r.l. burnside r.i.p.

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Truly made my year. "See My Jumper" and watching people shimmy around and get live— whew

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 19 February 2021 02:44 (three years ago) link

the way he plays is so amazing, he's like a drummer, bassist and guitarist in one

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 February 2021 03:15 (three years ago) link

Great footage of a great musician

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 February 2021 05:51 (three years ago) link

30 miles east, I was just a suckling baby at the time.

This is what I hear when I close my eyes and think of the hill country.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 February 2021 06:30 (three years ago) link

who's the lester bangs looking dude?

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

Jim Dickinson I think...?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 February 2021 06:32 (three years ago) link

(this might have been around the time of Big Star's 3rd recording sessions)

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 February 2021 06:34 (three years ago) link

linking this for like-minded folx, Alan Lomax's footage of Otha Turner in 1978:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91_oMlVqKcQ

More documentary style with incidental music but "Shimmy She Wobble" drops in around 3:35.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 February 2021 06:47 (three years ago) link

Sorry that's 1971 not 1978^^^

Tav's comments on the 1974 footage:

Dancing at the Brotherhood Sportsman’s Lodge far out in the boondocks behind Como, Mississippi. There are dice tumbling in a leather dice horn, chicken frying in a big iron skillet, and girls turning tricks in the back room while hatchet-faced revelers sway to the drone of electric blues. Rural Burnside, the artist with the guitar, has just returned to the lodge from a week of sharecropping in the surrounding cotton fields. The busy life of a farm hand affords little time for laundering one’s pants.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 February 2021 07:08 (three years ago) link

My last post of the night~~

I am fairly certain this is footage from Othar Turner's 2003 funeral procession in Como proper (probably not terribly far from the 1974 juke joint in the revival post), led by Othar's 13-year-old granddaughter Sharde (who is awesome and still at it today with The Rising Stars Fife & Drum Band):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llXbIejneo0

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 19 February 2021 07:14 (three years ago) link

incredible. so much to love here. i had no idea he had been playing Goin' Down South so far back. crazy how few views it has.

― stirmonster, Friday, 19 February 2021 01:15 (twelve hours ago) link

If you haven't heard "First Recordings" which Fat Possum put out in 2002, they are George Mitchell's recordings from 1967/68 of Burnside and he was pretty much fully formed even at that point, already playing "Goin Down South" (in fact this vers might be my favorite).

They didn't come out at the time like some of Mitchell's other recordings from same trip (notably the Mississippi Fred McDowell & Johnny Woods record) in part maybe cuz Mississippi Fred told Mitchell not to, though there some dispute about that

Though the story goes that Mitchell was recording blues players and Othar Turner was like "you gotta see RL"

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 19 February 2021 14:22 (three years ago) link

Also I can't believe you guys haven't seen this footage before, cuz it's the internet I just assume everything has seen everything already

chr1sb3singer, Friday, 19 February 2021 14:24 (three years ago) link

in all fairness, a post labelled "Honky Tonk" on YouTube isn't the first thing to come up when searching Burnside's name— I wouldn't have found it had a friend of a friend not posted it.

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 19 February 2021 15:07 (three years ago) link

Yeah also it has under 600 views and was posted in October

Evan, Friday, 19 February 2021 15:23 (three years ago) link

a bunch of those views came yesterday, btw!

The return of our beloved potatoes (the table is the table), Friday, 19 February 2021 15:57 (three years ago) link

Nice that Tav posted this. Like chris, I also (mistakenly) assumed everybody who wanted to see this already had. This footage has circulated for decades. Glad it's on YT.

jaywbabcock, Friday, 19 February 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

Otha Turner’s blues fife playing granddaughter Sharde Thomas had pre- Covid kept her Grandfather Otha’s annual goat meat picnic event active in Mississippi . My wife and I went a few years back. Sharde & her snare drums playing band were great. The barbecue food offerings were tasty. But we got bored with many of the jam bands who also played. Sharde didn’t have money to hire and let play whoever offered.

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 February 2021 18:14 (three years ago) link

If you haven't heard "First Recordings" which Fat Possum put out in 2002,....

Thanks chr1sb3singer. i'm not sure how i missed that as i was all about Fat Possum in 2002. Maybe as it was initially CD only? I see he released it on his 1981 debut too.

stirmonster, Friday, 19 February 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link

Nice that Tav posted this. Like chris, I also (mistakenly) assumed everybody who wanted to see this already had. This footage has circulated for decades. Glad it's on YT.

― jaywbabcock, Friday, 19 February 2021 17:44 (one hour ago) link

Where was it circulated? This is making me feel a little like I used to when I was younger and had this conception that my hipness was measured by whether or not I knew everything there was to know. If you didn't know everything you felt like you knew nothing. Guy at Other Music drops a name, blank stare- "um, dude that was the friend of the bass player on the original Pastels cassette demos? Come on what are you even doing here?"

Evan, Friday, 19 February 2021 19:41 (three years ago) link

i remember when i saw him, he had great jokes - "waitress - bring me new beer - this one's got a hole in it!!"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 February 2021 20:00 (three years ago) link

yeah i saw him with his son (or grandson?) on drums 1997-ish — totally blazing. seemed like he was having a great time.

tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2021 20:15 (three years ago) link

Evan - Where was it circulated? Youtube, websites, film festivals, music festivals, excerpted in documentaries, etc. Like I said, glad that Tav has posted this on YT. Obviously better for more people to see it than for it to be some hidden or inaccessible thing!

jaywbabcock, Friday, 19 February 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

Cedric was the name of RL's grandson that drummed with him and Kenny

jaywbabcock, Friday, 19 February 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

Tav obv needs help in properly posting/labeling/SEOing this stuff so people can find it in searches.

jaywbabcock, Friday, 19 February 2021 20:30 (three years ago) link

Cool! It has an obscure footage vibe to it- would have been happenstance to have stumbled on it prior in my case.

Evan, Friday, 19 February 2021 20:31 (three years ago) link

yeah i saw him with his son (or grandson?) on drums 1997-ish — totally blazing. seemed like he was having a great time.

― tylerw, Friday, February 19, 2021 2:15 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm betting i saw this same tour, that year sounds about right

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 19 February 2021 20:43 (three years ago) link

Oh wow thanks for posting

pretty positive the white guy dancing is Randall Lyons, featured prominently in Bill Eggleston’s “Stranded in Canton”, which is on YouTube and extremely worth your time imho.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 19 February 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

(Bill shot bunch footage in Memphis, the Delta, and New Orleans with his ‘luded out hipster dirtbag friends in the 70s. Features Furry Lewis, gunplay from Waylon’s onetime road manager, and a real life circus geek).

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 19 February 2021 21:13 (three years ago) link

we went to Jr’s spot in Chulahoma, MS a couple of times in the mid 90s. Saw R.L. there. Spent one night in David Kimbrough’s trailer drinking moonshine and watching the sun come up. shit was wild and I’m bummed the memory is so fuzzy from altered state at the time and, well, time.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 19 February 2021 21:20 (three years ago) link

re: this comment under the video:

HellsDonutHouse
4 hours ago
I worked with Cheri at the archive that once repped these tapes, this blew my mind back then and remains one of the greatest things I've ever seen on videotape. I tried in vain to get some labels interested in releasing it but nobody ever bit, thank you so much for making it available here.

does anyone happen to know which archive this might be referring to?

donna rouge, Friday, 19 February 2021 22:24 (three years ago) link

think he's talking about Tav Falco's archive

tylerw, Friday, 19 February 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

some of the same crew here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3e-BNLYrMU

stirmonster, Friday, 19 February 2021 23:26 (three years ago) link

my all things Memphis music & film knower pal says he thinks it was likely Tav shooting on Eggleston’s camera, and that Tav and Randall had a “company” that shot concerts, etc called TeleVista (maybe mentioned in Gordon’s recent It Came From Memphis update); he thinks the comment re “archives” could be regarding the footage they would have shot.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 19 February 2021 23:33 (three years ago) link

lol so yes basically what tylerw said!

anyway, I have enjoyed these clips immensely. thanks for the thread bump.

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Saturday, 20 February 2021 02:52 (three years ago) link

If you haven't heard "First Recordings" which Fat Possum put out in 2002, they are George Mitchell's recordings from 1967/68 of Burnside and he was pretty much fully formed even at that point, already playing "Goin Down South" (in fact this vers might be my favorite).

Revisited this just now and it's still one of the greatest things ever imo.

pomenitul, Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:52 (three years ago) link

Agreed. Also, Tav Falco liked my comment on the video that started this revive.

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Sunday, 21 February 2021 21:02 (three years ago) link

If you haven't heard "First Recordings" which Fat Possum put out in 2002, they are George Mitchell's recordings from 1967/68 of Burnside and he was pretty much fully formed even at that point, already playing "Goin Down South" (in fact this vers might be my favorite).
Revisited this just now and it's still one of the greatest things ever imo.

― pomenitul, Sunday, 21 February 2021 17:52 (yesterday) link

Even compared to other Mitchell recordings from the era, which are plenty raw, the Burnside ones have an "otherness" to them, that droning tone of his voice matched with the guitar that makes it feel different from any others blues recordings of the time, the only thing that seems comparable are the Junior Kimbrough ones from 66 that also didn't get released until way later

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 22 February 2021 14:53 (three years ago) link

Well put, that’s precisely why I love them so much. Bits of it make me feel like I’m listening to, I dunno, Ali Farka Touré or even Hamza El Din. I haven’t heard the Kimbrough sessions, though, so thanks for the heads up.

pomenitul, Monday, 22 February 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link

The Kimbrough sessions Fat Possum did as a 10 inch ep, they are good, with a band in a studio, they are superficially more electric "blues" but it is still Kimbrough so still weird if not quite as free as his 90s material

Yeah Ali Farka Toure isn't far off or all those Tuareg bands, Group Inerane, Bombino, but there is a weird "keening" to Burnside that makes me think of Irish fiddle music or something

But yeah even if Mississippis Fred McDowell had told Mitchell to not release the Burnside recordings it does also seem pretty clear that RL was still way outside even marketing to hardcore blues collectors at the time

chr1sb3singer, Monday, 22 February 2021 15:39 (three years ago) link

the seven-disc george mitchell boxed set is a steal and packed with amazing sounds: https://store.fatpossum.com/products/the-george-mitchell-box-set

tylerw, Monday, 22 February 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link

I've shown students video of Groupe Inerane and Burnside performing "See My Jumper," it always blows their minds, the ways sounds and aural traditions survive and persist and travel back and forth between the continents

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Monday, 22 February 2021 16:23 (three years ago) link

All I know is the brilliantly sinister "Shuck Dub" clip from The Sopranos, which I've watched about a dozen times since this thread was revived. Will investigate other things mentioned here.

clemenza, Monday, 22 February 2021 17:40 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Something I've come to love even more than "Shuck Dub": "Goin' Down South," which is posted just above. I've got three of his CDs now (one I haven't listened to yet), and most of what I've heard is neither here nor there. But for those two songs alone, he occupies some tiny corner of my pantheon.

clemenza, Thursday, 4 August 2022 19:26 (one year ago) link

I see now that the clip above is not the one on First Recordings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCCDN7uWrZ0

clemenza, Thursday, 4 August 2022 19:29 (one year ago) link


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