De La Soul - Classic or Dud?

The breadth of Black music is best described by contrasting two siblings who are both jazz musicians, I agree

if that's all you draw from a comparison of those two jazz musicians, then idk what to tell you. wynton is a big rap hater and jazz traditionalist, brandon was at one point big rap ally and collabo'd with public enemy, dj premier, etc etc.

"you're so fuckin smart I'm surprised you don't catch on"

i never said i was smart. youre just reading something into the way i type. its funny actually as i often read posts here from ppl in this forum and think they reek of pomposity, in-crowd smugness and self-satisfaction! so maybe, think of it as me just trying to fit in :)

argh, auto correct. *branford

i often read posts here from ppl in this forum and think they reek of pomposity, in-crowd smugness and self-satisfaction!

sounds like a plan.

*this forum should be 'this thread'

i'm not going to argue that ILX (and ILM in particular) can't be an insular community but the general assimilation of newcomers around here often starts from OH YEAH HERE'S MY OPINION and evolves into non-confrontational conversation; why not skip the line?

what a cocksnot.

crocker!

HOOOOOOOOLY... pic.twitter.com/5ovLNhePvC

— Dee Phunk (@DeePhunk) February 18, 2021

Teen Titans Go is really the best

they spelled "Joliceur" and "Posdnuos" correctly but couldn't get "Pasemaster," tsk

would've been very amused if they pulled back to reveal an animated prince paul watching this whole scene from a distance with a sour look on his face

is the evil music stealing alien named Srehthob Renraw?

Yobymmot

"what a cocksnot."

does your mum allow you to use the internet?

obviously, anal wart.

now i have a question for you:

how many times did the batmobile catch a flat?

how many feathers are on a perdew (?) chicken?

nada nunca.

"oh wow, 100 new answers about the great rap group de la soul, this should be fun!" i thought to myself before i actually started reading the posts in this thread

lol

don't even

def worst revive of the year so far

i mean that TTG clip was dope but

thanks. i can finally say i was a part of something noetworthy.

that no one clowned candyman for being british tells me ILM has evolved <3

After DECADES of legal battles, De La Soul has reportedly regained ownership of their masters. 🙌🏾 https://t.co/UuBbz9MayQ pic.twitter.com/Dd9o3NlQ32

— Okayplayer (@okayplayer) August 9, 2021

Dooooope

Hopefully that'll bring down the prices of their albums - at least in the U.S. they're out-of-print and ridiculously expensive. (They seem more likely to be in-print and cheap in Europe, Australia and elsewhere outside of the U.S.)

hopefully they'll finally earn some money from those albums

Hah, of course, that too!

aw shit

Nice

I wonder if these will show up on Spotify soon, or are there still sample issues?

Samples, or label rights?

Pretty sure there's a grandfather clause for samples, which is why Paul's Boutique still exists.

Not a grandfather clause - it comes down to whether or not the language of the original license covered future technology or changes in the way music is eventually distributed. It's crazy, you're basically anticipating things you can't envision so you have to draft language that's broad enough to cover it (but not so broad that the licensor will balk at the agreement).

The NY Times did a lengthy write-up on De La Soul's situation in 2016:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/arts/music/de-la-soul-digital-albums.html

I wonder if these will show up on Spotify soon, or are there still sample issues?

the article says that label rights being sorted out at last means everything's coming to streaming & digital storefronts soon

xpost BBs belatedly cleared Paul's samples, iirc

expected release date is november apparently

aaliyah and de la soul are certainly two of the more painful missing artists

Their legacies have definitely taken a hit by not being available on the source most people under 30 use to listen to music.

under 30s still love aaliyah ime

also last I checked, more specifically youtube is that source, and I'm sure their stuff reappears and disappears there often. I didn't check if it's real, but there's a full album upload for Aaliyah with 5M views

Saw these live on a UK tour in... 2018.. I think. midweek night, missing one person from the lineup (didn't even bother to check who it was, I'm a big fan,lol). Really naff gig, bad soundsystem didn't help. 50% of said gig was a random hype man shouting crass party hype stuff, making the audience crouch down and jump up to song cues while the rest of the band just chilled on stage. Felt like the we got the midweek in the boonies/'these rednecks will dance to a leaking tap' show. I was even more annoyed to find for same price tickets in London, a few days later, the whole lineup played with a full backing band, including brass.

making the audience crouch down and jump up to song cues

is it possible that this was Dres from Black Sheep performing The Choice Is Yours?

Saw them at some festival, probably 15 years ago. I love their albums, but they sucked live. Maybe it was the setting, but they seemed bored and obviously did not want to be there.

I saw them at the Rooftop at Pier 17 in NYC in July 2019, and they were AWESOME. They were definitely having fun, and surprisingly energetic given how much older they are now. Anyway, they were probably in the right mood - they were in their hometown, I vaguely recall allusions to their struggles with Tommy Boy (like the PiL song goes, "anger is an energy"), and all the bullshit happening in the country was heavy on their minds, with Pos kneeling and leading the group in prayer at one point, basically asking for the strength to navigate these times without succumbing to hate. Speaking as an agnostic, even I was pretty moved by that.

sorry for the anti-news revive, but i'm just now finding out that past de la affiliate shortie no mass released their debut album (!??!?) last year. if you like vintage nyc indie boom bap, it's decent. the first voice you hear on the album is phife dawg! happy sad!

The catalog is hitting streaming services on March 3. Kinda feel like it's a bit too little too late in terms of salvaging/cementing their legacy — I mean, will a bunch of middle-aged dads gassing on about their genius entice or repel potential teenage listeners?