the nu-metal canon

maaaan Party Music was mah jam.

i feel like it was absolutely inevitable that this would become a 9/11 thread

so, powerman 5000 vs rob zombie.
powerman 5000 even did a reversion of robs big track i.e. "more human" vs "how to be human"
any other examples of such nepotism in the world of industrial/nu-metal ?

Mark Chavez of Adema is Jonathan Davis's half-brother.

probably the only reason they got any attention

that's some deep knowledge unperson.
respect.

the only thing I found more execrable than nu-metal by the time I left high school was post-grunge btw.

it was everywhereeeeeeeeeeeeeee

linkin park being called a nu-metal boyband upthread rankled a little because you know who was absolutely stylized as a nu-metal boyband? adema

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYTwIZslZXo

i will say if you completely ignore the lyrics that song i just posted is a jam, love the high guitar harmonics

what's funny is how comparably terrible the musicianship was with nu-metal. obviously you had Limp Bizkit, which had jazz musicians playing the music, and Korn, but some of the clones could barely play their instruments. sure, you could make the claim of like, Nirvana, but Kurt made his amateurish guitar playing interesting, using voicings and riff-stylings that most trained musicians couldn't dream up.

whereas metalcore, which I also don't like (almost as much as nu-metal), almost every band has pretty tight musicianship, some filled with virtuoso musicians

SOAD and Slipknot have chops

wait i need examples of terrible musicianship in nu metal

yes that is true. Slipknot had more death metally beginnings (from what I've been told, I never did hear Mate Feed Kill Repeat).

xpost bands like Skrape are who I'm thinking of

the knockoff bands inspired a lot of people who had been playing guitar for ten minutes to form a band.

never forget the local nu-metal concert I went to where one of the bands (Grumpy) was lip synching, and the vocalist wasn't even within ten feet of the microphone. the headliner (Deroot) had their sole guitar player get angry at his guitar and throw it across the stage, and the sound of guitar continued, meaning hew as faintly playing over a loud backing track.

lmao ok i have literally never heard of skrape

one of the bands (Grumpy)

omfg

they literally looked like Slayer but played like shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2P8bMN1E70

was listening to the korn s/t tonight and wanted to post this track bc it's the core, the heart music of the genre

absolutely mindbending instrumental bridge on that song

t/s :

linkin park vs dubstep/edm (recharged)
korn vs dubstep (path of totality)

recharged is substantially less good than path of totality. that is pretty easily my least favorite era of linkin park though

i suspected that would be the case.
POT really is next level.
however, i do like LP and both of their remix albums have some amazing tracks.

reanimation is def one of the best remix albums of all time

absolutely.
many years back i used to be very anti-LP cos i was an arse, but somehow i ended up winning their catalogue from the playlouder crew (up to their 'live in texas cd/dvd release).
it was reanimation that made me flip and become a fanboy.

btw i have relistened to s.c.i.e.n.c.e. and have decided to admit it into the canon

kind of still want to do a rock remix albums / nifty rock remixes thread

so you wanna be a Rock superstar, and live large

i guess i should post this in a korn thread but here is my final ranking of korn records

Issues
Korn
The Path of Totality
Untouchables
Life is Peachy
Untitled
The Serenity of Suffering
Follow the Leader
The Nothing
See You On the Other Side
The Paradigm Shift
Take a Look in the Mirror
Korn III: Remember Who You Are

surprised to say that i at the very least like all of them

I kinda began to miss the clenched teeth vocal style that Jonathan employed on the first album and started to cede more and more to the nasal singing voice.

makes sense. i got into them through follow the leader so actually had to adjust to the vocal style on the first two lol

I learned of them shortly after the s/t came out, as the kid that sat next to me in Spanish class handed me his walkman and said LISTEN TO THIS MAAAAAAAN.

with that kid sitting next to me, it's no wonder my A dropped to a B that year. so distracting.

damn that's like the ultimate way to get into korn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XgHepSgU0w

ok i gotta reiterate what a fuckin revelation the untitled korn album is

updated canon:

korn: s/t
orgy: "stitches"
kittie: spit
deftones: around the fur
linkin park: hybrid theory
korn: "freak on a leash"/"got the life"
limp bizkit: three dollar bill, yall$
system of a down: s/t
sepultura: roots
rob zombie: hellbilly deluxe
mindless self indulgence: frankenstein girls will seem strangely sexy
orgy: vapor transmission
korn: life is peachy
limp bizkit: "nookie"/"break stuff"
nothingface: violence
fear factory: digimortal
sevendust: "black"/"denial"
slipknot: s/t
static-x: wisconsin death trip
incubus: s.c.i.e.n.c.e
disturbed: "stupify"
adema: "giving in"/"the way you like it"
p.o.d.: satellite
limp bizkit: chocolate starfish and the hot dog flavored water
deadsy: "the key to gramercy park"
queen of the damned soundtrack
evanescence: fallen

s.c.i.e.n.c.e. is one of those records I am perfectly happy to keep in its historical placement in my memory palace, undisturbed by revisiting

idk i had completely forgotten about the song "nebula," a real jam

do Crazy Town fit here? "Butterfly" is definitely nu-metal adjacent at least

oh fuck i meant to listen to the crazy town record before updating the canon

i thought "butterfly" was the worst song of all time for like a full decade, i'm overdue for a heel turn in this direction

this almost redeems it a tiny bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMPr9XXGymA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc34Er7aeYc

Oh god I hated 'Butterfly' so much at the time but 'Revolving Door' was even worse.

"Butterfly" came during a glut of "rappers whose raps sound like high school poems for their crush", who weren't part of the hip-hop scene, but were either fronting nu-metal bands, creating pop records, or creating nonsense nobody wanted to hear but got played 24/7 anyway

this almost redeems it a tiny bit

― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 9:30 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

tripping. the original is way better

idk i had completely forgotten about the song "nebula," a real jam

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:16 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

also... maybe the only evidence of overlap between incubus and soad

that nothingface album is fucking astonishing and should be talked about more. a true descendant of angel dust

(maybe more in spirit than in sound)

.... ugh.... this crazy town record is kinda dope.... way weirder than i expected too

also, in things i didn't expect to read in the wikipedia entry for the second crazy town record: "The second and final single, "Hurt You So Bad", features Rivers Cuomo from Weezer on the track's guitar solo.[9]"