: Director's Final Films