No Dolly Parton thread? Well then -- classic or hyperclassic?

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is the dolly parton vs loretta lynn good vs evil thing codified? dolly as the blonde wronged wife vs loretta as the raven world-weary other woman? e.g. "jolene" vs "coal miner's daughter" albums. east vs west coast w country songstresses?

fakeducks, Saturday, 11 July 2009 01:42 (fourteen years ago) link

no

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 11 July 2009 01:45 (fourteen years ago) link

well i'd like to officially codify it then.

that done, "here i am" is a stone cold classic. i can't stomach pop dolly.

fakeducks, Saturday, 11 July 2009 03:01 (fourteen years ago) link

you are mistaking Dolly & Loretta for Betty & Veronica, which is sooooo wrong.

A Fox TV Executive With Nothing To Lose (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 11 July 2009 05:06 (fourteen years ago) link

that is a much better analogy than the rappers.

fakeducks, Saturday, 11 July 2009 14:15 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

holy cow

go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 23:09 (fourteen years ago) link

er nevermind

go Nick go! Scrub that paint! Scrub it!! Yeah!! (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 18 August 2009 23:10 (fourteen years ago) link

i went to dollywood last month. i saw the actual Coat Of Many Colors. i almost cried tears of joy.

Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 19 August 2009 00:41 (fourteen years ago) link

five months pass...

Backwoods Barbie, despite the kinda awful title, is really great. The FYC cover works better than the big pop covers on the bluegrass trilogy (e.g. "Shine", "Stairway").

Euler, Thursday, 28 January 2010 10:28 (fourteen years ago) link

It almost made my top ten that year.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:13 (fourteen years ago) link

And deservedly! I don't remember hearing of the songs on country radio in 2008, which is a pity. The songs would have sounded totally normal there.

I'm listening to the new box set now. Even her greatest hits albums were in disarray before this, in that there are so many of them that you might get stuck with rerecordings if you're careful (for instance, of "I Will Always Love You").

Euler, Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Well, the country old guard doesn't get played much except new old guard member George Strait.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:43 (fourteen years ago) link

You're right, but in Dolly's case I'd think there's room for an exception; never mind her extraordinary musical talent, she's a household name without compare in country.

Euler, Thursday, 28 January 2010 14:45 (fourteen years ago) link

been loving "love is like a butterfly" lately. ignored it for being to sweet for a long time, but there's some little turns in the melody that are fantastic and keep me glued.

andrew m., Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link

"The Bargain Store" is my new favorite.

Blue Fucks Like Ben Nelson (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:12 (fourteen years ago) link

love that one too!

andrew m., Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:16 (fourteen years ago) link

The really early sides on the box set are eye-opening; her voice was quite different on the first two songs, much higher. And the sound of the songs in the first half of that first disk is more like "Dumb Blonde" and the song "Don't Drop Out" (that you might know from the One Kiss Leads To Another Rhino box set from a few years back). That's to say, more girl group than honky tonk. Her range as an artist is broad (no pun intended), more like Ray Charles or Aretha Franklin than Merle Haggard or George Jones.

Euler, Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:33 (fourteen years ago) link

"the bargain store" is great. uses an a-minor/g-major progression similar to "jolene," she likes those minor chords.

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 28 January 2010 15:56 (fourteen years ago) link

my parents saw dolly at merlefest the year she put out that bluegrass album and LOVED her - they weren't expecting much one way or the other but they said she sang her heart out and had great stage presence, made light of herself and her "assets" continually until no one could hold them against her, and just basically won over a crowd of bluegrass purists who were probably ready to hate her guts at the slightest misstep...

i didn't really realize "here you come again" was her - i always liked that tune, maybe i should dig up some of her other stuff

messiahwannabe, Thursday, 28 January 2010 16:51 (fourteen years ago) link

Your digging will be amply rewarded.

There's a feeling I get when I look to the west---or at least, when I hear this song from 1975, on disk 3 of the box:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtaGkXvXHfA

Euler, Thursday, 28 January 2010 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

six months pass...

pure gold. now i know what to wear to a hog roastin' or maybe a rooster fight in the country.

jed_, Friday, 27 August 2010 21:36 (thirteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

I love her new album!

Pete Scholtes, Thursday, 21 July 2011 13:41 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

OK so I am finally getting around to listening to The Grass is Blue, which I copied off my Mom on my last visit. This is my first time listening to Dolly other than on the radio.

First song fucking SLAYS, then side 1 sags for awhile until 'Steady As the Rain' and 'I Still Miss Someone' (a song which I'll listen to anyone's version of, frankly). Then 'Silver Dagger' fully kills it and holy crap the lyrics and affect of 'The Grass Is Blue'. This album has more than its share of awesome.

QUOTE sampling at a higher rate UNQUOTE (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 20:07 (eleven years ago) link

Grass is Blue and Little Sparrow are both great, I think I prefer the latter more except it has that Collective Soul song on it which, even though she acquits herself admirably with her take, is just such a shitty song.

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

The Grass is Blue is awesome in stretches.

taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 September 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link

two months pass...

"Heartbreaker" is generic L.A. crap but wow her performance.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 1 December 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link

i saw her in brisbane last year, she was completely wonderful.

estela, Saturday, 1 December 2012 01:24 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv90nFTTqqc

tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:38 (ten years ago) link

nice find! unusual to see her "dressed down" as it were. That 80s album with the three of them is okay.

she's a national treasure obviously

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 September 2013 20:41 (ten years ago) link

yeah, i love this.
my mom had the Trio tape in the car constantly when I was a kid, there is some nice stuff on there.

tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:42 (ten years ago) link

I need to buy Trio, right?

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link

if you like these ladies singing together, yes!

tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:47 (ten years ago) link

surprised you don't have it tbh

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 September 2013 20:52 (ten years ago) link

haven't looked it up, but i bet you could get it for under a buck on CD over on amazon.

tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:53 (ten years ago) link

Trio is super. There's a sequel, too, and the duo album Emmy did with Linda, Western Wall, is OK, too, though more of a mode with the former's late stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

this clip is from way earlier than the Trio album obviously. I didn't know they had tried to do it initially in the 70s, probably would have been even better back then.

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 6 September 2013 20:55 (ten years ago) link

I've been on a Ronstadt kick and I tend to forget that record.

Actually, Shakes, the first Trio album has songs they cut in the seventies, held back by record company wrangling.

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2013 20:56 (ten years ago) link

btw i found that clip via http://officialdollyparton.tumblr.com which has some pretty good dolly content.

tylerw, Friday, 6 September 2013 20:59 (ten years ago) link

like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc8qdjhJ6f0

szarkasm (schlump), Friday, 6 September 2013 21:58 (ten years ago) link

beautiful video btw, thanks tyler
truncating fade-in applause at the end somehow the exact opposite of appreciation

szarkasm (schlump), Friday, 6 September 2013 22:01 (ten years ago) link

Okay as long as this has been revived:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/20e1a4102aa27e25c1cd76649e780bde/tumblr_msl2snhLKF1qar3r2o1_500.jpg

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 September 2013 22:06 (ten years ago) link

layin' on the schmaltz but jesus christ how is it her voice is *still* this good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTmi6v0Sy2s&feature=youtu.be

what's up ugly girls? (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 19 September 2013 20:30 (ten years ago) link

Don't know if it's actually true, but I've been told she wrote 'Jolene' and 'Coat..' on the same day. Imagine that.

'Why do you come in here looking like that' rules forever, by the way.

Beyond classic, of course. Amazing lady.

Mule, Thursday, 19 September 2013 21:43 (ten years ago) link

aw man I'm such a cornball, that made me kinda teary. What a set of pipes she has.

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 September 2013 01:54 (ten years ago) link

and Rogers don't sound bad either

first I think it's time I kick a little verse! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 September 2013 01:55 (ten years ago) link

yeah I was pleasantly surprised by old Kenny, I expected him to sound more ragged than he does

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 20 September 2013 01:58 (ten years ago) link

i saw her two years ago in brisbane and she was in astounding voice and also ridiculously gorgeous, her entire band and the audience were wreathed in cartoon hearts.

estela, Friday, 20 September 2013 02:02 (ten years ago) link

Heard the slowed down "Jolene" on the radio today.

Spencer Chow, Friday, 20 September 2013 05:42 (ten years ago) link


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