What's the best Genesis album?

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That one that Geir Hongo likes.

M. V. (M.V.), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Wind & Wuthering, Trick of the Tale... I asked Genesis fans about them, and they all say they are not bad but pale in comparison to everything The Lamb and before...

W&W and Trick of the Tail are both pretty badass albums with few weak spots and are more 'economic' with regards to having none of Gabriel's penchant for running amuck lyrically (at the time), no impenetrable concepts and over-elaborate costumes...just solid writing and performances. Also, dare I say, Collins does a fantastic job as both drummer and vocalist.

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, dare I say, Collins does a fantastic job as both drummer and vocalist.

He usually does. And Genesis would have been a lasting quality band had he stuck to that, and kept himself away from involving too much in the songwriting.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 21 September 2006 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Gabriel sorely needed an editor in the early days. He got better.

Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 21 September 2006 03:17 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't know that I'm willing to call Trick of the Tail my fave Genesis LP, but "Robbery, Assault and Battery" is probably my favorite Genesis song from either of the Gabriel or Collins eras.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Thursday, 21 September 2006 06:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Gabriel sorely needed an editor in the early days.

Ambition and indulgence should never be edited. Anyway, Tony Banks was always there, and was just as much of the musical genius Gabriel was. He sadly has lost it more than Gabriel has though.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 21 September 2006 08:38 (seventeen years ago) link

Ambition and indulgence should never be edited.

Can't...quite...find...joke...

Everything Is Ill-Educated (noodle vague), Thursday, 21 September 2006 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link

"Calling All Stations" was a huge leap in the right direction from "We Can't Dance", and it might have been quite good with a decent vocalist.

Uh, Geir...pretty much anything would have been a huge leap in the right direction from "We Can't Dance".

And honestly, Ray "Stiltskin" Wilson was a better singer than Phil Collins. Then again, you could select anyone off the street and nine times out of ten, they'd be better than Phil Collins.

Eazy-Esteban Buttez (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 21 September 2006 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link

six years pass...

Can I just get a gut check here - do you people like Wind and Wuthering, and if so, why? Why do so many progheads love this incredibly boring album? Or am I just not listening close enough?

frogbs, Friday, 1 February 2013 17:10 (eleven years ago) link

spent like a month last year getting acquainted with duke, abacab and the self-titled record all of which are AWESOME

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link

Foxtrot.

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Friday, 1 February 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link

wind & wuthering is (a) mostly great (b) the perfect album to play on a cold dry windy morning

walloreinhart (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 1 February 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

Foxtrot

Jaap and roids (NickB), Friday, 1 February 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

trespass was killer when i heard it first, selling england by the pound was even greater especially that part in teh battle of epping forest where the music takes off, where it reaches this metaphysical plateau. this moment of bliss, which should last forever. but in the end nursery cryme is the one, i think. the lyric sheet with all those drawings. so english, so strange, so cruel.

miesepeter (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 1 February 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

Selling England by the Pound. Before that I only really love one song per album ("Stagnation," "The Musical Box," "Supper's Ready").

jim, Friday, 1 February 2013 22:08 (eleven years ago) link

spent like a month last year getting acquainted with duke, abacab and the self-titled record all of which are AWESOME

cosign, this was a month well-spent

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 2 February 2013 01:47 (eleven years ago) link

nine months pass...

I think I was very wrong about Wind & Wuthering, which is IMO not as good as Trick of the Tail but I don't find it boring or aimless any more.

frogbs, Tuesday, 19 November 2013 16:53 (ten years ago) link

duke btw

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 17:14 (ten years ago) link

Your Own Special Way is beyond pukey and the irredeemable ruination of that album imo

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 17:17 (ten years ago) link

W&W i mean. Still have a soft spot for Duke though, first Genesis record I bought

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 17:20 (ten years ago) link

That was Genesis in the era when they would regularly appear in lists of footballers' favourite music alongside the Police and jazz funk.

but my heart is full of woah (NickB), Tuesday, 19 November 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

Foxtrot > A Trick of the Tail > Duke > Selling England by the Pound > Nursery Cryme > Invisible Touch > And Then There Were Three > Wind & Wuthering > The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Abacab > Trespass > Genesis > We Can't Dance > Calling All Stations > From Genesis to Revelation

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:02 (six years ago) link

*cracks knuckles* ok here we go

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:16 (six years ago) link

abacab
wind & wuthering
the lamb lies down on broadway
duke
a trick of the tail
foxtrot
nursery cryme
genesis
selling england by the pound
and then there were three
invisible touch
trespass
we can't dance

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:18 (six years ago) link

i feel like i'm underrating selling/attwt/invisible touch at the end there but i basically love all of those records except trespass (which is fine) and we can't dance (which is half great half horrible)

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

wau @ Foxtrot so high.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:23 (six years ago) link

man this would be so difficult, though I'm pretty sure Selling England is #1 and Calling all Stations is at the end of the list

frogbs, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:27 (six years ago) link

The first live one. Docked one point for leaving off Supper's Ready.

dinnerboat, Friday, 7 July 2017 20:54 (six years ago) link

wau @ Foxtrot so high.

― the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, July 7, 2017 1:23 PM (thirty-three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it's all great. ppl who think "time table" is weak need to get right

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 July 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link

'Time Table' is one of my favourites.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:11 (six years ago) link

ecstatic you two have kissed and made up

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 7 July 2017 21:26 (six years ago) link

Man, the first part of 'Mad Man Moon' is so beautiful.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 7 July 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

first side of trick is the best shit on earth

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Friday, 7 July 2017 22:36 (six years ago) link

and then side two has the title track and the percussion-tastic 'Los Endos' ...

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Friday, 7 July 2017 22:59 (six years ago) link

Of the ones I listen to:
Lamb >> Selling England By the Pound > Nursery Cryme = Foxtrot

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:16 (six years ago) link

"home by the sea" is the fuckin best

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:24 (six years ago) link

The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
Selling England by the Pound
Foxtrot
Wind & Wuthering
A Trick of the Tail
Nursery Cryme
Abacab
and my familiarity with the albums gets hazy after that. I will listen to everything if there's a poll coming up.

jmm, Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:26 (six years ago) link

The Gabriel albums captured my heart at a formative age so I can't really be objective about them.

jmm, Saturday, 8 July 2017 01:29 (six years ago) link

The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is often cited as the pinnacle of early Genesis, but I'm not really convinced that it is. While it certainly contains more music than any other Genesis studio album, there's portions of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway that strike me as being a bit dull, and the band seem to be lacking in energy throughout - consequently, the whole thing ends up being a bit of a slog for me, even though the album has several highlights. I find the plot of the record to be a bit silly, too. A Trick of the Tail, although it captures a band in crisis due to their lead vocalist leaving, also captures a band that are re-energised and are into what they're doing.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 8 July 2017 03:16 (six years ago) link

First half of Lamb is great, second half more ... nebulous.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 8 July 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

i love basically every part of the lamb

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 July 2017 04:30 (six years ago) link

i'll acknowledge that the first half is basically perfect and that the second half is maybe a little more unsolid but that's as far as i'll go

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 July 2017 04:31 (six years ago) link

The plot's no sillier than Supper's Ready, Battle of Epping Forest, other tracks where Peter is the main lyricist. I love the music and so embrace the goofiness.

I do think including the prose version of the story was a bad idea though.

jmm, Saturday, 8 July 2017 04:59 (six years ago) link

I can ignore the lyrics on 'Supper's Ready' completely, but 'The Battle of Epping Forest', which has some nice musical parts, is far from my favourite Genesis epic.

The relative lack of energy (the title track, for example, has always felt like it needs to be a touch faster and more aggressive) and a little too much meandering padding are bigger issues for me on The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway than the lyrics, fwiw.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Saturday, 8 July 2017 12:21 (six years ago) link

i love basically every part of the lamb

^^^^

Will admit to not even knowing what the plot is, despite having listened to this many times. A road trip favourite for me.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Saturday, 8 July 2017 13:30 (six years ago) link

invisible touch is the best genesis album. not a single bad song on it.

Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 8 July 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

It's about Peter Gabriel wishing Bob Fosse had directed him on stage singing "On Broadway."

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 July 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

xpost

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 8 July 2017 13:31 (six years ago) link

alfred otm

ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 8 July 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link


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