infinite monkey cage and in our time are both radio shows that happen to be distributed as podcasts
so is This American Life, the only concrete example of this alleged universal voice that anyone has actually managed to identify
― stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, 22 February 2021 00:32 (three years ago) link
would 100% listen to an (episode or three of) investigative / journalistic Serial-type podcast with the narration being screamed by a stoned Jon Gabrus though
― stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, 22 February 2021 00:33 (three years ago) link
Educational/journalism/post-NPR
i used to say the 4th was 'knowledge straight into my veins' but every example i could think of was crossed with at least one of the other genres so i figured it could go. but yes
'murder' is mystery obv, but so is pretty much all audio fiction and according to my theory if it doesn't have a mystery at it's heart it doesn't really exist as a podcast. audio art or something but not a podcast
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2021 00:35 (three years ago) link
Lol at popeye stamp
Tracer, i know the convo has shifted (note btw fans that as i am an adaptable beast and not every thread follows the same rules i tapped no sign) but i was in my op literally referring to a *voice* so when drawing those out what i refer to is more the actual delivery of those speaking and not so much structure/format- if the distinction makes any sense
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 00:38 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfgBgpFJYto
― buzza, Monday, 22 February 2021 00:39 (three years ago) link
Oh fuck no
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link
TBF, I'm not really referencing podcasts per se itt but rather radio shows (which may or may not have attendant podcasts) that I've overheard on NPR whose announcers shocking thieve cadences like they're in an Ira Glass cover band. But alas I do not pay enough attention to overheard NPR to say what specific shows these are. My ears have perked up in passing enough times though to confirm that this is A Thing.
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 February 2021 00:45 (three years ago) link
sic my pet theory is that the american tradition of speech radio since the early 70s played to such a more niche audience who were listening to it in the ideal listening space of their cars, such that long-form speech radio already kind of sounded like podcasts before podcasts existed, is how i break it down to an extent. i.e. jean shepherd as the first podcaster. in the UK you were fighting through the kitchen noise and had the continuous tradition of a varied schedule and a mandate to reach every member of the public and still today most british presenters sound pretty 'broadcasty'
dmac i agree with you - those voices work, they do not display those tics - however i do balk at calling melvyn bragg or robin ince 'natural' or 'naturalistic' in the way that say elis james & john robins are. i interviewed ince and cox once and the degree to which they're pros astonished me. once my recorder was on and i'd asked a question it was like a switch had flipped - they were 'on' - doing their thing - everything heightened, on another plane than the one we'd just been quietly chatting on - even though it was supposed to be an interview, not a performance!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2021 00:50 (three years ago) link
Mar dhea but dont we all do that
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 00:58 (three years ago) link
I thought the murder shows were just meant to provide macabre, voyeuristic thrills by delving into past monstrosities perpetrated by humans, as a way to deal with one's own fears and vulnerability. But I don't really listen to them.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 22 February 2021 00:59 (three years ago) link
lol yeah i guess that too
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2021 01:01 (three years ago) link
i’ll concede it’s possible that my absurdly reductive formula might have a coupla holes in it
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2021 01:03 (three years ago) link
TBF, I'm not really referencing podcasts per se itt but rather radio shows
my pet theory is that the american tradition of speech radio since the early 70s played to such a more niche audience who were listening to it in the ideal listening space of their cars, such that long-form speech radio already kind of sounded like podcasts before podcasts existed, is how i break it down to an extent. i.e. jean shepherd as the first podcaster.
so we've nailed down that this is actually an American radio voice, not a podcast thing, just like whenever this has come up before? glad we got it sorted, lock thread
― stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, 22 February 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/ZVhvWog.png
― jaymc, Monday, 22 February 2021 01:20 (three years ago) link
xp dont make me take down the sign
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link
I would pontificate upon the voices featured in podcasts qua podcasts but pretty much all of the podcasts I listen to are history podcasts presented by what I can only assume are well-read grad students whose oratorical skills are best described as 'existent'.
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 February 2021 01:31 (three years ago) link
THE BAR IS GLASS
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 01:39 (three years ago) link
I talk sorta like this anyway. Never knew it until I was forced to watch video of myself teaching in grad school
― treeship., Monday, 22 February 2021 01:40 (three years ago) link
I am so not surprised that treeship sounds like this tbh
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 01:47 (three years ago) link
I was disappointed when I figured it out. I was hoping I sounded tough, streetwise, with just a hint of my jersey roots. But alas
― treeship., Monday, 22 February 2021 01:48 (three years ago) link
honestly, i probably sound more like a direct to consumer pharmaceutical ad than this post-Glass type
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 01:52 (three years ago) link
That’s a good one. Polished, elegant
― treeship., Monday, 22 February 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link
And authoritative
I could only dream of sounding like a pharma advertisement
Polished glass eh
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 01:54 (three years ago) link
the years of having to record voice over for radio spots where the time duration had to be between 28-30 seconds or 56-60 seconds and the script was dictated by the people in sales such that sometimes we really were having to do the equivalent of rattling off all the potential side effects in as tightly enunciated a fashion as possible
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 01:58 (three years ago) link
basically, having to sing Bach and other German composers in choir was really good practice for radio voice over stuff
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 02:00 (three years ago) link
Like the terms and conditions at the end of a financials radio ad, basically?
A skill in itself
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 02:02 (three years ago) link
yes ... or car sales
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 02:06 (three years ago) link
Auctioneer-style rapid monotone should be the new voice of the 21st century. Flat, transactional, and traveling at the speed of information, not intonation
― treeship., Monday, 22 February 2021 02:10 (three years ago) link
TH:
Narrator of a big budget investigative podcast pic.twitter.com/I25zlGzYSI — cancela lansbury (@gossipbabies) September 26, 2019
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Sunday, February 21, 2021 7:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
i knew what was coming and am still in tears laughing at this
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 February 2021 02:11 (three years ago) link
flatness ... damn ... that was actually one of my problems in doing radio, because I was in New England and regionally there is a much flatter tonality to those accents than I have/had, so I was never the "most requested" person because I didn't sound like a native.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 02:12 (three years ago) link
The chevy chase/dan ackroyd default pace
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 02:18 (three years ago) link
i actually used to edit dan ackroyd's voice overs for this series of radio promos the company I worked for produced. ... there was one month where he had a serious cold or allergies or something and it was really laborious
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 02:21 (three years ago) link
like, I don't know whether it's more unpleasant to have to listen to your own isolated slurpy mouth noises and sniffles while editing them all out ... or someone else's. The podcast people who leave in their slurpy mouth noises and sniffles and can't be bothered to edit them out ... this is like reason #1 I avoid podcasts.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 02:24 (three years ago) link
That’s all some ppl are listening for
― Canon in Deez (silby), Monday, 22 February 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link
hahahahah
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 02:26 (three years ago) link
Misophonia crew turn elsewhere this is the wet mouth sound hour starring Slurpy Ted and Debbie Drool
― Canon in Deez (silby), Monday, 22 February 2021 02:27 (three years ago) link
this week on the wet mouth sound hour .... balls .... gargling ... what does it sound like when balls are _actually_ gargled?
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 02:32 (three years ago) link
Supercut of all the sniffles edited out that season as a subscriber only treat
― scampsite (darraghmac), Monday, 22 February 2021 02:36 (three years ago) link
My partner does a podcast and spends a LOT of time editing each episode afterward to ensure sniffs/clicks/pops/esses/ums are all smoothed out. It baffles me when people leave that shit in or put up a show that sounds like it was recorded on a boombox from 1982.
Americans love B's show, for some reason they go nuts for drawly australian accents and copious swears.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 22 February 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link
currently imagining a gimlet/npr podcast hosted by a sports radio knucklehead like mike francesa
― tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Monday, 22 February 2021 03:14 (three years ago) link
lol
― call all destroyer, Monday, 22 February 2021 03:17 (three years ago) link
I edit a lot of the ums and awkward silences out of my podcast interviews, but not all of them — sometimes you want to preserve someone's thought-to-speech rhythm rather than doing the whole "get on with it" process. The thing I've realized by listening to almost 100 hours of myself talking to people is that I put a little extra sibilance in my esses, and I can't really get rid of it. I hope it's not too annoying, or at least less annoying than my conversational space-fillers ("yeah...yeah"), which I'm also editing out more often now.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 22 February 2021 03:44 (three years ago) link
I put a little extra sibilance in my esses, and I can't really get rid of it.
you actually can, and can make the edit sound natural, but it's a bit more time consuming and challenging than getting rid of slurps and sniffles, and maybe a little more challenging than a popped plosive, though, I can see why you would just leave it.
― sarahell, Monday, 22 February 2021 04:21 (three years ago) link
The solution I find is to place the mic directly inside the mouth, which is why they call the mouth nature's windscreen
― The Mandolinrainian (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 February 2021 04:44 (three years ago) link
I am so relieved to find this thread and to discover everyone else hates the faux-naif thing as much as I do.
Subgenres such as 'recap an entire tv series' can fit under one or more of these categories
Nothing annoys me more about this type of podcast than when guests come on who have never seen the show except for the one episode they will be recapping and they don't get it or ask a load of stupid questions. This was why I eventually stopped listening to the Gilmore Guys podcast. Well, that and the live episodes. I get that you have to make money, and having live episodes is a good way to do that, but do they have to be over an hour long? And not funny?
― trishyb, Monday, 22 February 2021 15:11 (three years ago) link
the only good podcast live episode was Hollywood Handbook at Comicon
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 22 February 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link
I'm less bothered by the "faux-naif thing" than by the "faux off-the-cuff thing", where the presenters' banter is supposed to sound loose and extemporised and yet somehow comes across over-polished and pre-scripted
The "relentlessly gormless airhead who previously knew absolutely nothing" shtick is played out but I think it (originally) came from a good place, as a reaction to the smuggy punditry of the time
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 22 February 2021 22:37 (three years ago) link
it can still be done well imo. like jad abumrad.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 February 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link