Why Were There So Many Songs About Boogying in the '70s?

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i guess kind of touched on in the boogie woogie (dance) post but

it does seem to me there was a fascination in the disco era w the aesthetics of the roaring 20s kinda right

50 year gap makes the 2020s to the 1970s [weebey gif]

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 19 February 2021 22:46 (three years ago) link

several links have in fact been posted, deej

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 19 February 2021 22:54 (three years ago) link

I always thought the ba-ba-ba-ba-baaa vocals in Chic's "Dance Dance Dance" were actually a callback to stuff like Andrews Sister, come to think of it.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 February 2021 22:58 (three years ago) link

yea i see the links... i feel like speakeasy / flapper vibes that were big in the 70s might have some loose spiritual connection to that time

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/df/bb/07/dfbb0765ac09fefab7def76c281f9872.jpg

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 19 February 2021 23:07 (three years ago) link

Moreso the disco industry was fascinated by the swing era, since that was the last big time for couples dancing

Josefa, Friday, 19 February 2021 23:16 (three years ago) link

Boogie with Canned Heat in '68 was boogie chooglie. Boogie with Stu in '75 was boogie woogie.

BrianB, Friday, 19 February 2021 23:24 (three years ago) link

Choogling (post-CCR) seems like how the hirsute denim-clad dudes might get down at a butt rock show in the '70s. Like, you would boogie to Chic, but you would choogle at a Brownsville Station show.

Bolan boogied AND choogled in the 70s fwiw.

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Friday, 19 February 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

He's a boogie bridger.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 19 February 2021 23:56 (three years ago) link

Also was a groover iirc

Josefa, Friday, 19 February 2021 23:57 (three years ago) link

was bowie's "let all the children boogie" a reference to john lee hooker's "boogie chillen"?

would a nit be nice? (NickB), Saturday, 20 February 2021 00:01 (three years ago) link

No one's mentioned Little Feat yet: "Triple Face Boogie" and "Old Folks Boogie."

clemenza, Saturday, 20 February 2021 00:31 (three years ago) link

one of my least favorite disco songs is "Boogie Woogie Dancin' Shoes" by Claudja Barry

eisimpleir (crüt), Saturday, 20 February 2021 09:33 (three years ago) link

(xp) I assume that's a different "Old Folks Boogie" from the 50s song covered by Beefheart?

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 February 2021 09:38 (three years ago) link

Not sure--I have the first (the medley version on Feets Don't Fail Me Now), not the second.

clemenza, Saturday, 20 February 2021 13:49 (three years ago) link

Hypotheses:

(1) When '70s rock bands use the term "boogie," the song form and rhythm will likely resemble historical (mostly black) forms of music known as "boogie,"* but in instrumentation and delivery will sound heavy metal (as the term "heavy metal" was being used then, e.g., as much Grand Funk as Sabbath). So a kind of dance metal for the greasers and grits - though T. Rex belong here as much as the Brownsville Stations and Foghats, but T. Rex's audience sociology is a bit different, as was the band's musical attack. (And T. Rex pose a problem for Phil and Scott's hard-rockin' shit chapter in that T. Rex clearly boogie but obv. aren't the anti-glam that Phil and Scott say the HRS bands are. Brownsville Station aren't particularly anti-glam either; they ref. T. Rex, cover "Sweet Jane.")

*I'd loosely call it a shuffle rhythm, in 4/4 but built on triple meter. John Lee Hooker would be a touchstone for these acts.

So of course the first track I listen to in order to test Hypothesis 1 is Thin Lizzy's "Boogie Woogie Dance" which it turns out does NOT use a boogie rhythm; in fact, other than being rock seems like an undercover musical experiment that doesn't remind me of much else. (Thin Lizzy clearly a subject for further research.)

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 20 February 2021 19:26 (three years ago) link

Fortunately Brownsville Station's "Martian Boogie" is right on the money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYgT1cfly8E

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 20 February 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link

(2) When disco or funk bands use the term "boogie" they're not referencing or sounding like a musical form. I'm gathering from the discussion here it's a more diffuse term, not just dancing but a way of being and living. I'm obviously not the person to try to explicate this.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 20 February 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link

Not '70s, but there's the use of "boogie" as a moniker in hip-hop, e.g., Boogie Down Productions, A Boogie Wit da Hoodie.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 20 February 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

Hello Frank! :)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 20 February 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link

Hi Tracer! Was just admiring the "I HOPE YOU LIKE PHISH AND TAYLOR SWIFT" doormat.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

You should look at the late 40s hillbilly boogie scene where every song is something boogie.

Stevolende, Saturday, 20 February 2021 21:52 (three years ago) link

Frank!! (Phil here.)

clemenza, Saturday, 20 February 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

Yes, I recognized your sobriquet, and the book you were referencing.

Stevolende is quite correct; there are gobs of '40s hillbilly boogies. Used to own an album by Arthur "Guitar Boogie" Smith but I never really followed up. Sort of a wind-it-up dance before the rage and optimism of rockabilly.

I'd say as many as not didn't use the triple beat so it swung less but stomped more.

Here's a nice one from the 13th century:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjaFyhkGpLE

But this isn't what the '70s boogie rockers were pulling from. They were going for a sloppy prole blues.

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 20 February 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link

weird that status quo never had a song about boogie afaict, cos in the uk at least they are boogie rock incarnate

would a nit be nice? (NickB), Saturday, 20 February 2021 23:19 (three years ago) link

Here's a '40s 'billy that foreshadows the wild ones of the '50s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzt1iA2D_Kg

Frank Kogan, Saturday, 20 February 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

Tube Steak Boogie is another rock boogie that doesn't really boogie.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 23:49 (three years ago) link

this thread fuckin whips ass. thank you all

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 21 February 2021 01:50 (three years ago) link

maybe my favourite of the boogie songs:

Don’t think I ever saw this video before, thanks!

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 February 2021 02:28 (three years ago) link

your jab of boogie for the day:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBVNOrV0Pr4

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 26 February 2021 12:16 (three years ago) link

The greatest TV series of all time opens up with the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYgKmOJT_gM;>death of Boogie</a>

octobeard, Friday, 26 February 2021 18:08 (three years ago) link


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