Why is there no thread for The Cure's Disintegration?

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This Entreat thing is fantastic!! Thanks ILM.

Bimble, Saturday, 3 November 2007 13:50 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Shoutout to the title track on this one.

Bimble, Sunday, 9 March 2008 09:42 (sixteen years ago) link

hey bimble what was the track list for that quiet Black Sabbath comp you mentioned way upthread? That sounds like a unique treat! : )

Drugs A. Money, Monday, 10 March 2008 20:46 (sixteen years ago) link

when's the deluxe edt. of this coming out?.

Creeztophair, Monday, 10 March 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

hey bimble what was the track list for that quiet Black Sabbath comp you mentioned way upthread? That sounds like a unique treat! : )

I made 'We Sail Through Endless Skies: The Quiet Black Sabbath Album', check it.

Tracklist:

1 Embryo (Master of Reality)
2 Supertzar (Sabotage)
3 Orchid (Master of Reality)
4 She's Gone (Technical Ecstasy)
5 Changes (Vol. 4)
6 FX (Vol. 4)
7 Planet Caravan (Paranoid)
8 Fluff (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath)
9 It's Alright (Technical Ecstasy)
10 Laguna Sunrise (Vol. 4)
11 Solitude (Master of Reality)

Z S, Monday, 10 March 2008 21:02 (sixteen years ago) link

good stuff!

Drugs A. Money, Monday, 10 March 2008 23:00 (sixteen years ago) link

After all these years it's Plainsong pour moi

wanko ergo sum, Monday, 10 March 2008 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

the opening chords of plainsong evoke some weird shit in me.

otm

latebloomer, Monday, 10 March 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link

last couple of shows I've seen, title track and Prayers for Rain just didn't hit me, whereas Plainsong and even, like, "Last Dance" and "Closedown" totally do. It sucks when you so want "prayers for raaaaaaaaaaaaaan" to just shatter your goth soul, and nothing happens.

wanko ergo sum, Monday, 10 March 2008 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link

uh, rain

wanko ergo sum, Monday, 10 March 2008 23:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Plaaaaaaaainsoooooooooong

Mark C, Monday, 10 March 2008 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link

What is this picture at the start of the thread?

baaderonixx, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 08:33 (sixteen years ago) link

lolll

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I was going to ask the same thing!

HI DERE, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:38 (sixteen years ago) link

i traded bob mould's 'workbook' to a guy in uni for this. i like workbook, but i won.

a later college roommate claimed that in 'prayers for rain' smith was actually singing 'president reagan'.

i'm not a big 'lullabye' fan, but the album is grebt and especially 'plainsong', of course.

mookieproof, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 23:54 (sixteen years ago) link

The picture at the start of the thread used to be the album cover (I swear!). Now I don't know what the hell it is!

Bimble, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:01 (sixteen years ago) link

it's better this way

Curt1s Stephens, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 00:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Crazy coincidence: I was listening to Disintegration this morning for the first time in years.

Ok, maybe not massively crazy.

Anyway, I wanted to confirm that a track on the new Guillemots album sounds like 'Pictures Of You' - at least its chords do. Not a great story. As you were, everyone.

Matthew H, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 12:28 (sixteen years ago) link

Read on a Cure blog:

Why did so many bands that made their careers in the 80's seem to peek at or around 1988-89? The Cure had Disintegration, New Order had Technique, Siouxsie had Peepshow, Depeche had Violator, etc... The next album after all of these were "good" and then the rest just...ok.

Were these not the pinnacle of these band's careers? Or were these just great albums to me because I was starting college, booze, and sex at that time?

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

the epitome of a "DUH" comment

HI DERE, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 17:52 (sixteen years ago) link

That's for sure!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Esp. with regards to Peepshow. I mean, I like that album a lot but compare it to Juju, Tinderbox, The Scream, Kalaidescope...

HI DERE, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

For those of us who are actually fans of Depeche Mode, we know that they had released several great records before "Violator", and also did release several after. Those who expect them to be a "rock" band may think otherwise though.

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

(And The Cure did most of their best work before "Disintegration" too - in fact 1980-85 mainly)

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 20:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Well apart from Peepshow, those are basically my favorite albums from these bands

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 12 March 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

I considered starting a "thread in which HOOS discovers the music of The Cure" but I am plenty self-indulgent already.

Just started hearing my first proper Cure albums this week. Porno didn't hit right away, was sort of coldly "impressive" but didn't kick me like I'd hoped it would. This on the other hand, Disintegration, is perfect and I wish I had discovered it when I was 15.

Sherlock HOOS's Baker Steen Motherfuckers (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 22 December 2008 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

"Head On The Door" is better IMO but also a completely different thing musically.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 22 December 2008 13:19 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't listened to Disintegration in years. Are all the synths still as badly dated sounding? I was wondering if maybe those tones have come full circle and aren't as cringe-worthy anymore.

Nate Carson, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link

I was actually thinking it sounded like the M83 album I've been listening to all year.

Sherlock HOOS's Baker Steen Motherfuckers (BIG HOOS aka the steendriver), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link

i've never found the synths dated or cringe inducing.

akm, Monday, 22 December 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

The synths on this album are fantastic (except for "Closedown").

BTW on this most recent tour, the Boston setlist opened with "Plainsong" even though they had no keyboardist and I thought it was the first time the live context had the full-on bombast found on the album.

^likes black girls (HI DERE), Monday, 22 December 2008 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm thinking the synths sounded dated to me in the mid 90s. So by now, they're probably just right.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 02:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Are all the synths still as badly dated sounding?

We're speaking 1989. All synths from 1989 sound dated. Actually to a much larger extent than synths from 1981.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 14:16 (fifteen years ago) link

In another few years 1989's synths will sound perfect and hip, Geir. All you have to do is keep breathing and it all comes 'round... :)

Another useless post, but: Great album.

staggerlee, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 16:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Welcome to the fold, Hoos!

Geese Is The Word (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Tuesday, 23 December 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

"We're speaking 1989. All synths from 1989 sound dated. Actually to a much larger extent than synths from 1981."

See, I completely agree with this statement.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link

In another few years 1989's synths will sound perfect and hip, Geir.

Badly sampled "authentic" instruments played on synths will never, ever sound hip again. Never!

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 23 December 2008 22:57 (fifteen years ago) link

i thought the picture at the top of this thread was originally the album cover? now it's something a lot... weirder

s1ocki, Wednesday, 24 December 2008 00:00 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Roger O'Donnell on the making of Disintegration

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 11:05 (fourteen years ago) link

Good lord, this is essential reading. Thanks!

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 16:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I peeked through that earlier, was great stuff! It doesn't surprise me in the least that they were basically a light-hearted bunch of gadabouts. Clay pigeon shooting picture is U+K

everybody hauritz (acoleuthic), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:07 (fourteen years ago) link

Ah ha! Now I know what Paul Cox the photographer looks like thanks to that! I rather enjoyed seeing "Photo by..." and having my own name be there on my Cure posters in high school.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link

This says a lot:

I remember very clearly laughing and joking and fooling around in the control room while Robert was singing Disintegration and then all of us trying to be serious when he came in to listen back, I don’t know how he put up with it really. It was never a serious atmosphere in the studio and when you think about the album and how dark it is I'm sure people think we were sitting around slitting our wrists with candles and chains hanging from the walls. In fact years later working with Ross Robinson, he actually thought thats how we should work and he had this presumed idea of what the Cure should act like. It was completely wrong and false and just felt fake like we were trying to be the Cure, we were the Cure ... He never really understood that but thats another story..

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:13 (fourteen years ago) link

basically a light-hearted bunch of gadabouts ...

... with a sub-schoolboy understanding of interpersonal relationships, by the sound of it. Either way: fascinating, fascinating reading. Thank you!

What do you want? This ain't an egg shop (grimly fiendish), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Very interesting stuff.

Enfonce bien tes ongles et tes doigts délicats dans la jungle de (Michael White), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link

Plainsong?

Yes a wonderful song especially if you are a keyboard player. I loved to play that song live incredible feeling starting the show just Boris and I.

awesome

bum-sniff deviant (cutty), Wednesday, 30 December 2009 17:23 (fourteen years ago) link

I keep laughing at how everyone has Land Rovers, Jeeps, and MG, but Robert was driving a weird Russian Lada 4x4.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 31 December 2009 00:43 (fourteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Has this been addressed yet?

The Cure - Disintegration... THE PUFF...

Deluxe Edition - Polydor/Universal

Date : 24th May 2010

Three-Disc Deluxe Edition Produced & Compiled by Robert Smith, Including a Remastered Version of the Original Album, plus Unreleased Songs, Demos, Out-takes and Live Performances.

The Cure’s eighth studio album, released in 1989, is the dark tour de force Disintegration.

Following on from 1987's outstanding Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me release, and spurred by the hits “Lullaby”, “Fascination Street“, “Lovesong” and “Pictures Of You”, the album quickly became the group’s most successful yet, with sales topping more than 3 million, as the band sold out stadiums and arenas around the world.

Polydor/Universal reissues this landmark album, remastering the original, adding a disc of unreleased out-takes and demos, plus a third disc that contains a live performance of the entire album recorded in 1989 over 3 nights at Wembley Arena, London, the European climax of the The Cure's global ‘Prayer Tour‘. This Deluxe Edition comes with a 20 page booklet containing previously unseen pictures and art, as well as lyrics and an in depth overview of the period by the band's founder Robert Smith.

Robert Smith compiled, produced, and supervised the mastering of this three-disc collection, which covers the evolution of Disintegration, from demos and rehearsals to studio and stage. The first disc contains newly remastered versions of the album’s original 12 tracks.

Gathering 20 unreleased tracks, the second disc trawls through Smith’s home recordings to find early instrumental demos of fan favourites “Pictures Of You”, “Prayers For Rain” and “Fascination Street.” The Cure can be heard rehearsing and arranging various instrumental versions, including ”Homesick”, “Closedown” and “The Same Deep Water As You”, as well as playing studio out-takes of several other tracks, including “Plainsong”. The disc also contains four unreleased songs: “Noheart”, “Esten”, “Delirious Night” and a cover of Judy Collins’ “Pirate Ships”, the latter a solo performance by Smith that was recorded for, but ultimately not included on, Rubáiyát, a 1990 album celebrating Elektra Records’ 40th anniversary.

For the final disc, Smith remixes and expands Entreat, a live album recorded in 1989 at Wembley Arena. Entreat Plus combines the original’s eight tracks, remixed with the four 'missing' songs to create a complete contemporary live version of Disintegration.

Comments Stuart Braithwaite of Mogwai: “Disintegration by The Cure is one of the greatest records of all time. It has the feel that only a tiny amount of albums have, that it exists completely in its own universe, immune to context or fashion. I literally cannot imagine the band members in a room playing these songs for the first time, its as if they've always been there. From stunning opener “Plainsong” through to “Untitled”, it is unrelentingly beautiful and achingly sad. Disintegration is a simply wonderful record.”

DISINTEGRATION: DELUXE EDITION

Disc One: Remastered Album

01: Plainsong

02: Pictures Of You

03: Closedown

04: Lovesong

05: Last Dance

06: Lullaby

07: Fascination Street

08: Prayers For Rain

09: The Same Deep Water As You

10: Disintegration

11: Homesick

12: Untitled

Disc Two: Rarities (1988 - 1989)

01: Prayers For Rain – RS Home Demo (Instrumental)

02: Pictures Of You – RS Home Demo (Instrumental)

03: Fascination Street – RS Home Demo (Instrumental)

04: Homesick – Band Rehearsal (Instrumental)

05: Fear Of Ghosts – Band Rehearsal (Instrumental)

06: Noheart – Band Rehearsal (Instrumental)*

07: Esten – Band Demo (Instrumental)*

08: Closedown – Band Demo (Instrumental)

09: Lovesong – Band Demo (Instrumental)

10: 2 Late (alternate version) – Band Demo (Instrumental)

11: The Same Deep Water As You – Band Demo (Instrumental)

12: Disintegration – Band Demo (Instrumental)

13: Untitled (alternate version) – Studio Rough (Instrumental)

14: Babble (alternate version) – Studio Rough (Instrumental)

15: Plainsong – Studio Rough (Guide Vocal)

16: Last Dance – Studio Rough (Guide Vocal)

17: Lullaby – Studio Rough (Guide Vocal)

18: Out Of Mind – Studio Rough (Guide Vocal)

19: Delirious Night – Rough Mix (Vocal)*

20: Pirate Ships – RS Solo, Rough Mix (Vocal)*

* Previously Unreleased Song

Disc Three: Entreat Plus

01: Plainsong*

02: Pictures Of You

03: Closedown

04: Lovesong*

05: Last Dance

06: Lullaby*

07: Fascination Street

08: Prayers For Rain

09: The Same Deep Water As You*

10: Disintegration

11: Homesick

12: Untitled

* Previously Unreleased Live Performance

Johnny Fever, Monday, 29 March 2010 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link

Very much talked about a lot on the Cure reissues thread. And I am waiting very (im)patiently for it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 29 March 2010 18:47 (fourteen years ago) link


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