Some are. They just released Curse of Frankenstein which I think got a crummy snapcase DVD release 20 years ago in the US but was otherwise only ever available in multipacks. The new blu-ray is a two-disc set with the film in three different aspect ratios and a whole lot of new features.
― Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 13:44 (three years ago) link
Looking over my recent purchases (Curse, Shop Around the Corner, Meet Me in St. Louis, Best Years of our Lives), only Best Years is fairly stingy with the extras.
― Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 13:54 (three years ago) link
Second Run's Goodbye Dragon Inn might be my favorite release of the last year. Or at least my favorite movie that finally got a decent set.
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 13:59 (three years ago) link
Didn't realise Nicky Wire Bananaman actually ran 88 Films, but did watch one of his documentaries on a release - might have been Massacre In Dinosaur Valley? - so it makes sense.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:00 (three years ago) link
I have never understood what "nicky wire in a banana suit" means and had no idea he was a poster...is there some reasonable reason his company has that name?
― rob, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:03 (three years ago) link
Big Hitler fan and cinephile
― jammy mcnullity (wins), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:06 (three years ago) link
One of those more believable than the other.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:09 (three years ago) link
ugh hitler stans are so annoying
― rob, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:11 (three years ago) link
Just did a nostalgic search through thread titles started by his most frequent identity and that was a wild ride. I didn't realise there were just so many of them.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:16 (three years ago) link
In actually relevant news I went to order that Czech film from Second Run but I can't check out the shopping cart. Oh well.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link
yeah sorry for derail (also embarrassingly realized I've figured this out before)
still, I would probably avoid releasing nazisploitation movies with that company name
― rob, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 14:34 (three years ago) link
I wasn't having a go except at myself because I thought I was derailing.
― Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 15:17 (three years ago) link
there are lots of WB Archives Blu-Rays with extras. Off the top of my head, a couple Michael Curtiz movies (Dodge City + Adventures of Robin Hood) have newsreels, cartoons, short films (by Curtiz!), trailers, and multiple radio broadcasts of the film in question. Usually some contemporary interviews with scholars/critics, too.
Dunno about entire extra films though, I've only ever encountered that with Criterion. They should really emphasize that more imo, I mean the Stranger Than Paradise disc for example: it has Permanent Vacation! That's hardly an extra. Stranger Than Paradise is an extra on that disc!
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link
Gaslight at least has both the 1940 and 1944 versions of the film. I could swear I have at least one other with a bonus film.
― Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:11 (three years ago) link
But yeah, Criterion (and others who do likewise) should make a bigger deal about that. I bought The Front Page from Kino not realizing that it was included on Criterion's release of His Girl Friday.
― Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link
Most (if not all) of the Warner Archive Blu extras are ported over from the original DVDs.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:13 (three years ago) link
The first Gaslight with Anton Walbrook is grebt.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:16 (three years ago) link
Wow, I had no idea about Gaslight. Yeah, I had the same reaction with His Girl Friday, tbh I didn't even know it had the extra movie when I bought it. I went to watch HGF again like 2 years ago and was like "what's this extra disc...? ...oh..... wtf?!!"
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link
It Happened One Night has a feature length Capra silent (haven't watched yet), and the Stagecoach release has one of the best Ford silents I've seen, Bucking Broadway.
Killer's Kiss included with The Killing...The Report included with Certified Copy...yeah...
― Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:24 (three years ago) link
I'd imagine with Criterion that it has to do with them gatekeeping what gets the official "prestige" of being included in the Collection, which kinda makes since for stuff like De Palma's Murder A La Mod (bonus for Blow Out) or the 30s version of Magnificent Obsession on the Sirk disc, but is pretty baffling choice when it comes to Permanent Vacation.
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:26 (three years ago) link
Killer's Kiss included with The Killing...The Report included with Certified Copy...yeah...― Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:24 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, February 24, 2021 1:24 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
YO
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:29 (three years ago) link
I'VE HAD THE REPORT THIS WHOLE TIME.....?
xxp Yeah that does make sense, it just feels like they should advertise them more, I mean I had NO idea Certified Copy came with The Report-- and I've had that disc for years!
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:31 (three years ago) link
But, then again, I don't read stickers!
My birthday present to you!
― Motoroller Scampotron (WmC), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link
I love you
― flappy bird, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:36 (three years ago) link
The studio killed the original UK Gaslight in various ways such as renaming it so as not to compete with the US remake, iirc..
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:41 (three years ago) link
Okay, MGM destroyed the negative at the time, and one or both versions were variously known as Angel Street and The Murder in Thornton Square.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:51 (three years ago) link
Bonus films are indeed an awesome feature, though tbh I'm not sure I'll ever get around to the earlier version of Holiday
― rob, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link
I haven't looked at the Warner Archive site in years, but I remember being wary because the DVDs (and maybe the blu-rays?) were sometimes DVD-Rs/MOD. The fact that a even some factory-pressed Warner titles from about fifteen years ago became unplayable over time helped sour me on buying Warner releases. But I also just rarely watch physical discs any more, unfortunately.
xxp Another bonus feature IIRC is The Traveler on Criterion's Close-Up.
― eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:57 (three years ago) link
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/21/arts/gaslight-movie-afterlife.htmlJ. Hoberman's overview.
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 18:58 (three years ago) link
xpost Warner Archive DVDs are, unfortunately, usually DVD-Rs and thusly not generally something I'm inclined to pay money for (except that I'm probably going to fold on the Forbidden Hollywood sets eventually). Their blu-rays, however, are legit manufactured discs and well worth checking out. They have so much good stuff.
― Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 19:01 (three years ago) link
I'm slapping myself just now because when I started this thread I knew I was forgetting to mention a major player and sure enough: Shout/Scream Factory is probably the most dominant boutique label in my collection. And sure enough: they're having a sale (on box sets).
https://www.shoutfactory.com/page/list/id/282131?utm_source=rejoiner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=BOXSET+SALE+FEB+2021+-+FIRST+DAY&utm_content=BOXSET+SALE+FEB+2021
You see, this is how I blew through whatever stimulus money I received last year. Soooo many sales. It's a really easy way to go broke.
― Please Hammer Stop Hurting 'Em (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 19:04 (three years ago) link
Olive Films puts out a lot of good stuff. Can't seem to find a proper home page.
https://olivefilms.com/
(doesn't show up on a Google search).
― gjoon1, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link
If you’re not buying the Maude box set from that Shout sale, seriously what are you doing in life?!
― avatar of a kind of respectability homosexual culture (Eric H.), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:18 (three years ago) link
Lol
― The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 23:21 (three years ago) link
I was looking at the Barney Miller box.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 25 February 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link
Seeing that Homicide box, and remembering how ridiculously expensive the original season sets were back upon release in the early '00s: $80-$100 apiece (because of the music rights, iirc).
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 February 2021 04:03 (three years ago) link
Wow, that is amazingly cheap, even at retail. Did they cut the music or something?
― Nhex, Thursday, 25 February 2021 05:21 (three years ago) link
Looks like direct ports of the old discs.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 February 2021 05:51 (three years ago) link
When A&E did their complete series box, IIRC it was like $150-$200.
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 25 February 2021 05:54 (three years ago) link
thatTomorrow I'll Wake Up And Scald Myself With Tea film mentioned upthread fort mentioned in the guardian today in an article about a new (?) streaming service
https://easterneuropeanmovies.com/
which might be a bit off topic (being streaming) but looks interesting
― koogs, Saturday, 27 February 2021 12:43 (three years ago) link
(fuck autocorrect, you get the idea)
That does look great. I grumble about the big streaming services quite a bit but truth be told I could probably spend the rest of my life just watching old movies on stuff like this, the Cinephobe and assorted youtube accounts, without even getting into the Criterion channel.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 27 February 2021 14:49 (three years ago) link
the russian films are a separate (but related) website
and it has an interesting payment plan - $5 for a day, $15 for a week, $30 for a month, $100 for lifetime
you could probably get the cost per film down to $1 given a week and enough spare time (although probably avoid Satantango in that case!)
― koogs, Saturday, 27 February 2021 15:19 (three years ago) link
that's assuming this service lasts 2 years!
― Nhex, Saturday, 27 February 2021 17:30 (three years ago) link
That's a great selection, quite a few I've loved and a good bunch I want to see, maybe someday.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 27 February 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link
Inspired by this thread I tracked down a complete list of Warner Archive releases, and wow! Need the third season of Young Sheldon on blu with no extras? They got you covered!
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 28 February 2021 13:36 (three years ago) link
Come on, that's on par with dismissing Criterion because they released Armageddon. Every physical media company produces shitty loss leaders. Warner Archive is one of the few things I won't actively give WB shit for these days.
― Chokeslamming A Memory (Old Lunch), Sunday, 28 February 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link
Yeah, Arrow doing a lot of North America only releases these days.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 23 December 2023 17:45 (four months ago) link
They’re essentially handling Universal’s legacy home releases on this front from what I can tell.
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 December 2023 21:23 (four months ago) link
lol no
Happy to be wrong. Dr W kind of likes to give the impression.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Saturday, 23 December 2023 23:26 (four months ago) link
yeh I bet he does!
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Sunday, 24 December 2023 00:10 (four months ago) link
https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collections/frontpage/products/little-darlings
Complete with the original theatrical soundtrack!
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 5 January 2024 04:25 (three months ago) link
I got the huge VS Lost Films set for Christmas and have loads of opinions but the overriding one is this is not for normal people. (By which I mean even trying to explain some of what's in it is only possible by invoking other non-mainstream film makers so essentially only in its own language.)
With 2 to watch I genuinely think Rare Blue Apes might be my favourite though.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Friday, 5 January 2024 11:28 (three months ago) link
yeh that set is for people really deep down the rabbit hole!in "I didn't know they were still going" news, Something Weird is closing down later this year.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 5 January 2024 11:57 (three months ago) link
It's also for people who aren't scared to say they didn't like things. I actually fell asleep during my first go at the hobo doc and didn't rate it much on the second go, and from limited reviews I'm not the only one (with one person saying they had a third go with the commentary which was worthwhile).
I'll have a go at trying to explain the films later.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Friday, 5 January 2024 12:15 (three months ago) link
in "I didn't know they were still going" news, Something Weird is closing down later this year.
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Friday, 5 January 2024 11:57 (one hour ago) link
It's sad! I'm glad I picked up some of their physical releases over the past couple of years, as they've been slowly phasing those out. It seems like they might have some sort of deal with Kino, though (as the latter has been releasing a bunch of SW's old exploitation titles under the Forbidden Fruit banner), so hopefully their font of Weirdness will remain available in some form or another.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Friday, 5 January 2024 13:43 (three months ago) link
I think all these Deaf Crocodile films are region a onlyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zca9nCm8McY
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 27 January 2024 20:46 (two months ago) link
https://www.indiewire.com/features/craft/blu-ray-labels-film-history-physical-media-1234950671/
Seems hard to argue against the notion that Vinegar Syndrome has moved right up alongside Kino in terms of the breadth and quality of their output
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 16:08 (two months ago) link
Would happily agree. Thanks to their partner labels alone I'm usually picking up four or five new releases a month.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 16:41 (two months ago) link
I tell myself I have reined in my home video buying frequency (and am shoring up for the spring Criterion flash sale since I've got at least three codes and am pretty close to the $50 credit), but a glance at my shelf of recent acquisitions tells a different tale.
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:16 (two months ago) link
VS's Showgirls was probably the fastest I've preordered a disc, um, I guess ever?
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:17 (two months ago) link
Hahah right there with ya. Can't wait for the Phase IV one.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:18 (two months ago) link
I know its rights etc. but VS discs are sometimes region free and sometimes Region 1 only.. and it follows no logic or reason across films.
I got around this by buying a multiregion DVD/Bluray player, so now there is no stopping me.
will likely spring for Phase IV for the new cut, but in the UK, shipping is not great unless I go for a few titles at once, and I am still going through my last order.
also now I'm multiregion, teach me about criterion flash sales and where to look for buying a bunch of their stuff to send to UK. ( I dont think they have a UK sale and no criterion channel here either)
― my opinionation (Hamildan), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 17:47 (two months ago) link
Ohhhh, did not know about Phase IV. That is rad.
I would give so much more of my $$$ to these boutiques if they would take a page from Kino's book and occasionally have more for-real deep discount sales. The frankly unnerving volume of Kino titles in my collection is a testament to this.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:17 (two months ago) link
Tsk, Old Lunch, I revived the thread the other day! :-D
Phase IV
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:25 (two months ago) link
That Indiewire article is great for sure but I would add to it the interesting and kinda more grassroots efforts focusing on silent films in particular, especially now that nearly all of the silent era is in the public domain. (I'm sure the silent movie thread on here has noticed this!) There are boutique labels there as well like Undercrank but also near individual efforts or very limited releases via a lot of Kickstarter efforts, and while some are more dedicated to basic preservation, a lot of them are remarkably good with higher end treatment, notes and supplements, etc. Redwood Films out of France has been really solid about all kinds of horror/horror adjacent titles in particular:
https://www.instagram.com/redwoodcreekfilms/
While Dave Glass's silent-era comedian collections have been awfully good too:
https://www.kickstarter.com/profile/reelcomedy/created
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 18:44 (two months ago) link
The frankly unnerving volume of Kino titles in my collection is a testament to this.
Now that the Kino imprimatur doesn't automatically mean "dodgy if not outright shitty video transfer" (at least on silent film landmarks), the biggest roadblock I have with them is the seeming total lack of curation. I get people being more completist with a Criterion or an Arrow or a Vinegar Syndrome. But I look at some people's Kino libraries and think, "You can't possibly want/need every single one of those titles ... can you?"
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 19:57 (two months ago) link
Well, when they do those sales with discs running from $5-10 apiece, and you need to drop $50 on an individual order so you don't get screwed on shipping...an they can't always be all winners.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 20:42 (two months ago) link
Yeah, their offerings are all over the place but I've had pretty good luck by doing some research before diving into the sales. I've gotten a ton of great stuff from them that I probably would've never even known about or had a chance to see if they hadn't put out a dirt-cheap Blu-ray of the thing. It probably helps if you have an affinity for both fine cinema and total garbage.
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:38 (two months ago) link
The Big Bus, Moving Violations, and Blind Fury are definitely all winners!
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 21:47 (two months ago) link
I mean, I consider The Apple a winner so
― Great-Tasting Burger Perceptions (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:14 (two months ago) link
I enjoy kino's chaotic neutral approach
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:30 (two months ago) link
― Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:31 (two months ago) link
kinda surprised they haven't released Midnight Madness on Kino yet
― the absence of bikes (f. hazel), Tuesday, 6 February 2024 22:49 (two months ago) link
― badpee pooper (Eric H.), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 00:54 (two months ago) link
Heads up for people buying the Phase IV 4k/blu- the guy at Vinegar Syndrome who reassembled the original cut(s) says that the Saul Bass shorts that VS didn't carry over from the 101 Films UK release are being cleaned up and should be released within the year by another, as yet unnamed label
― You guys are caterpillar (Telephone thing), Wednesday, 7 February 2024 21:25 (two months ago) link
Kino Lorber March Madness Sale: https://kinolorber.com/collection/march-madness-sale-2024
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 March 2024 03:18 (three weeks ago) link
Deep Discount is doing a BOGO sale on titles from the defunct Olive Films label through Friday. Lots of vintage Hollywood genre films and oddball stuff. Not sure how many of these will get picked up by other boutiques, so this might be one of your last shots at scoring these on disc.
https://www.deepdiscount.com/deep-olive-films-bogo-sale/b233819
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 20:05 (two days ago) link