De La Soul - Classic or Dud?

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"oh wow, 100 new answers about the great rap group de la soul, this should be fun!" i thought to myself before i actually started reading the posts in this thread

tiwa-nty one savage (voodoo chili), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:28 (three years ago) link

lol

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link

don't even

maf you one two (maffew12), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:41 (three years ago) link

def worst revive of the year so far

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link

i mean that TTG clip was dope but

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 18 February 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

thanks. i can finally say i was a part of something noetworthy.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 18 February 2021 22:29 (three years ago) link

that no one clowned candyman for being british tells me ILM has evolved <3

rob, Thursday, 18 February 2021 22:45 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

After DECADES of legal battles, De La Soul has reportedly regained ownership of their masters. 🙌🏾 https://t.co/UuBbz9MayQ pic.twitter.com/Dd9o3NlQ32

— Okayplayer (@okayplayer) August 9, 2021

city worker, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link

Dooooope

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link

Hopefully that'll bring down the prices of their albums - at least in the U.S. they're out-of-print and ridiculously expensive. (They seem more likely to be in-print and cheap in Europe, Australia and elsewhere outside of the U.S.)

birdistheword, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

hopefully they'll finally earn some money from those albums

bezos did the dub (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

Hah, of course, that too!

birdistheword, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:45 (two years ago) link

aw shit

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

I wonder if these will show up on Spotify soon, or are there still sample issues?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

Samples, or label rights?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link

Pretty sure there's a grandfather clause for samples, which is why Paul's Boutique still exists.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

Not a grandfather clause - it comes down to whether or not the language of the original license covered future technology or changes in the way music is eventually distributed. It's crazy, you're basically anticipating things you can't envision so you have to draft language that's broad enough to cover it (but not so broad that the licensor will balk at the agreement).

The NY Times did a lengthy write-up on De La Soul's situation in 2016:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/arts/music/de-la-soul-digital-albums.html

birdistheword, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:20 (two years ago) link

I wonder if these will show up on Spotify soon, or are there still sample issues?

the article says that label rights being sorted out at last means everything's coming to streaming & digital storefronts soon

ufo, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:29 (two years ago) link

xpost BBs belatedly cleared Paul's samples, iirc

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link

expected release date is november apparently

ufo, Tuesday, 10 August 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link

aaliyah and de la soul are certainly two of the more painful missing artists

Their legacies have definitely taken a hit by not being available on the source most people under 30 use to listen to music.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 11 August 2021 04:40 (two years ago) link

under 30s still love aaliyah ime

ufo, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 04:42 (two years ago) link

also last I checked, more specifically youtube is that source, and I'm sure their stuff reappears and disappears there often. I didn't check if it's real, but there's a full album upload for Aaliyah with 5M views

rob, Wednesday, 11 August 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

Saw these live on a UK tour in... 2018.. I think. midweek night, missing one person from the lineup (didn't even bother to check who it was, I'm a big fan,lol). Really naff gig, bad soundsystem didn't help. 50% of said gig was a random hype man shouting crass party hype stuff, making the audience crouch down and jump up to song cues while the rest of the band just chilled on stage. Felt like the we got the midweek in the boonies/'these rednecks will dance to a leaking tap' show. I was even more annoyed to find for same price tickets in London, a few days later, the whole lineup played with a full backing band, including brass.

Swanswans, Thursday, 12 August 2021 07:14 (two years ago) link

making the audience crouch down and jump up to song cues

is it possible that this was Dres from Black Sheep performing The Choice Is Yours?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 12 August 2021 08:10 (two years ago) link

Saw them at some festival, probably 15 years ago. I love their albums, but they sucked live. Maybe it was the setting, but they seemed bored and obviously did not want to be there.

Cow_Art, Thursday, 12 August 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link

I saw them at the Rooftop at Pier 17 in NYC in July 2019, and they were AWESOME. They were definitely having fun, and surprisingly energetic given how much older they are now. Anyway, they were probably in the right mood - they were in their hometown, I vaguely recall allusions to their struggles with Tommy Boy (like the PiL song goes, "anger is an energy"), and all the bullshit happening in the country was heavy on their minds, with Pos kneeling and leading the group in prayer at one point, basically asking for the strength to navigate these times without succumbing to hate. Speaking as an agnostic, even I was pretty moved by that.

birdistheword, Thursday, 12 August 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

eleven months pass...

sorry for the anti-news revive, but i'm just now finding out that past de la affiliate shortie no mass released their debut album (!??!?) last year. if you like vintage nyc indie boom bap, it's decent. the first voice you hear on the album is phife dawg! happy sad!

five months pass...

The catalog is hitting streaming services on March 3. Kinda feel like it's a bit too little too late in terms of salvaging/cementing their legacy — I mean, will a bunch of middle-aged dads gassing on about their genius entice or repel potential teenage listeners?

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 14:57 (one year ago) link

The first four albums at least are sublime.

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:01 (one year ago) link

The AOI albums rule

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:14 (one year ago) link

Much More came on an old mixtape I made that was in my car yesterday and it remains one of my fave DLS jams

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link

Maybe teenagers will/won't dig them but there's so much fun and so much going on in those records I don't see why not

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:16 (one year ago) link

They're not hard they're complicated

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:17 (one year ago) link

Fucking finally

The AOI albums rule

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown),

This. Especially the first one.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:31 (one year ago) link

not just streaming services - they weren't even available in the itunes store this whole time.

sault bae (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:32 (one year ago) link

y'know i was about to post on the "acts not on spotify" thread recently about my general despair over this - so hell yes to this news!

Much More came on an old mixtape I made that was in my car yesterday and it remains one of my fave DLS jams

― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Tuesday, January 3, 2023 7:16 AM

i have a "radio station" playlist that i keep and i try not to mess with local/offline files. went out of my way to put "4 more" on it. i liked it at the time, but that's kind of become the definition of a lost classic.

another one of their r+b hooks that i can't get enough of these days is "all good?" from the first aoi. featuring chaka, too.

c'mon 3 march!!!!

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:40 (one year ago) link

sorry, enthusiasm overload!

"much more" and "4 more" are two completely different songsa

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:41 (one year ago) link

In an impossibly excellent year for hip-hop, Buhloone Mindstate might be the best of 1993.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:42 (one year ago) link

i'd have to think about that, but i would say "i am i be" is definitely the best thing they ever did.

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

Buhloone is the one of theirs I still play the most.

Chris L, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:46 (one year ago) link

What a jam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odsPr0GzSLs

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 15:49 (one year ago) link

"stir my lime with light, drink it down slowly"

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link

mosaic thump is a top tier de la album and prob the one i listen to most.

havent we heard their stuff was gonna go on streaming many times before?

im a beacon of light (Spottie), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:23 (one year ago) link

It's been promised for a long time. Plus you may remember the time they sent out everything as low-bitrate mp3s.

Chris L, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:27 (one year ago) link

there's frankly not much bad de la, period

otm

i'd rather do music and chill tf out (Austin), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 16:35 (one year ago) link


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