ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: Voting And Campaigning Thread (Ballots Due Like I Dunno Maybe March 1, 2021?)

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xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 08:00 (three years ago) link

I would put in some sort of ballot if it can go until the weekend

Bignefs Proportionable (seandalai), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 13:12 (three years ago) link

yeah, I have one half-finished too, can we say Sunday?

Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link

Been working away on one for weeks, I didn't think a deadline had been set yet?

or something, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

i just need to figure out the order of these 2000s woody allen films & ill have my ballot in

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

Mid-March deadline pls

imago, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link

Oh this is definitely still open. I am going to allow people whatever time they need to get a ballot together.

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 15:32 (three years ago) link

Wait a minute! How were these nominations created?!?

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

Can someone remind this noob of the procedure with these things? Can I vote for things that aren’t on the nomination list and if so do they automatically get added to the list when I do?

― Alba, Tuesday, December 15, 2020 7:19 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah. The nominations phase is just to get people’s brains storming. Ballots can have anything on then

― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Tuesday, December 15, 2020 7:41 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 18:48 (three years ago) link

Riiiiiiight. But who the hell nominated Thanatopsis or Submit To Me Now or, er, Some Call It Loving??

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 18:52 (three years ago) link

all right i finished my ballot during lunch. contains a bunch of stuff not on the list and is formatted horribly, hope that's ok eric

morbs would hate everything about my list except for the prominent placement of a spielberg film and i think that's the right way to go into this. rip king

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 19:14 (three years ago) link

Glad this is back on.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link

he would also give me shit for not including any movies released before 1979 but i gotta do me

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 19:16 (three years ago) link

Eric if you do close this week and roll out next, we could get voting and rollout for the 2020 poll done before the Oscars.

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

Oh no, I’m not closing this thing until we have at least 30 to 40 ballots

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 22:00 (three years ago) link

Thanks, appreciate not closing this week or whatever. I need time.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 22:03 (three years ago) link

ha no chance i have the time put together a ballot for this. maybe i'll just submit my flickchart list that i made when i was 20.

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 22:07 (three years ago) link

Will vote for sure, just got too damn much going on.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link

Oh no, I’m not closing this thing until we have at least 30 to 40 ballots

I don't want to start another poll while one's still running, but we've only ever reached 30 ballots once in the yearly polls, so it might take a few years' accretion to hit 40 in this one!

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 22:16 (three years ago) link

All polls cancelled till we do this one in five years.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 22:35 (three years ago) link

idk i think all-time has more of an audience than the yearly polls, it is hard for me to keep up with movie releases over a year but i certainly know the movies i love most

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 22:46 (three years ago) link

The horror movie poll got like 60 ballots. Half that shouldn’t be too tough

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link

Is the idea that these are the most important films? My favorite films? The most "Sight and Sound poll" films?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 23:12 (three years ago) link

The horror movie poll got like 60 ballots. Half that shouldn’t be too tough

60 ballots in three weeks, vs three months so far here. Deadines focus the mind.

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 23:22 (three years ago) link

The idea is however you take the phrase “all-time movies”

avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 March 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link

Time Bandits, Modern Times, Good Time, Ashes of Time, Bad Timing, Short Time...

;)

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 March 2021 00:17 (three years ago) link

...purple rain...

wasdnuos (abanana), Thursday, 4 March 2021 02:52 (three years ago) link

will def be sending a ballot. have a loose draft of about 150, that i will narrow down as late as possible

devvvine, Thursday, 4 March 2021 13:25 (three years ago) link

I started putting a ballot together a while back and let it get away from me. Bummed that, since the nominations closed, I've already seen one non-nominated film that should absolutely be on my ballot but I also wonder if there's any point in including it given the lack of nomination. I might need to pow-wow with my youth pastor on this one.

Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 March 2021 13:39 (three years ago) link

just did a haphazard sweep of the noms and got a half-decent top 25 put together, so i guess i'm gonna vote

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Thursday, 4 March 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link

Can I do a write-in? if so, then I can come up with a 25

Oor Neechy, Thursday, 4 March 2021 16:52 (three years ago) link

if you read the above posts they will reveal that write-ins are extremely allowed and nigh-encouraged

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 March 2021 16:55 (three years ago) link

I've sent in a ballot. If Eric could let me know he received it, that would be great!

Oor Neechy, Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:11 (three years ago) link

probably futile and ridiculous to do any campaigning for such a massive and personal endeavor but i would like to encourage folks to see/revisit Peter Weir's Fearless (1993). not at the top of my list or anything but it'll be on there somewhere. a movie close to my heart and one i never hear anyone talk about ever.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 4 March 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

It's very good, iirc. It's been a while.

Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

I did a Facebook countdown of favourite movies with two friends a decade ago, and--I checked back--one of them had Fearless at #12.

clemenza, Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:03 (three years ago) link

very cool, glad to hear i'm not the only one! one of the things i like about it is that it feels like an incredibly rare example of extreme vulnerable emotion in the context of relatively slick Hollywood production values. Jeff Bridges and Rosie Perez are both excellent, among each of their best.

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 4 March 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link

Is Zardoz on the list? Asking for a friend possibly putting together a very basic ballot.

Noel Emits, Thursday, 4 March 2021 23:06 (three years ago) link

Also Aronofsky's Pi, I'm hearing.

Noel Emits, Thursday, 4 March 2021 23:15 (three years ago) link

some good stuff is missing :(

billstevejim, Thursday, 4 March 2021 23:38 (three years ago) link

As a few posts have pointed out, unless you're heavily invested in the results, and you're worried about voting for something not on the big list, you can vote for whatever you want.

clemenza, Thursday, 4 March 2021 23:48 (three years ago) link

afaik the list is mostly a compendium of films put forward on other threads, it's more just a reminder than a definitive nominations list

Dan S, Thursday, 4 March 2021 23:58 (three years ago) link

why read the posts when you can ask questions about the posts and then not read the replies

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Friday, 5 March 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link

i am sort of sorry

billstevejim, Friday, 5 March 2021 01:05 (three years ago) link

Fearless is pretty good -- my first adult notice of Jeff Bridges as actor -- but Bridges' mullet is a hindrance.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 5 March 2021 01:09 (three years ago) link

Are we allowed to vote in this if Morbs would have sneered at our lack of filmic knowledge?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 5 March 2021 01:11 (three years ago) link

The trouble with snarking at people for not succesfully scouring every single post (when they might be text fatigued from looking through a long list of things) in search of rules that might be better placed in say the OP is that this post now might look it's criticising the poll runner(s), which it is not.

Noel Emits, Friday, 5 March 2021 01:14 (three years ago) link

Lotta mullet-adjacent dadhair in Weir's American films - Depardieu in Green Card, sunbleached Ford in Mosquito Coast. He even tried to fake one on Ed Harris with that beret.

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Friday, 5 March 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link

Stuff in my personal favorites that's not mentioned here yet:

Some kind of monster
Predator
Reanimator
Falling down
Freaked

billstevejim, Friday, 5 March 2021 01:17 (three years ago) link

There should be a mullet movie poll

billstevejim, Friday, 5 March 2021 01:18 (three years ago) link

If I've said this twice then how many times have people said something along the lines of "it's not a nomination list, it's a suggestion list" in the thread? Got to be twenty or so.

Pretty close. This appeared before the "nominations" list did in the first thirty posts:

Can someone remind this noob of the procedure with these things? Can I vote for things that aren’t on the nomination list and if so do they automatically get added to the list when I do?

― Alba, Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:19 AM (seven months ago)

Yeah. The nominations phase is just to get people’s brains storming. Ballots can have anything on then

― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:41 AM (seven months ago)

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This followed:

Wait a minute! How were these nominations created?!?

― Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:39 AM (four months ago)

Can someone remind this noob of the procedure with these things? Can I vote for things that aren’t on the nomination list and if so do they automatically get added to the list when I do?

― Alba, Tuesday, December 15, 2020 7:19 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah. The nominations phase is just to get people’s brains storming. Ballots can have anything on then

― On average, this critic grades 8.3 points lower than other critics (Eric H.), Tuesday, December 15, 2020 7:41 PM (two months ago) bookmarkflaglink

― johnny crunch, Thursday, March 4, 2021 5:48 AM (four months ago)

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I started putting a ballot together a while back and let it get away from me. Bummed that, since the nominations closed, I've already seen one non-nominated film that should absolutely be on my ballot but I also wonder if there's any point in including it given the lack of nomination. I might need to pow-wow with my youth pastor on this one.

― Stefan Twerkelle (Old Lunch), Friday, March 5, 2021 12:39 AM (four months ago)

Can I do a write-in? if so, then I can come up with a 25

― Oor Neechy, Friday, March 5, 2021 3:52 AM (four months ago)

if you read the above posts they will reveal that write-ins are extremely allowed and nigh-encouraged

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, March 5, 2021 3:55 AM (four months ago)

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Is Zardoz on the list? Asking for a friend possibly putting together a very basic ballot.

― Noel Emits, Friday, March 5, 2021 10:06 AM (four months ago)

Also Aronofsky's Pi, I'm hearing.

― Noel Emits, Friday, March 5, 2021 10:15 AM (four months ago)

some good stuff is missing :(

― billstevejim, Friday, March 5, 2021 10:38 AM (four months ago)

As a few posts have pointed out, unless you're heavily invested in the results, and you're worried about voting for something not on the big list, you can vote for whatever you want.

― clemenza, Friday, March 5, 2021 10:48 AM (four months ago)

afaik the list is mostly a compendium of films put forward on other threads, it's more just a reminder than a definitive nominations list

― Dan S, Friday, March 5, 2021 10:58 AM (four months ago)

why read the posts when you can ask questions about the posts and then not read the replies

― grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Friday, March 5, 2021 11:52 AM (four months ago)

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Just a note that I can't seem to open the pastebin link at all now, it says

Error, this is a private paste or is pending moderation. If this paste belongs to you, please login to Pastebin to view it.

― Bastard Lakes (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, March 5, 2021 8:08 PM (four months ago)

ballot sent

― oscar bravo, Saturday, March 6, 2021 4:01 AM (four months ago)

Sorry all. Been off the grid the last few days. I’ll update the list of who I’ve got ballots from this weekend and also update the overall list from pastebin, and RE paste the updated version here tho, yes, vote for whatever your heart wants.

― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Saturday, March 6, 2021 4:24 AM (four months ago)

just submitted

― little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Saturday, March 6, 2021 4:44 AM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

I tell myself I'm going to submit a ballot tonight after I sign off my work computer. Do whatever you think is right with this information.

― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Saturday, March 6, 2021 4:45 AM (four months ago)

Also, there is no crazy rush people. I am not likely to close balloting period for weeks at the rate my day to day life is going lately.

― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Saturday, March 6, 2021 7:03 AM (four months ago)

NOMINATIONS: https://pastebin.com/LwvpYQ1A (Roughly 1,750 candidates listed; no, I don't know why pastebin flagged the list as NSFW.)

doesn't seem to work now? I've only ever seen about 38 movies and possibly want to celebrate about 11 of them, so no biggie except I feel noms list should perhaps be easier to access?

― anatol_merklich, Saturday, March 6, 2021 10:24 AM (four months ago)

someone should post about that link not working

― armoured van, Holden (sic), Saturday, March 6, 2021 10:42 AM (four months ago)

the entirety of the nominations list:

Big Money Hustlas (Cafiero 2000)
Bowling Balls (Andresen 2004, short)
Death Racers (Knyrim 2008)
Big Money Rustlas (Andresen 2010)

― armoured van, Holden (sic), Saturday, March 6, 2021 10:45 AM (four months ago)

my ballot was just money plane over and over again

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, March 6, 2021 11:08 AM (four months ago)

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Do I need to look at the pastebin link, which is doing the private thing and blocking me?

― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, March 7, 2021 3:19 PM (four months ago)

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Duplicates in the list:

Cops Keaton, Buster/Edward F. Cline 1922
Cops! (Buster Keaton & Edward F. Cline, 1922)

Firemen's Ball, The Forman, Milos 1967
Firemen's Ball, The (Forman, 1967)

GoodFellas Scorsese, Martin 1990
GoodFellas (Martin Scorsese, 1990)

Grandmother, The (Lynch, 1970)
Grandmother, The (Lynch, David) 1970

Harlan County, U.S.A. Kopple, Barbara 1976
Harland County U.S.A. (Barbara Kopple, 1976)

His Girl Friday Hawks, Howard 1940
His Girl Friday (Howard Hawks, 1940)

Kind Hearts and Coronets Hamer, Robert 1949
Kind Hearts and Coronets (Robert Hamer, 1949)

King of Comedy, The Scorsese, Martin 1983
King of Comedy, The (Martin Scorsese, 1982)

Lady Eve, The Sturges, Preston 1941
Lady Eve, The (Preston Sturges, 1941)

Lady from Shanghai, The Welles, Orson 1948
Lady from Shanghai, The (Orson Welles, 1947)

Laura Preminger, Otto 1944
Laura (Otto Preminger, 1944)

Leopard, The Visconti, Luchino 1963
Leopard, The (Luchino Visconti, 1963)

Letter from an Unknown Woman Ophüls, Max 1948
Letter from an Unknown Woman (Max Ophüls, 1948)

Lost In America Brooks, Albert 1985
Lost in America (Albert Brooks, 1985)

Love Me Tonight Mamoulian, Rouben 1932
Love Me Tonight (Rouben Mamoulian, 1932)

Maltese Falcon, The Huston, John 1941
Maltese Falcon, The (John Huston, 1941)

Man Escaped, A Bresson, Robert 1956
Man Escaped, A (Robert Bresson, 1956)

Meet Me in St. Louis Minnelli, Vincente 1944
Meet Me in St. Louis (Vincente Minnelli, 1944)

Melvin and Howard Demme, Jonathan 1980
Melvin and Howard (Jonathan Demme, 1980)

Mikey And Nicky May, Elaine 1976
Mikey and Nicky (Elaine May, 1976)

Miracle of Morgan's Creek, The Sturges, Preston 1944
Miracle of Morgan's Creek, The (Preston Sturges, 1943)

Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975)
Mirror, The Tarkovsky, Andrei 1975

Modern Times Chaplin, Charles 1936
Modern Times (Charlie Chaplin, 1936)

Mulholland Dr. Lynch, David 2001
Mulholland Dr. (David Lynch, 2001)

North by Northwest Hitchcock, Alfred 1959
North by Northwest (Alfred Hitchcock, 1959)

Othello Welles, Orson 1952
Othello (Orson Welles, 1951)

Out of the Past Tourneur, Jacques 1947
Out of the Past (Jacques Tourneur, 1947)

Paths of Glory Kubrick, Stanley 1957
Paths of Glory (Stanley Kubrick, 1957)

Peeping Tom Powell, Michael 1960
Peeping Tom (Michael Powell, 1960)

Psycho Hitchcock, Alfred 1960
Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)

Rabbit of Seville Jones, Chuck 1950
Rabbit of Seville (Chuck Jones, 1950)

Red River Hawks, Howard 1948
Red River (Howard Hawks, 1948)

Robot Monster Tucker, Phil 1953
Robot Monster (Tucker, Phil) 1953

Stop Making Sense Demme, Jonathan 1984
Stop Making Sense (Jonathan Demme, 1984)

Strike Eisenstein, Sergei 1925
Strike (Sergei Eisenstein, 1925)

Tabu Murnau, F.W. 1931
Tabu (F.W. Murnau, 1931)

Ugetsu (Kenji Mizoguchi, 1953)
Ugetsu monogatari Mizoguchi, Kenji 1953

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, March 15, 2021 9:35 AM (four months ago)

Almost all of the doubles mentioned upthread were Morbs ballot additions that I added at the last minute (minus Robot Monster), and most of them have been dealt with.

― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Saturday, March 20, 2021 5:05 AM (four months ago)


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Is it too late to submit something?

― Dan Worsley, Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:57 AM (three months ago)

Not at all. This poll remains an open-ended prospect indefinitely, but it's feeling increasingly likely that I won't actually close it until the end of spring or thereabouts.

― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Thursday, April 1, 2021 3:59 AM (three months ago)

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also, RE: "no, I don't know why pastebin flagged the list as NSFW", is it because of Warhol's Blow Job?

― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Saturday, May 15, 2021 7:55 AM (two months ago)

I had a pastebin list of songs flagged as NSFW and it turned out it was due to the presence of "You're a Queer One" from the Carousel soundtrack.

― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, May 15, 2021 8:03 AM (two months ago)

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a couple of things i would have voted for weren't nominated, but that's my fault!

house (Nobuhiko Ôbayashi, 1977)
downfall (Oliver Hirschbiegel, 2004)

― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Saturday, May 15, 2021 9:15 AM (two months ago)

House is there as Hausu, it'll be in my unranked 100

― ignore the blue line (or something), Saturday, May 15, 2021 9:19 AM (two months ago)

oh shit! thank you! I will send an update to Eric and hope that it can count. I saw it for the first time recently and was blown away

― parenthetically yours, (Karl Malone), Saturday, May 15, 2021 9:23 AM (two months ago)

you can also vote for stuff that wasn't nominated

― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, May 15, 2021 9:24 AM (two months ago)

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To Catch a Thief not nominated?

― Deicide at Chuck E. Cheese (PBKR), Saturday, May 15, 2021 11:03 PM (two months ago)

You can vote for it, nominations were just suggestions.

― Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, May 15, 2021 11:10 PM (two months ago)

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OK, I'm working on this today. It took me an hour just to delete the ones I hadn't seen. I got to Showgirls and said a silent apology to Eric as I hit the Delete key.

― In my house are many Manchins (WmC), Sunday, May 16, 2021 2:25 AM (two months ago)

I tried not to look at that list at all if I could help it.

In any case, I am usually much more motivated to vote in a poll with this kind of turnout.

― Working in the POLL Mine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, May 16, 2021 3:31 AM (two months ago)

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Almost... have my +100. Would be nice to have a list of just all the nominated directors to work with.

― Blue Yoda No. 9 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, May 25, 2021 1:12 PM (one month ago)

don't know if it helps, but here's the 101 top directors poll from a few years ago:

All Right, Mr. DeMille, I'm Ready For My Close-Up ... It's The ILXOR's Top 101 Director Poll Results Thread

― Dan S, Tuesday, May 25, 2021 1:40 PM (one month ago)

Would be nice to have a list of just all the nominated directors to work with.

at this point any vote for a "nominated" film should be stricken from the results

― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, May 25, 2021 1:47 PM (one month ago)

Ha, I get it. Almost done anyway, but thanks.

― Blue Yoda No. 9 (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, May 25, 2021 2:05 PM (one month ago)

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The nomination list is Forbidden (#403) for some reason. Is Eric's post from January the final noms list? Can't vote for anything not on it?

― g simmel, Thursday, May 27, 2021 6:52 PM (one month ago)

you can vote for whatever you'd like, nominations were intended as a jumping off point or to simply help you along

― Clay, Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:11 PM (one month ago)

I've not really looked at the moms list. I have a rough idea of favourites

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:18 PM (one month ago)

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Will finally start entering in the last-minute ballots into the spreadsheet this week, which means I might be nice and leave room for a few more.

― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Monday, June 7, 2021 7:37 AM

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when I think about the work involved in compiling these ballots, with no nomination list, I would not be surprised if it took quite a while

― A viking of frowns, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, July 14, 2021 8:03 AM (six days ago)

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 08:30 (two years ago) link

Don’t know how I would have finished my ballot in time without that nomination list.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 09:24 (two years ago) link

:-D

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 09:27 (two years ago) link

It would have been easier to throw a ballot together (in 40 minutes when Eric announced votes were closing) if we'd had a nomination list, for sure. Perhaps this should be considered for the 2021 version of the All-Time Film poll?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 10:28 (two years ago) link

It’s certainly worth considering.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 11:25 (two years ago) link

looking forward to a new thread

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 11:58 (two years ago) link

The process continues.

i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 12:58 (two years ago) link

Can someone please repost the link to the new thread, I couldn’t find it.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link

Aw, you shouldn’t oughta have done it.

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 20 July 2021 13:45 (two years ago) link


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