the nu-metal canon

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SOAD and Slipknot have chops

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Friday, 26 February 2021 22:57 (three years ago) link

wait i need examples of terrible musicianship in nu metal

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

yes that is true. Slipknot had more death metally beginnings (from what I've been told, I never did hear Mate Feed Kill Repeat).

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 February 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

xpost bands like Skrape are who I'm thinking of

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 February 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

the knockoff bands inspired a lot of people who had been playing guitar for ten minutes to form a band.

never forget the local nu-metal concert I went to where one of the bands (Grumpy) was lip synching, and the vocalist wasn't even within ten feet of the microphone. the headliner (Deroot) had their sole guitar player get angry at his guitar and throw it across the stage, and the sound of guitar continued, meaning hew as faintly playing over a loud backing track.

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 February 2021 22:59 (three years ago) link

lmao ok i have literally never heard of skrape

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2021 23:00 (three years ago) link

one of the bands (Grumpy)

omfg

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link

they literally looked like Slayer but played like shit

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 February 2021 23:04 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2P8bMN1E70

was listening to the korn s/t tonight and wanted to post this track bc it's the core, the heart music of the genre

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link

absolutely mindbending instrumental bridge on that song

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2021 23:52 (three years ago) link

t/s :

linkin park vs dubstep/edm (recharged)
korn vs dubstep (path of totality)

mark e, Saturday, 27 February 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

recharged is substantially less good than path of totality. that is pretty easily my least favorite era of linkin park though

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 February 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

i suspected that would be the case.
POT really is next level.
however, i do like LP and both of their remix albums have some amazing tracks.

mark e, Saturday, 27 February 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link

reanimation is def one of the best remix albums of all time

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 February 2021 20:57 (three years ago) link

absolutely.
many years back i used to be very anti-LP cos i was an arse, but somehow i ended up winning their catalogue from the playlouder crew (up to their 'live in texas cd/dvd release).
it was reanimation that made me flip and become a fanboy.

mark e, Saturday, 27 February 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

btw i have relistened to s.c.i.e.n.c.e. and have decided to admit it into the canon

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 27 February 2021 21:10 (three years ago) link

kind of still want to do a rock remix albums / nifty rock remixes thread

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Saturday, 27 February 2021 21:45 (three years ago) link

so you wanna be a Rock superstar, and live large

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Saturday, 27 February 2021 21:46 (three years ago) link

i guess i should post this in a korn thread but here is my final ranking of korn records

Issues
Korn
The Path of Totality
Untouchables
Life is Peachy
Untitled
The Serenity of Suffering
Follow the Leader
The Nothing
See You On the Other Side
The Paradigm Shift
Take a Look in the Mirror
Korn III: Remember Who You Are

surprised to say that i at the very least like all of them

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 February 2021 16:53 (three years ago) link

I kinda began to miss the clenched teeth vocal style that Jonathan employed on the first album and started to cede more and more to the nasal singing voice.

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 February 2021 16:58 (three years ago) link

makes sense. i got into them through follow the leader so actually had to adjust to the vocal style on the first two lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 February 2021 17:01 (three years ago) link

I learned of them shortly after the s/t came out, as the kid that sat next to me in Spanish class handed me his walkman and said LISTEN TO THIS MAAAAAAAN.

with that kid sitting next to me, it's no wonder my A dropped to a B that year. so distracting.

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Sunday, 28 February 2021 17:02 (three years ago) link

damn that's like the ultimate way to get into korn

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Sunday, 28 February 2021 17:11 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XgHepSgU0w

ok i gotta reiterate what a fuckin revelation the untitled korn album is

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 1 March 2021 20:50 (three years ago) link

updated canon:

korn: s/t
orgy: "stitches"
kittie: spit
deftones: around the fur
linkin park: hybrid theory
korn: "freak on a leash"/"got the life"
limp bizkit: three dollar bill, yall$
system of a down: s/t
sepultura: roots
rob zombie: hellbilly deluxe
mindless self indulgence: frankenstein girls will seem strangely sexy
orgy: vapor transmission
korn: life is peachy
limp bizkit: "nookie"/"break stuff"
nothingface: violence
fear factory: digimortal
sevendust: "black"/"denial"
slipknot: s/t
static-x: wisconsin death trip
incubus: s.c.i.e.n.c.e
disturbed: "stupify"
adema: "giving in"/"the way you like it"
p.o.d.: satellite
limp bizkit: chocolate starfish and the hot dog flavored water
deadsy: "the key to gramercy park"
queen of the damned soundtrack
evanescence: fallen

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link

s.c.i.e.n.c.e. is one of those records I am perfectly happy to keep in its historical placement in my memory palace, undisturbed by revisiting

stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:08 (three years ago) link

idk i had completely forgotten about the song "nebula," a real jam

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:16 (three years ago) link

do Crazy Town fit here? "Butterfly" is definitely nu-metal adjacent at least

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link

oh fuck i meant to listen to the crazy town record before updating the canon

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link

i thought "butterfly" was the worst song of all time for like a full decade, i'm overdue for a heel turn in this direction

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:24 (three years ago) link

this almost redeems it a tiny bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMPr9XXGymA

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 15:30 (three years ago) link

Oh god I hated 'Butterfly' so much at the time but 'Revolving Door' was even worse.

Gavin, Leeds, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 17:22 (three years ago) link

"Butterfly" came during a glut of "rappers whose raps sound like high school poems for their crush", who weren't part of the hip-hop scene, but were either fronting nu-metal bands, creating pop records, or creating nonsense nobody wanted to hear but got played 24/7 anyway

Red Nerussi (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

this almost redeems it a tiny bit

― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 9:30 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

tripping. the original is way better

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

idk i had completely forgotten about the song "nebula," a real jam

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:16 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

also... maybe the only evidence of overlap between incubus and soad

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 18:42 (three years ago) link

that nothingface album is fucking astonishing and should be talked about more. a true descendant of angel dust

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link

(maybe more in spirit than in sound)

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:20 (three years ago) link

.... ugh.... this crazy town record is kinda dope.... way weirder than i expected too

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:52 (three years ago) link

also, in things i didn't expect to read in the wikipedia entry for the second crazy town record: "The second and final single, "Hurt You So Bad", features Rivers Cuomo from Weezer on the track's guitar solo.[9]"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 20:53 (three years ago) link

i thought "butterfly" was the worst song of all time for like a full decade, i'm overdue for a heel turn in this direction

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:24 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol yeah i'm cured, shit sounds awesome

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:04 (three years ago) link

"butterfly" is the only nu-metal song to hit #1 on the billboard hot 100

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:06 (three years ago) link

i wouldnt consider butterfly nu-metal

himpathy with the devil (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:09 (three years ago) link

Is there a reason “significant other” isn’t in the canon in the list?

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

just feel like i can summarize its impact with "nookie" and "break stuff" only but there's no special reason no lol

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

ugh i do not relish thinking a song called "lollipop porn" is a total jam

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

also i thought this record was gonna be way more misogynistic than it is, oh wait here comes "revolving door"

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:21 (three years ago) link

actually this is fine for the most part. fuck. goddammit. why do i like the crazy town record so much

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:23 (three years ago) link

ok i give up, pls retitle this thread the quarantine regression canon

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 March 2021 21:25 (three years ago) link


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