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It was fun. We didn't stay for fireworks. I spent half an hour searching for the veggie dogs that they theoretically have at US Cellular (according to their website). The El ride home wasn't as crowded as I feared. It was a really fast game (started at 7, we were home by 10). Oh yeah, and Sox won.

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Monday, 26 July 2004 19:46 (nineteen years ago) link

The White Sox come back on Saturday night against the Tigers was great. Hopefully they can right the ship against the two losses since Saturday tonight against the Twins.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 13:48 (nineteen years ago) link

So...................when's football season start?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 20:53 (nineteen years ago) link

[BBT, I left you a message on the Dutch Music Acts thread on ILM.]

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 21:02 (nineteen years ago) link

I was there today. Ugh. Anyway, NA, the veggie dogs are under the fan deck which is behind center field. That's all I have to say for now, because I heard enough bitching on the way home. I got all the frustration out of my system while waiting to leave the park. Jacque Jones turned to the crowd and held up three fingers at the end of the game. That had me fuming, but it was a nice cathartic focal point, 'cos I yelled at him. Not that he heard me or anything.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 22:47 (nineteen years ago) link

shingo got robbed, there's no way he would have lost that game without a botch like that.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 22:55 (nineteen years ago) link

WTF is up with Shingo's theme music? It's all like "Ching chong ching chong ching ching chong (gong crash!)" With a SLAMMIN' techno beat. Is he Japanese or something? I wasn't sure.

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh, don't get me started. A lot of the new introductions this year are absolute crap - stupid, embarrassing, grating, you name it. Much of the music is horrible. The last thing we need is PR that doesn't do much to dispel stereotypes about ignorant, tacky south siders. Jeezus, turn the volume down just a little.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:20 (nineteen years ago) link

um, maybe firing that hawk hawkins guy would be a good start

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Who is 'Hawk Hawkins'?

― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:40 (nineteen years ago) link

A crosstown two-headed monster who destroys LEADS and EARS with reckless impunity!

― mattbot (mattbot), Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:42 (nineteen years ago) link

youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu can PUT IT ON THE BOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD,

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― John (jdahlem), Thursday, 29 July 2004 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Kerry, supposedly Shingo is cool with his intro music and likes how it excites the fans.

Broheems and I were like "What's up with the gong?" when we first heard it.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 29 July 2004 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, the Shingo techno thing didn't grate on me as much as the bombast at the beginning of the games (although the gong sound after a K is kinda stupid). Also, those 'steam room' pictures are horrible.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 29 July 2004 17:11 (nineteen years ago) link

As a first-timer, I thought the steamy pics and the gongs were pretty fucking hilarious in a WTF? kinda way. And the crowd was seriously pumped for Shingo. I think that was the most excitement shown through the whole game.

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 July 2004 17:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Your 2004 White Sux : Willie Embarrass, Este-bad Lo-I-suck, Joe Cruddy, Juan Urealbad, Steamo Poo-rez, Damaso Farte, Cleft Palate, Jon Fatkins, Ross Choad, Jose No-talentin, Carl Everhurt ... [/troll]

― Kerry (dymaxia), Saturday, 31 July 2004 16:32 (nineteen years ago) link

TRADED: Lo-I-Suck for Jose Can't-Spare-Us

― gygax! (gygax!), Saturday, 31 July 2004 20:16 (nineteen years ago) link

sounds like a dumb trade by the yanks to me.

― John (jdahlem), Saturday, 31 July 2004 21:04 (nineteen years ago) link

contreras is at least capable of dominating, has dominated for long stretches, and seems to at least have a chance of turning it around and becoming a top of the rotation type of pitcher.

loaiza, meanwhile, is a shitty pitcher.

― John (jdahlem), Saturday, 31 July 2004 21:16 (nineteen years ago) link

That sounds about right, John. Someone on another board joked that maybe the 10,000 Loaiza bobbleheads were sent to New York, too.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Saturday, 31 July 2004 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah i don't know what cashman was thinking. it was a good salary dump? it will free up 8 mil next year, and as long as loaiza doesn't accept arbitration we'll get a draft pick or two...other than that, no positives at all.

though i did hear some guy on FSN saying this trade is a sign that the white sox are "waving the white flag in the AL central". uh...who pays these people?

― John (jdahlem), Saturday, 31 July 2004 23:10 (nineteen years ago) link

See "Trade Rumours" thread for my thoughts, ie, Loaiza is the shittier of the two only in the Bizarro world.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 12:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Right now, there's only one white flag in the AL Central, and it's got Royal blue trim on it.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 3 August 2004 12:32 (nineteen years ago) link

Twins 13-2 in their last 15 games, while the White Sox get blown out by one of the worst teams in the game...I think I hear the fat lady a-warmin' up. The Sox have NO shot at the AL Wild Card.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 5 August 2004 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link

White Sox reacquire Robbie Alomar from the D-backs in a very deja vu moment for them (see Everett, Carl). Well, at least Robbie can get on base, bunt and field pretty well. Doubt this'll make much an impact, but here's hoping...

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:39 (nineteen years ago) link

Sad.

What did they give up, Diaz and Anderson?

This team is a joke.

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe KW can trade Mike Sirotka for David Wells again, too.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:18 (nineteen years ago) link

Jose Paniagua is coming back, too.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Where's Minnie Minoso!?!?

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:47 (nineteen years ago) link

KW: 8/10/04
"I'm very excited about our latest signing!"

http://i.cnn.net/si/pr/video/sports/2003/01/15/sox_colon.jpg

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/graves/grave_lukeappling.jpg

― Gear! (Gear!), Thursday, 5 August 2004 18:52 (nineteen years ago) link

And JD, re Contreras "dominating for long stretches" ... post-Cuba? As Billy Martin asked of another pitcher's glory days, "Where, Hasbrouck Heights?"

I saw that game where Fox continually creamed themselves over Jose's family's arrival, and if the Mets had been smart enough not to swing when he couldn't find the fucking plate, he would've lost instead of "dominating."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Monetizing, the Score reports that Diaz may be called up by this weekend.

Buh-bye Schoney? Mike Jackson?

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Thursday, 5 August 2004 19:34 (nineteen years ago) link

During the baseball strike of the year of 1900 and 81, ESPN put on an oldtimers game in DC at RFK stadium. Luke Appling hit an HR!!! I think it was off of Gaylord Perry of all people.

Old boy was like 74 when he hit that one!

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 6 August 2004 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Looking it up...it was 1982 and it was off of Warren Spahn! I remember seeing the game as a kid, but Perry was actually still in the majors.

Old boy was 75 when he hit that jack!

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Friday, 6 August 2004 00:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a Nellie Fox bobblehead!

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 6 August 2004 00:19 (nineteen years ago) link

They're clearing space for Matt Stairs in Cooperstown!

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 6 August 2004 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I remain unconvinced that Robbie Alomar will cure what ails this team...sheesh.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 6 August 2004 02:56 (nineteen years ago) link

What ails this team is the sad fact that when they traded Loiaza he might have been their second best starter, plus that whole Magglio/Big Hurt on the DL business.

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Unless Robbie reverts to 1990s form and leads them to a faceoff with the crosstown rival Cubs!

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Buehrle & Garcia were the Sox's #1 and #2 starters when E-Lo was dealt. Garland and Loiaza battled it out for the 3 and 4 spot. Contreras is now probably the #3 spot considering Garland is now below .500 this year. The 5th spot probably will be given to Felix Diaz or Neal Cotts. Schoeneweis is back on the DL now and I doubt he'll ever start another game w/ the Sox.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:53 (nineteen years ago) link

Garcia, shit how could I forget?

― Gear! (Gear!), Friday, 6 August 2004 03:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Schoeneweis is back on the DL now and I doubt he'll ever start another game w/ the Sox.

Oh come on now, that's unfair. Just because the guy gave up 9 earned in 2 innings pitched to the KANSAS CITY ROYALS? Give the guy a break. That was a gutty performance, he toughed it out.

Fucking garbage, this team.

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 6 August 2004 04:02 (nineteen years ago) link

But seriously, I think Schoney was hurt; he dropped off so precipitously this year. The pattern is quite common with the Sox organization.

― Baked Bean Teeth (Baked Bean Teeth), Friday, 6 August 2004 04:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Sorry to sound so negative. I just really can't get over that game Wednesday - and I didn't even watch it! I went to see this film; and as I walked home, enjoying the night air and reflecting on what I had seen, I had this little tinge of anticipation. "Gee, I wonder how the Sox did." "can't wait to get home and check the box score." I mean, what a joke! Why even expend the mental energy caring about these sad-sacks. What was a greeted with? A starter that gives up 9 earned in 2, and an offense that manages TWO HITS. Against THE ROYALS.

That's the frickin' nadir. In 12+ years of following this team, THAT is the nadir. Just abject wretchedness.

― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 6 August 2004 04:34 (nineteen years ago) link

If they don't stop sucking soon, I'M gonna run on the field and punch someone.

― Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 6 August 2004 12:45 (nineteen years ago) link

Steven Goldman of BP:

"The Chicago White Sox are the chain restaurant of baseball. They are, by definition, white, the absence of color. Their ballpark does not signify architecturally. They have been overwhelmingly right-handed for years. They have not won a World Series since Woodrow Wilson was in the White House. They do not provide free breadsticks. Unlike the rest of us casual diners, Chicagoans have an alternative."

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:05 (nineteen years ago) link

They are, by definition, white, the absence of color.

I'm sure the non-white players on the team would be happy to read this.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sure the comment was based simply on the definition of the color and had no racial motivation behind it, and folks looking to stir up racially-motivated stuff regarding this comment should look somewhere else.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

suuuuure.

Also anyone plugging the Cubs as the alternative to the Sox because the Sox haven't won the WS since forever need to like, get real.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 9 August 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link

the "they've been overwhelmingly right-handed for years!" argument is pretty hilarious. Like someone will read that and slap their forehead and say "fuck's sake, he's right! Why, they have Corey Patterson on the north side!"

― Gear! (Gear!), Monday, 9 August 2004 19:09 (nineteen years ago) link

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