Silicon Valley Techno-Utopianism

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How do you spend $46 a day on fast food??

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:36 PM (yesterday)

not all fast food is cheap! those delivery charges add up. ... seriously, there are people in my neighborhood who get delivery at least once a day.

sarahell, Monday, 1 March 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link

this recipeasly thing went well lol

― mookieproof, Monday, March 1, 2021

blame canada!

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 1 March 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

Ngl, people throwing money around like this while nearly everyone I knew lived with roommates into their late 30s is among the reasons why I left the Bay Area and won't ever live there again.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 12:16 (three years ago) link

mom-as-a-service
omg

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 1 March 2021 15:17 (yesterday) link

Srsly this has been bouncing around in my head since. Caek, is that your coinage?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

Invest in MOAS stocks

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

*MAAS

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:33 (three years ago) link

no offense to caek, but that idea has been around for years: https://bostonreview.net/gender-sexuality/sarah-sharma-going-work-mommys-basement

About three years ago a funny quip began circulating on social media that the gig economy was now mostly composed of Mommy apps. Business Insider suggested that twenty-something techbros were wasting their talents designing technologies and programs for things they wished their Mommies still did for them: driving, cooking, cleaning, laundering. Newsweek even ran a similar story under the headlines read “Silicon Valley Needs Moms.” The term “post-mom economy” emerged to capture this particular moment in tech(bro) culture when Uber (“Mommy, drive me”), TaskRabbit (“Mommy, clean my room”), GrubHub (“Mommy, I’m hungry”), and LiveBetter (“Mommy, I’m bored”) emerged.

rob, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:36 (three years ago) link

this is why the cult of Elon Musk bothers me so much, virtually all of the man's "innovations" consists of stuff that would only really be useful to a rich Silicon Valley person. the early crop of Teslas has obvious design flaws because apparently nobody ever considered that someone who lived in a less sunny place than California would ever buy one! he's like all those hack comedians who have been on the road for 15 years and now their entire act consists of complaining about airports and hotels

frogbs, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:42 (three years ago) link


How do you spend $46 a day on fast food??

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, February 28, 2021 8:36 PM (yesterday)

why does a private chef cost less than this?

treeship., Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:48 (three years ago) link

xp, aha. That makes sense. I used to call those "I'm to lazy to do" startups. I thought it was a sign of how spent the current tech boom had become. The mom terms work better.

Lately it feels like the hype has shifted away from apps to emergent tech - robotics, AI, EVs, batteries, biotech, etc. I guess that's at least better than having everyone try to find a way to sell beer at an unreasonable markup through an app.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 14:53 (three years ago) link

There was an article from a few years ago that I'm sure was shared and discussed here where it was put in a good way that basically said the same thing, something about how 20 something start-up founders only knew how to create apps that solve the kinds of problems 20 something start-up founders have.

dan selzer, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:02 (three years ago) link

My new idea is an app that will remind users to wash their ass every 24 hours

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:12 (three years ago) link

the internet of shit will never be the same

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:14 (three years ago) link

Sorry DJP, still too much user effort required. Would need to be an app that sends an underemployed gig worker over to aim a hose at the user's ass.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link

where would they plug in the hose?

sarahell, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link

"Have you guys tried SpitShine yet? TOTAL GAME CHANGER"

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

here was an article from a few years ago that I'm sure was shared and discussed here where it was put in a good way that basically said the same thing, something about how 20 something start-up founders only knew how to create apps that solve the kinds of problems 20 something start-up founders have.

― dan selzer, Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:02 AM (fifty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

My new idea is an app that will remind users to wash their ass every 24 hours

― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:12 AM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this reminds me of those companies that make purportedly antimicrobial shirts that won't stink if you wear them for two days. Like literally the only people who would care are coders glued to their desks and complete lazy slobs who still somehow care what they smell like.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:53 (three years ago) link

you know who makes my antimicrobial shirts, is a collaboration between Samsung and Tide

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:55 (three years ago) link

It is for the best that I never moved to Silicon Valley because I would either be even more insufferable or in jail after freaking the fuck out and punching everyone in sight

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:56 (three years ago) link

complete lazy slobs who still somehow care what they smell like

my people

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:58 (three years ago) link

you know who makes my antimicrobial shirts, is a collaboration between Samsung and Tide

― Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 10:55 AM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Samsung x Tide

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 16:47 (three years ago) link

TidePods x Soylent

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

My GF forced me to listen to Conan O'Brien's podcast the other day, which was especially heavy on advertising. One 'service' he promoted was having a new car just delivered to your house. "No more boring trips to the dealer!" etc. etc.

I don't know who this is targeted to, but it's clearly not me.

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 17:25 (three years ago) link

certainly not the first to note the existence of that class of startups, and i did not come up with the name "MAAS", but it's a good one.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link

I thought a lot of the breathable shirts were marketed to people hiking/camping, but I think between my different online ad demographics I'm getting half outdoorsy types and half desk-bound coders and some brands are cross-marketing

mh, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 02:32 (three years ago) link

it's aspirational -- the desk-bound coders are supposed to want to go hiking/camping and need a bona fide reason to buy these shirts, but instead, they don't and just, y'know, buy them to make up for not showering

sarahell, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link

well, I wear mostly merino wool shirts AND shower daily. so there!

mh, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 15:46 (three years ago) link

#notalldeskboundcoders

sarahell, Wednesday, 3 March 2021 16:04 (three years ago) link

baffler's not all bad... this is savage and i love it
https://thebaffler.com/salvos/how-to-become-an-intellectual-in-silicon-valley-timms

davey, Thursday, 11 March 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link

Join DocuSign executives, along with industry visionaries from Progressive and Arm, to discover how they are transforming their agreement process. You’ll also hear from singer/songwriters and inspiring speakers like Michael Franti and Mick Ebeling of Not Impossible Labs.

sarahell, Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link

seriously, what happened to Michael Franti

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:37 (three years ago) link

I mean, Docusign is a pretty solid program as far as electronic signatures go but .... seriously ... ya, right?

sarahell, Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link

"industry visionaries" = vomit all over myself

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 March 2021 17:48 (three years ago) link

davey's link is indeed a pleasant read and highlights how much these dumb assholes are just 1970s/80s neoliberal chamber-of-commerce mouthpieces but with a fresh coat of rock-star paint plus ted talks and twitter.

this honking's on a bobo (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 March 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

There was a vinyl banner in SOMA San Francisco with some tech knob wearing a headset mic, and the pithy, airy quote: "We should only think of a technology as radical if it benefits every person on the planet."

And I thought "Bowls? Bowls is all I got. Maybe sandals?"

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:08 (three years ago) link

the wheel

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Thursday, 11 March 2021 19:17 (three years ago) link

the toilet

sarahell, Friday, 12 March 2021 02:46 (three years ago) link

the smallpox vaccine

davey, Friday, 12 March 2021 03:07 (three years ago) link

For real though instead of NFTs can't we just docusign stuff?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 12 March 2021 03:24 (three years ago) link

the toilet


Not everyone!

Bruno Ganz and Babaloo Mandel (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 12 March 2021 03:43 (three years ago) link

xp - seriously, why isn't Grimes headlining the Docusign conference?

sarahell, Friday, 12 March 2021 05:46 (three years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/mmdI3ioIOf

— Nitasha Tiku (@nitashatiku) March 12, 2021

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 12 March 2021 07:12 (three years ago) link

I'm howling

Hello Nice FBI Lady (DJP), Friday, 12 March 2021 15:50 (three years ago) link

is this intentional or unintentional comedy?

sarahell, Friday, 12 March 2021 16:05 (three years ago) link

The North Sentinelese in the Andaman Islands don't have wheels or smallpox vaccines. They may have toilets and/or bowls, nobody knows.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 March 2021 16:14 (three years ago) link

The part about watching Jackson do design work live on twitch is the clincher.

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 12 March 2021 16:18 (three years ago) link

why does she speak like TTS software?

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 12 March 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This is extremely good and fascinating. Still not done with it:

https://www.thedigradio.com/podcast/counterculture-to-cyberculture-with-fred-turner/

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 29 March 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

Anyone gonna watch this? I don't know.. the founder guy looks kinda like the Night Stalker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVAESeO7dgc

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 8 April 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Mind Capitalism: Braindreessen Horowitz pic.twitter.com/2OxuHn8r0s

— Ed Zitron (@edzitron) May 4, 2021

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 4 May 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link


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