Acts that are not on Spotify

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blimey - that's rather wonderful, thank you mares, very much appreciated.

wow, just seen that most of Henry Cow has appeared on Spotify since the last time I was looking for it. Definitely only had like 3 or 4 tracks up when i was using Spotify to fuel my radio show like 3 years ago. A Peel session and I think a track each from a couple of compilations.
NOw all the Studio stuff and Concerts at least.

Been thinking about Gorky's Zygotic Mynci recently and how it's a shame their earlier albums like Bwyd Time are pretty hard to find these days. Their last album Sleep/Holiday (which isn't that great, admittedly) isn't on Spotify either

lots of K-pop artists have disappeared:

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-56237626

the one I can never figure out - and this isn't limited to spotify - but why is Genesis's The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway not on some streaming services when all their other albums are. and it's not like this is some era that's not on, the albums on either side of it are available.

it's available on qobuz which is based in europe so i don't know if that makes a difference.

lots of K-pop artists have disappeared

well yeah, nothing new there

yeah, what's this thread even for?

No Ash Ra Tempel except a live album from 2000

Tag Team's label collapsed in the late '90s, so their entire catalog is unavailable on Spotify except for their one hit. I can imagine why but I wouldn't mind learning more about the reasons for that decision.

— Todd in the Shadows (@ShadowTodd) March 8, 2021

was surprised to see this during the all-star game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDAg3VkZPg8

https://www.savingcountrymusic.com/loretta-lynns-jack-white-produced-van-lear-rose-pulled/

Van Lear Rose album pulled from streaming.

^the fact it's OOP (Amazon Mktplce has 1 new copy offered for $902) and not available for download seems more notable than disappearing from streaming

There's a used copy at every Half-Price Books in the country, no reason to get FulePhished on Amazon.

And there's a ton on eBay for <$6 before shipping.

Guess I was misled about its value when I glanced @ Amazon

It is interesting that it has been scrubbed from a digital markets on top of being physically OOP.

I remember Lynn's son/road manager complaining in her American Masters ep that--despite it being her biggest-selling album--they didn't make alot of money off it, although it ultimately got her more and better live bookings.

The fucking DENTISTS. Seriously, Spotify? Yes, a few records are on there. But far from all.

Ulla's album from last year is now greyed out on UK Spotify :(

you can buy it for less than the price of a month's Spotify!

putting your releases on Spotify for a few months here and there might be a more practical use of the service than having everything up regularly

yeah I was gonna say it finally got reissued, see boomkat https://boomkat.com/products/tumbling-towards-a-wall

“finally” lol, well I was really waiting for it anyway

still no catalogue anita baker on us spotify.

the first pj harvey album has disappeared

Christ the soundtrack for Natural Born Killers is a right mess; literally half of it (Patti Smith, Cohen, Jane’s, Cowboy Junkies... ) is missing. Some kind of weird rights issue with the tracks that have dialogue over them perhaps.

The first Verve album has disappeared from streaming services this year.

How is it possible that Ray Charles' Hit the Road Jack is not available on US Spotify?? You'd think it would be the kind of song that's available on a dozen compilations.

a lot of Ray Charles is missing

I always run into the artist whose entire discography is available on Spotify, expect for the album I'm looking for. Marshall Crenshaw's debut for instance.

a lot of Ray Charles is missing

Ah yeah, I should have done a Ctrl-F on the thread before posting. I'm curious whether it's something in common with other ABC label artists or something specific to Ray Charles. I like to imagine there are some high-level negotiations going on, with the estate playing hardball, but the truth is no doubt more mundane.

I also have very little understanding of the rules of when things fall out of copyright. Is it related to when the artist died, or just the date of the recording?

All of Daniel Lopatin's Oneohtrix Point Never stuff is up, but not his Chuck Person ECCOjams.

Is it related to when the artist died, or just the date of the recording?

It's complicated and depends on many factors, including when the work was published, who owns the copyright (individual or corporate entity), etc.

I'm curious whether it's something in common with other ABC label artists or something specific to Ray Charles

It's specific to Ray Charles. When he signed with ABC, his deal gave him-among other things-ownership of his masters. What he was still alive, his people worked out a deal with Rhino for reissue campaign that stalled out after a wave or two of titles (a similar thing happened around the same time with Rhino and Curtis Mayfield & the Curtom catalogue). The Ray Charles Foundation is now working with Concord Records, but all they've put up on Spotify from that era is a single of "Georgia On My Mind" and a Modern Sounds In Country & Western twofer.

That's great detail - thank you.

Glad I could help! On closer inspection, I see also that Genius+Soul=Jazz (Charles's 1961 album on Impulse!) is also up.

Ray has a six disc collection due out in September on tangerine records that will be up on spotify in September
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/y8pntkgn98n9wb0el8ikn/_True-Genius_-Full-Tracklist.docx?dl=0&rlkey=sgfbi25ac7qwsgso1lyqur1yc

very, very unfortunately there is hardly any prime-era Olivia Newton-John on Spotify: yes, her soundtrack hits are there, but apart from those there's just two of her 70s albums and 1985's Soul Kiss.

(the weird thing is that it doesn't seem to be a label thing: it's all MCA. also the stuff that *is* there)

why is it unfortunate?

why are you sic?

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beastcrawl, where are you at? I'm seeing most of the 70s albums (but not all) here in the US. Plus we've got Physical.

b*r*eastcrawl is in the Netherlands.

albums I can see:
Have You Never Been Mellow (1975)
Making A Good Thing Better (1977)
Soul Kiss (1985)

missing, along with her other pre-Grease albums, are Totally Hot (1978) and Physical (1981) (“Physical”, the song, is there as part of some random movie’s soundtrack - same goes for “Twist of Fate”).
oh, and half of the Xanadu OS is greyed out, and that includes “Magic”.
(most of her more recent albums are missing as well, but I’m not familiar with those)

there is a compilation called Gold that has all of her hits, but the relevant tracks from those albums are all greyed out here as well

a live album that was the only available source for “A Little More Love” has disappeared after I played it the other week

I’m very upset, as you can understand

apologies for messing up your name!

That's unfortunate. It looks like all the studio albums starting in 1975 are still streaming here, including the Xanadu sdtrk, and what I assume is most or all of what's come after Soul Kiss.

BTW, Hit The Road Jack, along with a whole load of Ray Charles is now on US Spotify.

If you're curious, you can see which of any artist's albums are available in which countries here: https://everynoise.com/artistprofile.cgi?id=4BoRxUdrcgbbq1rxJvvhg9&hide=appears_on

thanx, guess I will have to move to Canada or the US then if I want to fully enjoy ONJ!

Ugh, so much Richard & Linda Thompson unavailable in the US.

ngl i always thought it was beastcrawl too. my b.

sidebar to the main topic here: why are there multiple listings for albums sometimes? like i can get that there's a separate listings for the regular version of an album and then the deluxe edition with all the bonus material. but sometimes i'll see an album just listed twice — the only real difference is that the release year is different (usually the original release and then whenever the remaster came out, i.e. 1972 and then 2006 or something). not really a discrepancy; just mildly confusing.

What that leads to when you're an obsessive 'likers' like me*: you look at the tracklisting, think 'oh, I haven't liked that song', like it, then find out that you'd liked the same song on a duplicate version of the album. That wouldn't be so bad, but then if you spot this and attempt to unlike it to avoid the song appearing twice in your Liked Songs, quite often BOTH versions then disappear from your Liked Songs. It sometimes knows when the track is a duplicate, but sometimes doesn't, perhaps down to whether the bits in the song file are identical. It's a little maddening not knowing how it will behave.

I guess this is tied up with the reason you sometimes get a smattering of songs that aren't grayed out on a complication: presumably Spotify is finding them on a different release that it does have the rights to in your country, and sort of substituting them in. Which I guess is the helpful side of this policy.

*liking every track I like with a view to eventually putting everything in Liked Songs into at least one playlist. I'm very close to having sorted 5,000 songs into their respective year-of-release playlist, for example