Doctor Who: Classic or Dud?

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Any day now.

stilt in the wings (sic), Friday, 19 February 2021 12:34 (three years ago) link

(I’ve never seen any aspect of the Blessed story before; Troughton’s may be an exaggerated ‘80s convention anecdote - he doesn’t seem to have actually pitched doing the show in blackface and turban to the production team.)

stilt in the wings (sic), Friday, 19 February 2021 12:38 (three years ago) link

"It is FINALLY time for a (white guy to play a)Doctor Who of colour!"

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Friday, 19 February 2021 20:02 (three years ago) link

.@Paul_Burgin has spotted Peter Davison in the background as John Lennon performed 'Instant Karma' on Top of the Pops. pic.twitter.com/sN5ex9syaZ

— Jonny Morris (@jonnymorris1973) February 21, 2021

stilt in the wings (sic), Monday, 22 February 2021 13:07 (three years ago) link

The Tenth Doctor might have been oblivious to Martha but she had better luck with some of the others... pic.twitter.com/B4fWlZo6oX

— Doctor Who Minus Context (@WhoMinusContext) March 2, 2021

DOCTOR WHO: 7/11 miniseries now please. Agyeman can drive the TARDIS while they bicker.

grab bag cum trash bag (sic), Wednesday, 3 March 2021 07:32 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

At the risk of overselling things, I have been enjoying STRANDED Vols 1 and 2, two boxed sets from Big Finish. The premise is that the Eighth Doctor is stranded in 2020 for months with the TARDIS out of action and is stuck being landlord for a whole block of flats, the various residents of which all become companions as he slowly wrestles the TARDIS back to life. The stakes are usually refreshingly low and the characters and storylines pleasantly progressive (one new companion, and love interest for a long-term audio companion, is a trans woman; another story is about two gay men getting together while serving in UNIT in the 1970s). It's not world-shattering but overall it is rather good--certainly better than almost any other BF stuff I've tried to listen to.

Of course, being Big Finish, they have at least 2 more box sets in the series planned and so will presumably flog it to death, but in the meantime...

If everyone thinks I'm wrong I'll blame lowered expectations from the Chibnall crap years.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 19 March 2021 06:17 (three years ago) link

cool premise

armoured van, Holden (sic), Friday, 19 March 2021 07:08 (three years ago) link

That sounds really interesting. The only BF I've heard so far was Holy Terror, which was genuinely actually good, not just low-expectations-good.

Is McGann still a wee bit leaden?

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 19 March 2021 11:35 (three years ago) link

He's good in this, doing the Doctor is ultra distracted and driven mental by boredom

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 20 March 2021 00:25 (three years ago) link

This fun twitter thread with someone ranking every nu-Who story reminded me that we're only a few seasons to passing the total number of classic-era stories.

armoured van, Holden (sic), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 21:43 (three years ago) link

is COVID a thing in this story?

akm, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 22:30 (three years ago) link

Weirdly not.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 31 March 2021 23:30 (three years ago) link

This fun twitter thread with someone ranking every nu-Who story reminded me that we're only a few seasons to passing the total number of classic-era stories.

Great list! And excellent number 1 choice (i.e. same as mine). Love and Monsters is fine but pushing it for Top 10.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 31 March 2021 23:57 (three years ago) link

It's a lot more than fine and tbh I wouldn't have checked out the list without hearing that.

Gridlock at number 16, though...

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 1 April 2021 09:57 (three years ago) link

Nice thread. Interesting (to me at least) that there's nothing story arc/mythology heavy near the top.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 1 April 2021 10:38 (three years ago) link

Her #1 is the apex of the most complex story arc the series has ever done, and sets up threads that run for another two years tbf! Definitely leans toward stand-alone, though that might also be a function of what works best considered as individual units.

armoured van, Holden (sic), Thursday, 1 April 2021 11:08 (three years ago) link

I did think that but nothing else from the plot leading up to it is rated anywhere close and what they like about it is the resolution of the self-contained plot.

Well *I* know who he is (aldo), Thursday, 1 April 2021 12:32 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXswDBbPEOM

wasdnuos (abanana), Tuesday, 11 May 2021 21:55 (two years ago) link

4,068 pages of scripts, designs and other documents in the PDF materials on the S24 blu-ray.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 02:22 (two years ago) link

New from Big Finish: "Doctor Who: The Ninth Doctor Adventures - Three brand new adventures featuring Christopher Eccleston as the Ninth Doctor..." interesting!
"..written by Nicholas Briggs." oh, never mind

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 08:35 (two years ago) link

There really isn't enough appreciation for that link abanana posted, holy shit

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Tuesday, 18 May 2021 13:19 (two years ago) link

Fun and informative!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=901pWVPu2mQ

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 22 May 2021 09:56 (two years ago) link

Paul McGann has now been Doctor Who longer than anyone alive had been Doctor Who when he became Doctor Who.

— James Cooray Smith (@thejimsmith) May 27, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 27 May 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

I'd forgotten that Pertwee died 7 days before the movie was broadcast in the UK, but 6 days after it was shown in the US (and 8 days after Canada!)

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 27 May 2021 21:50 (two years ago) link

My one year old kept trying to steal a cup from another girl at a cafe today, and the girl’s mum turned out to be doctor who. Was super friendly and called my daughter “tiger”

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 28 May 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link

Haha, that is excellent.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 29 May 2021 01:06 (two years ago) link

'it's not actually part of Tom's first production season'

I don't understand this. Wouldn't they have to shoot his introductory scenes in his first season?

― remove butt (abanana), Friday, February 12, 2016 3:35 PM

Sometimes I think about how rarely production corresponded to transmission seasons in old Who. 1976-78 and 1987-89 are basically it:

Two stories (ten episodes) were held over from season 1 to season 2
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Two stories (five eps) were held over to season 3
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One story (four eps) was held over to season 4, and Troughton's first episode was the ninth ep of the season.
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(Out of nine stories made that production season, the first introduced the Cybermen, the fifth brought them back with a new design, and the last one brought them back with a new origin story. and 13 of the season's 43 episodes were taken up with two Dalek stories! Imagine the action figures you'd get these days out of that lot.)
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One story (four eps) was held over to season 5
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Two stories (ten eps) were held over to season 6
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Season 7 (four stories) was made and aired in one go, but the entire production team did fuck off permanently during the filming of the first serial, which had already changed partway through to become the only fully-shot-on-film story in the UK programme's history, both of which resulted in the four-parter taking eight weeks to shoot, instead of eight hours. Pertwee was the first classic Doctor to have his debut story made as the first production of his first season.
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Season 8 got made and aired all in one go! In order, too!
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One story (four eps) was held over from season 9 to season 10, and aired second in that season, over six months after it wrapped.
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One story (four eps) was held over to season 11
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One story (four eps) was held over to season 12 - this was Baker's debut. The other four stories aired in his first broadcast season were all made out of transmission order, even though they each flowed directly into the subsequent one. Six episodes were planned to be held over for season 13, but that one story was cut down to 4 eps, and then the tx date of S13 was brought up by three months, so they had to stay in production, and thus...
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Four stories (sixteen eps) were held over to season 13, which only had two stories (ten eps) actually made in its own production season.
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After this absolute chaos, Tom's final five seasons were all made and aired pretty much as written, with the exception of Douglas Adams' last serial getting abandoned 2/3 of the way through, at the end of S17.
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Having banked some chaos again, Davison shot the second and fourth of his serials (basically two rejected Tom scripts left in the pantry), went off and made a BBC sitcom for his day job (nb: he also had a side-job at the same time, as lead of an ITV sitcom), came back and shot his third, first, and then fifth-through-seventh serials for season 19.
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In season 20, he shot his second and first serials in a break after one of his sitcoms, then went off to do one of his sitcoms, then again came back and made the rest of the serials in order, before heading off to one or another of his sitcoms and, then, returning to Dr Who to make the 20th anniversary feature-length special.
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His final season then had Colin Baker's first four-parter at the end of it. Ten months later, Colin's first solo season turned up, reformatted into a 45-minute American-style show, and got the entire series cancelled. 18 months after public outcry, it returned, reformatted as a single 14-part 25-minute serial, so profoundly started without a plan that five different people wrote the last two episodes, with lawyers physically watching in meetings to make sure the final two didn't get to read all the other scripts. Then Colin was fired because the resulting show somehow turned out poorly? (He had gotten paid for the season that didn't exist in between, though.)
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In season 24, for the first time in 17 years and the second time in all 24, Sylvester's Doctor had his debut story aired be the first one he made.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 7 June 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link

7 doctor who books in the uk Kindle daily deal today

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kindle-Daily-Deals/b?ie=UTF8&node=5400977031

koogs, Monday, 14 June 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link

tip of the hat to sic's mammoth post there, it shouldn't pass unacknowledged!

assert (matttkkkk), Monday, 14 June 2021 04:05 (two years ago) link

(xpost) Got the Shearman. Thanks!

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 14 June 2021 12:29 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

This is the funniest thing l've read all week pic.twitter.com/qWKErl0ikn

— Stephen Brennan (@Stephen_NDBB) June 28, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 29 June 2021 08:33 (two years ago) link

thanks for the new dn

Yours in Sorrow, A Schoolboy: (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

i have a lot of questions but also lmao

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 8 July 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

setting a bar for the Morbius Doctors

UNIT surveillance photos from IE in The Invasion. Anyone recognise top row subjects? First 4 row 2 Derrick Sherwin? Next 3 presumably Murray Evans. Don't recognise first 4 row 3, next 3 are Edward Dentith. Bottom row Peter Bryant? Douglas Camfield? And Terrance! #DoctorWho pic.twitter.com/owE3K1i5lI

— graemeallan (@graemeallan) July 10, 2021

Thanks everyone for playing. The consensus is as shown. That's one for whoever's pulling the extras together for the eventual Invasion Blu-ray to verify..! 👍 https://t.co/W90Go71wPK pic.twitter.com/TDr3PtEgIQ

— graemeallan (@graemeallan) July 12, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 13 July 2021 10:01 (two years ago) link

Such a shame this episode is missing, you really want to be able to see this stuff. pic.twitter.com/zG4pa1MiEn

— Jonny Morris (@jonnymorris1973) July 26, 2021

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 04:08 (two years ago) link

Was talking to this piano player the other day who was totally into Dr. Who music, especially by that Australian composer… Dudley Simpson?

Two Severins Clash (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 07:30 (two years ago) link

Dudley was an occasional freelancer from 1964, but did nearly every story from early 1969 to early 1980 - so nearly 1/3 of Troughton, very nearly all of Pertwee, and nearly 6/7ths of Tom Baker. (JNT fired him and his various chamber groups in favor of various one-bloke-with-a-synth cheaper options more modern approaches.) He’s definitely the most-heard Who composer by both viewing figures and total minutes of output. And iirc maybe one or two stories, if that, exist as separate recordings?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 08:38 (two years ago) link

A Dutch version of the Paradise Tower Cleaners .. only much friendlier ! pic.twitter.com/qdP7s7IJ1I

— Sylvester McCoy (@4SylvesterMcCoy) July 27, 2021

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 27 July 2021 12:15 (two years ago) link

best ex-Doctor

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 04:34 (two years ago) link

is that sticker bragging about its ass

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Wednesday, 28 July 2021 04:37 (two years ago) link

If you've got the junk, it's got the trunk.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 28 July 2021 08:38 (two years ago) link

parjty in de fröönt
altijd in de bak

two months pass...

New blu-ray trailer, for Season 17:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fwv3-PGCw8o

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Sunday, 10 October 2021 05:04 (two years ago) link

three weeks pass...

K-9 co-creator (and Gromit writer) Bob Baker has popped his big clay clogs, leaving Chris Boucher as the only living ‘70s Who writer.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Friday, 5 November 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

The Season 17 Blu-Ray includes Douglas Adams' "Scriptwriter's Guide to Who Storylines" in PDF.

and 6,866 other pages of documents.

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

I saw this very odd profile of a 14-year-old Lalla Ward the other day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TczNORJu7Vk

JoeStork, Thursday, 11 November 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

She would have just quit school to be home-schooled is the angle, I suppose?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 12 November 2021 10:34 (two years ago) link

Lalla Ward went onto being Mrs Richard Dawkins didn't she?
I think she illustrated some of his work.
found that out a few years ago

Stevolende, Friday, 12 November 2021 11:55 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Next blu-ray trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dspgDvP7pA8

dark end of the st. maud (sic), Friday, 21 January 2022 06:59 (two years ago) link

Such a labor of love for that shit

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 21 January 2022 12:29 (two years ago) link


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