“It’s a little too quiet” - US Politics February 2021

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I've tried to figure out the biggest difference between milo's position and those here he argues against most vehemently. afaics, we all agree on the following:

  • a $15/hr. minimum wage should be among the highest policy goals for the Biden administration
  • even this would barely begin to make up the amount of ground necessary to address the problem of workers living in abject poverty
  • the prospects of passing a $15/hr. minimum wage in the next few months seem quite dim
  • passing a much lower minimum wage than $15/hr, as a compromise would be even more drastically inadequate
  • even that much may be stymied
  • the root of this political impasse is that all 50 Democratic senators must commit to doing whatever it takes to get a $15/hr wage passed, even if it means ending the filibuster, but there is no unanimity among the 50 senators to do this
Thus far, I think we all see exactly the same facts. Where milo and some of us part company is evaluating the actions and motives of President Biden and the elected Democrats in Congress. milo insists that if a $15/hr minimum wage is not accomplished at once we must see this as prima facie evidence that the party leadership is corrupt, callous, incompetent, and mendacious and obviously have been lying to us all along, but we are just too blind or complacent to see it.

He will not stop until we all agree in full with this assessment of the party in full and consign them all to hell. This alone will satisfy him. Any deviation from this view, or hint or suggestion of a different assessment he will combat with all his might. Once he has achieved this, the next step will be, um, organizing the masses to withhold their votes from democratic candidiates. He's still working on what steps would follow that.

Judge Roi Behan (Aimless), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:25 (three years ago) link

I have yet to demand anyone do anything but go off bro.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:31 (three years ago) link

milo demands that you go off bro

sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

Once again, I would encourage all of you to pick up the phone Monday morning to yell at your Senators to "pass the fucking bill already and oh by the way $15 minimum wage asshole", rather than making the same arguments on here forever.

my two senators and Sen. Sanders introduced a $15 minimum wage bill, indexed to median wage growth thereafter, in April 2017

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

wait

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

my two senators and Sen. Sanders introduced a $15 minimum wage bill, indexed to median wage growth thereafter, in April 2017, but go off bro

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

I'm not going to touch Aimless's final paragraph, but I agree with the rest.

jaymc, Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

let me introduce you to "my two senators" *rolls up sleeves and flexes*

sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

my two senators and Sen. Sanders introduced a $15 minimum wage bill, _indexed to median wage growth_ thereafter, in April 2017, but go off bro


Great! Yell at them for DC statehood then!

Mosholu Porkway (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

Calling Ted Cruz is even more pointless than posting.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

im not sure if the politics of its passage will improve but one thing about 15$ that’s unlike the rest of covid relief is you can pass the exact same bill with same timeline of phase-ins later and it will have exactly the same effect

flopson, Sunday, 28 February 2021 19:50 (three years ago) link

if you have two things, each without a point, can one lack a point more than the other?

sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link

sit beside the breakfast table
post about your troubles

sell her Dior (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link

"I have yet to demand anyone do anything but go off bro."

Lol I never demanded my roommate clean the house, I just poked my head into to his room every 10 minutes to go on a rant about how dirty the house is and how stupid it is that he hasn't cleaned it

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:09 (three years ago) link

My two Trumpsters would definitely get a giggle out of anyone demanding a minimum wage increase of any kind. (And they will pay no political price at all for opposing it.) But I agree that calling offices is good.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:10 (three years ago) link

Lol I never demanded my roommate clean the house, I just poked my head into to his room every 10 minutes to go on a rant about how dirty the house is and how stupid it is that he hasn't cleaned it

If your roommate started talking about how dirt is simply the way of the world, unavoidable and the system makes it impossible for a real deep cleaning to happen you might disagree, no?

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

Stay focused, Milo. My post was referring to you saying you made no demands on ppl, not about other ppl's posts about Democrats. You do this often: grasp onto an aspect of someone's post to make an unrelated jab at Dems or how you think ILX views Dems for the bazillionth time.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:22 (three years ago) link

Unlike Some People in this thread who think that puppy-kicking is perfectly acceptable (if not downright enjoyable), I would like to strongly reiterate my unwavering anti-puppy-kicking stance.

Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

oh so OL is all for kicking kittens??! I'm procat myself but go off bro

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Sunday, 28 February 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

. My post was referring to you saying you made no demands on ppl, not about other ppl's posts about Democrats.

"Other ppl's posts about Democrats" are what I'm responding to, though. I have never asked anyone to do anything - when you start talking about how the campaign promise was never actually real, I'm going to take issue with that though, or with the idea that it is impossible for the most powerful people in the world to act because of outside forces hemming them in.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Sunday, 28 February 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link

Likewise I've never asked the roommate to clean the house

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 February 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link

I've never asked you to change your hairstyle to suit me, darlin. I've just commented nonstop on how ugly I find it.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Sunday, 28 February 2021 21:54 (three years ago) link

_Lol I never demanded my roommate clean the house, I just poked my head into to his room every 10 minutes to go on a rant about how dirty the house is and how stupid it is that he hasn't cleaned it_


If your roommate started talking about how dirt is simply the way of the world, unavoidable and the system makes it impossible for a real deep cleaning to happen you might disagree, no?


That’s my philosophy about cleaning my a condo.

Bruno Ganz and Babaloo Mandel (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 28 February 2021 22:50 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/TLbOOdk.jpg

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:05 (three years ago) link

Faek noos

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link

she's standing in front of the eye in balls

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

so have I at some point in my life

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:48 (three years ago) link

New entire website description

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 February 2021 23:52 (three years ago) link

CPAC straw poll results just a ranking of how much you owned the libs by killing senior citizens.

Joe Biden Stan Account (milo z), Monday, 1 March 2021 05:38 (three years ago) link

where does the white couch fit into all this

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Monday, 1 March 2021 05:39 (three years ago) link

Well, this is unexpected:

President Biden gave Amazon warehouse staff in Alabama fighting to join a union their biggest support yet, tweeting a video Sunday night saying workers should be able to make their decision in the election without pressure from the company.

More than 5,800 workers at an Amazon warehouse in Bessemer, Ala., are in the middle of a seven-week voting period to determine whether they want the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union to represent them. Although Biden didn’t name Amazon in the video, he made it clear that he supports the union drive.

“Today and over the next few days and weeks, workers in Alabama, and all across America, are voting on whether to organize a union in their workplace,” Biden said.

Nominal, of course, but not the course of action I'd have expected from this corporatist.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 March 2021 10:51 (three years ago) link

I'm reminded again of teh quote about how its better to pick the administration that you would rather fight rather than the one that would be ideal. Since its inevitably going to be somewhat different to your idea of how things should be done and opinions will differ between you as member of the public/radical and member of the administration/gatekeeper. Also that there will be protocols and red tape that one would have to negotiate to get things done and not added to where possible. ( actually now seeing how that gets confused into somebody from outside DC seeing all legislation as being discardable arbitrarily and contrasts with some red tape actually protecting elements of society that need protecting, but probably need better worded legislation.)

Stevolende, Monday, 1 March 2021 11:17 (three years ago) link

Close thread, mods?

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 March 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link

I'll lock it after there's a March thread I can link to.

Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Monday, 1 March 2021 14:59 (three years ago) link


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